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TO ALL THE CHILDREN WHO WERE BORN IN THE 1940s, 50s, and 60s. First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us. They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a tin, and didn't get tested for diabetes. Then after that trauma, our baby cots were covered with bright coloured lead-based paints. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking. As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a van - loose - was always great fun. We drank water from the garden hosepipe and NOT from a bottle. We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this. We ate cakes, white bread and real butter and drank pop with sugar in it, but we weren't overweight because...... WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!! We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on. No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down a hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem. We did not have Play stations, Nintendo's, X-Boxes or iPods. We did not have video games, multi channels on cable TV, video or DVD movies, surround sound, cell phones, text messaging, personal computers, Internet or Internet chat rooms..........WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them! We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents. We played with worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever. Made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not poke out any eyes. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them! Local teams had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that today. The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law! This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever! The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL! And if YOU are one of them! CONGRATULATIONS! You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as children, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good. While you are at it, forward it to your children so they will know how brave their parents were.

CTT ;)

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TO ALL THE CHILDREN WHO WERE BORN IN THE 1940s, 50s, and 60s. First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us. They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a tin, and didn't get tested for diabetes. Then after that trauma, our baby cots were covered with bright coloured lead-based paints. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking. As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a van - loose - was always great fun. We drank water from the garden hosepipe and NOT from a bottle. We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this. We ate cakes, white bread and real butter and drank pop with sugar in it, but we weren't overweight because...... WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!! We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on. No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down a hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem. We did not have Play stations, Nintendo's, X-Boxes or iPods. We did not have video games, multi channels on cable TV, video or DVD movies, surround sound, cell phones, text messaging, personal computers, Internet or Internet chat rooms..........WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them! We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents. We played with worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever. Made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not poke out any eyes. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them! Local teams had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that today. The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law! This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever! The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL! And if YOU are one of them! CONGRATULATIONS! You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as children, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good. While you are at it, forward it to your children so they will know how brave their parents were.

CTT ;)

Indeed. And the generation you are talking about also spawned the lawyers, politicians and business people responsible for trashing the childhood idyll you are talking about, because there's no money to be made out of such kids. The way of life you are talking about had to be shut down so that a different vision could be enacted, one in which money has to be spent to take children to theme parks, pay for their rides, and so on. Where adventure holidays are big business. Where you have to pay to get onto the beach. Where woodlands are closed off to kids. Where the roads are too dangerous because there are too many cars driven by the now grown-up kids you talk about, who have grown up to be selfish adults demanding the right to drive, and park, whenever and wherever they want.

So where did it go so wrong?

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Ignorance was bliss eh?

How many people do you know now from when you were under 12..? I'm guessing not a lot... well done for surviving till now :D

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Indeed. And the generation you are talking about also spawned the lawyers, politicians and business people responsible for trashing the childhood idyll you are talking about, because there's no money to be made out of such kids. The way of life you are talking about had to be shut down so that a different vision could be enacted, one in which money has to be spent to take children to theme parks, pay for their rides, and so on. Where adventure holidays are big business. Where you have to pay to get onto the beach. Where woodlands are closed off to kids. Where the roads are too dangerous because there are too many cars driven by the now grown-up kids you talk about, who have grown up to be selfish adults demanding the right to drive, and park, whenever and wherever they want.

So where did it go so wrong?

Lawyers, politicians and business people are responsible for parents not letting kids play out side? How so?

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School Attitudes 1977 vs. School 2007

Scenario 1: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.

1977 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up mates.

2007 - Police are called, Armed Response Unit arrives and arrests Johnny and Mark. Mobiles phones with evidence of fight are confiscated. Both are charged with assault, ASBOs are taken out and suspended even though Johnny started it. Diversionary conferences and parent meetings conducted. Mobile phone video shown on 6 internet sites.

Scenario 2: Jeffrey won't sit still in class, disrupts other students.

1977 - Jeffrey is sent to the principal's office and given 6 of the best. Returns to class, sits still and never disrupts the class again.

2007 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. Counselled to death. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADHD. School gets extra funding because Jeffrey has a disability. Jeffrey drops out of school.

Scenario 3: Billy breaks a window in his neighbour's car and his Dad gives him the slipper.

