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Got a story on about a local council which is going to shut all sorts of places - community centres, pools, librarys, chldren's centres etc to save £40M

There's a protest going on outside with loads of kids and people being angry .... council bloke tells reporter "they can run the services themselves if they're that important" ...

Did a google to see if I could see which council needs to make 40M cuts ... and google brings up a lot of results ... About 171,000 results

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So is it fair to cancel all the fun stuff that people use (Some blokes play squash there, some kids swim etc)? Or should we be cutting pensions and wages?

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Got a story on about a local council which is going to shut all sorts of places - community centres, pools, librarys, chldren's centres etc to save £40M

There's a protest going on outside with loads of kids and people being angry .... council bloke tells reporter "they can run the services themselves if they're that important" ...

Did a google to see if I could see which council needs to make 40M cuts ... and google brings up a lot of results ... About 171,000 results

:)

So is it fair to cancel all the fun stuff that people use (Some blokes play squash there, some kids swim etc)? Or should we be cutting pensions and wages?

Councils left to their own devices will shut everything down before they consider wage cuts or layoffs.

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Got a story on about a local council which is going to shut all sorts of places - community centres, pools, librarys, chldren's centres etc to save £40M

There's a protest going on outside with loads of kids and people being angry .... council bloke tells reporter "they can run the services themselves if they're that important" ...

Did a google to see if I could see which council needs to make 40M cuts ... and google brings up a lot of results ... About 171,000 results

:)

So is it fair to cancel all the fun stuff that people use (Some blokes play squash there, some kids swim etc)? Or should we be cutting pensions and wages?

Of course it's not fair.

40 million is a snip to the banks who we bailed out. It would mean nothing to slap a quick 40 million back tax on bonuses just to pay for things as we go along.

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Have to wait for the comprehensive spending review in the autumn. I don't think they can issue paper so if council tax capped could see some problems.

Also is IFRS coming in bringing PFI stuf on balance sheet?

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Got a story on about a local council which is going to shut all sorts of places - community centres, pools, librarys, chldren's centres etc to save £40M

There's a protest going on outside with loads of kids and people being angry .... council bloke tells reporter "they can run the services themselves if they're that important" ...

Did a google to see if I could see which council needs to make 40M cuts ... and google brings up a lot of results ... About 171,000 results

:)

So is it fair to cancel all the fun stuff that people use (Some blokes play squash there, some kids swim etc)? Or should we be cutting pensions and wages?

You do not want to be a local councilor when all the cuts start to bite.

Unlike Westminster politicians they have to meet their local electors every day on the street and all their meetings are open to the public

Top tip is to resign now.

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Of course it's not fair.

40 million is a snip to the banks who we bailed out. It would mean nothing to slap a quick 40 million back tax on bonuses just to pay for things as we go along.

I know, cut all public services, thats fair.

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So is it fair to cancel all the fun stuff that people use (Some blokes play squash there, some kids swim etc)? Or should we be cutting pensions and wages?

They will be terrified of taking on the workers and their pensions. Libraries, swiming pools etc are at the end of the day cheap to run campared to the vast armies of paper pushers and council benefits they are forking out.

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Well, as some Councils lost about 40 mill to Icelandic banks...

I would not believe Google anyhow... if you do a google for '******** lesbian sex' it comes back with about 7 billion hits but in reality the pages end once you get to half a billion. :unsure:

The mentality in Councils now appear to be cut anything and everythin other than jobs... so the swimming pool goes but the office workers do not... the sense of entitlement is truly staggering as basically they are saying they want to cut the services they do but they want to stay in work doing, um, presumably nothing other than suffering paper and taxing us.

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Ok, somewhat off-topic to this thread: council tax to pay for council services. No top-ups from central government. Local people can vote for whichever color council they want, as long as they then foot the bill.

Sounds so simple, so why doesn't it happen that way*?

* yes, I already know that the answer is "because it obfuscates responsibilities and means that no one gets the boot whenever there's a ba**s-up". Any better answers?