1977 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normally, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. Psychologist convinces Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mum has an affair with the psychologist. Psychologist gets a promotion.

Scenario: Mark brings cigarettes to school .

1977 - Mark shares a smoke with the school principal out on the smoking area.

2007 - Police are called and Mark is expelled from School for drug possession. His car is searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario: Mohammed fails GCSE English.

1977 - Mohammed retakes his exam, passes and goes to college.

2007 - Mohammed's cause is taken up by local human rights group. Newspaper articles appear nationally, insisting that making English a requirement in school is racist. Civil Liberties Association files class action lawsuit against state school system and his English teacher. English is banned from core curriculum. Mohammed is given his qualification anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers, puts them in a model plane paint bottle and blows up an anthill.

1977 - Ants die.

2007 - MI5 and police are called and Johnny is charged with perpetrating acts of terrorism. Teams investigate parents, siblings are removed from the home, computers are confiscated, and Johnny's dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly with American airlines ever again.

Scenario: Johnny falls during playtime and scrapes his knee. His teacher, Mary, finds him crying, and gives him a hug to comfort him.

1977 -Johnny soon feels better and goes back to playing.

2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces three years in prison. Johnny undergoes five years of therapy; becomes gay.

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Halcyon days indeed.

It was OK for your dad to hit you, and mum if he wanted, and couldn't think about getting a divorce.

Everyone knew that children were abused by family members or the local priest, but _nobody talked about it_.

If you got depressed you may as well have committed suicide because no-one wanted to know.

Your emotionally cauterized older family members that fought in the war and lost much of their families may have been uncontrollably full of rage, but never mind.

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School Attitudes 1977 vs. School 2007

Scenario 1: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.

1977 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up mates.

2007 - Police are called, Armed Response Unit arrives and arrests Johnny and Mark. Mobiles phones with evidence of fight are confiscated. Both are charged with assault, ASBOs are taken out and suspended even though Johnny started it. Diversionary conferences and parent meetings conducted. Mobile phone video shown on 6 internet sites.

Scenario 2: Jeffrey won't sit still in class, disrupts other students.

1977 - Jeffrey is sent to the principal's office and given 6 of the best. Returns to class, sits still and never disrupts the class again.

2007 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. Counselled to death. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADHD. School gets extra funding because Jeffrey has a disability. Jeffrey drops out of school.

Scenario 3: Billy breaks a window in his neighbour's car and his Dad gives him the slipper.

1977 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normally, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. Psychologist convinces Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mum has an affair with the psychologist. Psychologist gets a promotion.

Scenario: Mark brings cigarettes to school .

1977 - Mark shares a smoke with the school principal out on the smoking area.

2007 - Police are called and Mark is expelled from School for drug possession. His car is searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario: Mohammed fails GCSE English.

1977 - Mohammed retakes his exam, passes and goes to college.

2007 - Mohammed's cause is taken up by local human rights group. Newspaper articles appear nationally, insisting that making English a requirement in school is racist. Civil Liberties Association files class action lawsuit against state school system and his English teacher. English is banned from core curriculum. Mohammed is given his qualification anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers, puts them in a model plane paint bottle and blows up an anthill.

1977 - Ants die.

2007 - MI5 and police are called and Johnny is charged with perpetrating acts of terrorism. Teams investigate parents, siblings are removed from the home, computers are confiscated, and Johnny's dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly with American airlines ever again.

Scenario: Johnny falls during playtime and scrapes his knee. His teacher, Mary, finds him crying, and gives him a hug to comfort him.

1977 -Johnny soon feels better and goes back to playing.

2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces three years in prison. Johnny undergoes five years of therapy; becomes gay.

:(:(

Thanks for that.

There are some good things about 2007 you know.

1977. Johnny is roaming free in the back of his Dads Cortina when there is an accident. Johnny flies over the seats and out of the windscreen and is paralysed for life from the neck down.

2007. Johnny is in the back of his Dads Vectra when there is an accident. He is unhurt apart from cuts and seatbelt injuries due to the excellent seats, airbags and safe design of the car.

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:(:(

Thanks for that.

There are some good things about 2007 you know.

1977. Johnny is roaming free in the back of his Dads Cortina when there is an accident. Johnny flies over the seats and out of the windscreen and is paralysed for life from the neck down.

2007. Johnny is in the back of his Dads Vectra when there is an accident. He is unhurt apart from cuts and seatbelt injuries due to the excellent seats, airbags and safe design of the car.

Someone tells a joke.........

1977... people laugh and take it as such

2010.... Someone don`t geddit and becomes morbidly depressive

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Lawyers, politicians and business people are responsible for parents not letting kids play out side? How so?

Kids shouldn't be outside playing they might become victim to predatory paedophiles.

They're much safer at home in their bedrooms, on social networking sites, where there's no risk of meeting a paedophile.

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Someone tells a joke.........

1977... people laugh and take it as such

2010.... Someone don`t geddit and becomes morbidly depressive

:):rolleyes:

Ooh I feel slighted now, I'm not in your gang.

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:):rolleyes:

Ooh I feel slighted now, I'm not in your gang.

:P Snide..... Sticks and stones........................ :lol:

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Who are the generation who apparently lived in a Famous Five book blaming for the current state of affairs?

Aliens?

Thatcher/Bankers/Rich people/Immigrants. Pick your convenient scapgoat at random if you wish.

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Who are the generation who apparently lived in a Famous Five book blaming for the current state of affairs?

Aliens?

It`s all change now........... :lol:

Famous 5.jpg

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Thatcher/Bankers/Rich people/Immigrants. Pick your convenient scapgoat at random if you wish.

The Usual Suspects. Just pick up a Daily Mail to find out. No, wait, reading the Daily Hate gives you cancer. Or brain rot. Not sure which.

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The Usual Suspects. Just pick up a Daily Mail to find out. No, wait, reading the Daily Hate gives you cancer. Or brain rot. Not sure which.

No, it's OK provided you smear it with lycopene rich tomato sauce and blueberries before you start reading it.

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:(:(

Thanks for that.

There are some good things about 2007 you know.

1977. Johnny is roaming free in the back of his Dads Cortina when there is an accident. Johnny flies over the seats and out of the windscreen and is paralysed for life from the neck down.

2007. Johnny is in the back of his Dads Vectra when there is an accident. He is unhurt apart from cuts and seatbelt injuries due to the excellent seats, airbags and safe design of the car.

It's not all good....Johnny's ego takes a beating from being driven around in a Vectra ;)

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TO ALL THE CHILDREN WHO WERE BORN IN THE 1940s, 50s, and 60s, etc, etc.

Cars. In particular, the danger of being run over by them and the consequent need to be ferried around in them.

Cars have totally destroyed modern children's social life. The rest is all one big red herring.

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Cars. In particular, the danger of being run over by them and the consequent need to be ferried around in them.

Cars have totally destroyed modern children's social life. The rest is all one big red herring.

Couldn't agree more. Cars are about the most alienating thing a society can have. A small private moving prison cell.

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It's not all good....Johnny's ego takes a beating from being driven around in a Vectra ;)

Plus him and his mates shouldn't have stolen it in the first place..

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Halcyon days indeed.

It was OK for your dad to hit you, and mum if he wanted, and couldn't think about getting a divorce.

snip

parrently, the phrase " rule of thumb" comes from court guidance on wife beaters....if the stick used was thicker than a thumb, then the man would be guilty of assault, if not, then the wife could make no complaint.

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It was OK for your dad to hit you, and mum if he wanted, and couldn't think about getting a divorce.

Nope

Everyone knew that children were abused by family members or the local priest, but _nobody talked about it_.

Nope

If you got depressed you may as well have committed suicide because no-one wanted to know.

Nope

Your emotionally cauterized older family members that fought in the war and lost much of their families may have been uncontrollably full of rage, but never mind.

Nope

What you describe sounds like the plot for a good episode of "The Wednesday Play", in grainy B&W and directed by Ken Loach but nothing like the childhood I had.

But what do I know, I was only there. :rolleyes:

Who are the generation who apparently lived in a Famous Five book

If you can imagine the Famous Five living on a council estate, you're not that far out. :)

Sorry you guys all missed out but c'est la vie and all that.

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