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Hmm if by magic, I could conjure a turnaround to the cuts, but people's homes would be worth 50% less the next day, what would people choose in all honesty?

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Hmm if by magic, I could conjure a turnaround to the cuts, but people's homes would be worth 50% less the next day, what would people choose in all honesty?

+1.

People complain about stuff but don't understand how it actually works.

If they did, they may direct their anger at someone else.

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+1.

People complain about stuff but don't understand how it actually works.

If they did, they may direct their anger at someone else.

I think the news was Blackburn and Darwen Council.

They are closing a leisure center and cutting child stuff and perhaps libraries etc.

The protesters are nuts. I can understand disapointment, but do you really NEED all that you had. It was the iceing on the cake and now someone has to pay, but no, I want it to stay and I really don't care that we can't afford it. The place is living beyond its means but public still just don't get that.

I think its a country wide problem. I want my stuff and I thought the cuts would just affect everyone else. Greedy people and NIMBYs.

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The kicker is as they cut services but keep council tax the same, the percentage of tax take that goes towards propping up the councils pension scheme rises.

The question will be, how long before a council does the maths and realises/admits that they are stuffed as tax collection, pensions and housing benefit costs are equivalent to 100% of the tax they expect to collect... that no-one paying council tax will receive anything for it.

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If people want stuff they should pay. The protesters don't need to protest, just write some cheques to keep it all open. Their choice.

Bored with people wanting stuff by right. Big mindset realignment on the way now.

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The kicker is as they cut services but keep council tax the same, the percentage of tax take that goes towards propping up the councils pension scheme rises.

The question will be, how long before a council does the maths and realises/admits that they are stuffed as tax collection, pensions and housing benefit costs are equivalent to 100% of the tax they expect to collect... that no-one paying council tax will receive anything for it.

They've already done the sums but won't give in until there's a mob outside their office with pitchforks.

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If people want stuff they should pay. The protesters don't need to protest, just write some cheques to keep it all open. Their choice.

Bored with people wanting stuff by right. Big mindset realignment on the way now.

Good idea. Maybe if council tax was cut to say 20% of current rates, then councils could charge for all but essential services. If you want to swim you pay, use libraries then pay. Local areas would soon find out what services the local inhabitants want to pay for and use.(tho' hopefully they should already know which services are most used!). Even, dare I say it, charge households for bin services . If you don't like it, take your refuse to the local collection site (got to be cheaper than all these bin lorries doing very little in any given day).

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oh well :ph34r: ****** em

this is what happens when you elect a socialist government to power, next next decade is left the face the consequences

I have sympathy for those on the receiving end, but sheeple need to understand, free money has it's drawbacks

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If people want stuff they should pay. The protesters don't need to protest, just write some cheques to keep it all open. Their choice.

Bored with people wanting stuff by right. Big mindset realignment on the way now.

We do pay, it`s called council tax, they may well close the libraries but you can bet they`ll be putting up the christmas f@ckin` lights again this year. Wasters.

Libraries IMO should be well down the list of things to be cut.

edit for speelink. should have spent more time in the library

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We do pay, it`s called council tax, they may well close the libraries but you can bet they`ll be putting up the christmas f@ckin` lights again this year. Wasters.

libreries IMO should be well down the list of things to be cut.

Yes these are the services we pay tax for.

I dont pay tax to bail out banks with.

I pay tax for schools, hospitals, leisure centres, social services and libraries.

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Of course it's not fair.

40 million is a snip to the banks who we bailed out. It would mean nothing to slap a quick 40 million back tax on bonuses just to pay for things as we go along.

The state is the banks. And the banks are the state. They need each other to maintain their theft.

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Yes these are the services we pay tax for.

I dont pay tax to bail out banks with.

I pay tax for schools, hospitals, leisure centres, social services and libraries.

...agreed ...but ...the council needs the money for pensions.... :rolleyes:

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In the States I believe they call this the 'Washington monument effect'.

In the face of cuts, councils squeal like bitches and claim they will have to cut something visible and valued immediately (like the lights on the Washington Monument).

Self serving b^stards, all.

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