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Just spent a weekend at a Barbie just outside London and I'm warming up after the 210 mile ride back.

The attendance was expected i.e. 110 people say they'd come about 30 really did which is normal.

However out of those 30:

1 was a long term unemployed (20 months now used to earn 67K)

3 Were grads from Oxford + Cambs + reading who had been job seeking for more than a year.

9 Were given notice of redundancy

6 of these people were to next week attend interviews for their own jobs (only 1 of these were public sector)

2 Were leaving the UK to go work in Japan (not as teachers) and Korea (they were specialist engineers)

While the remaining lots had survived 4 rounds of redundancy AND paycuts.

Bloody hell it feels pretty apocalyptic if you ask me.

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Out of 30 of my friends.

- 6 are teachers and so are one a pay freeze for the next two years

- 1 is long term unemployed and training for a new job as an energy efficiency expert for business.

- 1 who lives in the states was recently made unemployed.

That's about it, the rest are happily employed and not aware of any immediate threat.

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Out of 30 of my friends.

- 6 are teachers and so are one a pay freeze for the next two years

- 1 is long term unemployed and training for a new job as an energy efficiency expert for business.

- 1 who lives in the states was recently made unemployed.

That's about it, the rest are happily employed and not aware of any immediate threat.

I don't have any friends.

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(thought doh won't let me change it!)

Just spent a weekend at a Barbie just outside London and I'm warming up after the 210 mile ride back.

The attendance was expected i.e. 110 people say they'd come about 30 really did which is normal.

However out of those 30:

1 was a long term unemployed (20 months now used to earn 67K)

3 Were grads from Oxford + Cambs + reading who had been job seeking for more than a year.

9 Were given notice of redundancy

6 of these people were to next week attend interviews for their own jobs (only 1 of these were public sector)

2 Were leaving the UK to go work in Japan (not as teachers) and Korea (they were specialist engineers)

While the remaining lots had survived 4 rounds of redundancy AND paycuts.

Bloody hell it feels pretty apocalyptic if you ask me.

and how did you actually obtain all this information? Were you nominated as the group shoulder to cry on?

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and how did you actually obtain all this information? Were you nominated as the group shoulder to cry on?

Not difficult really. People seem to identify themselves so much by where they work or what they do. I'm prepared to bet that employment (or the lack of it) was probably one of the first things discussed.

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I wouldn't be concerning myself with such nonsense on a night out. Can't believe you kept a count, what a boring thing to do at a barbie. You must have been a real fun bag that night. Look mate enjoy the free time while you have it, do some cash work for beer money and have a laugh etc.

People still need things doing and will still pay money for it. Clean windows, gardening, general diy etc. Ii drink with a chap who is a window cleaner, makes £500 clear every week.

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Out of my closest UK mates,

one is unemployed in Europe with his kids (sucking their benefits system - nice counterexample!)

one emigrated to the USA to find work

one lost his job and took a year to find one whilst the gvt paid his mortgage

one just lost his job, found another one quickly

one is doing ok, but i works in consultancy to public sector and I think doesn't see the danger

one is a copper who is going to leave the country as soon as his 25 is up

and I'm overseas because I think the UK is a basket case

and they are all well educated, lower /middle middle class. What would have been the backbone of the economy in previous years. All except the consultant are slowly realising how screwed the debt situation is. What scares me the most, though, is that in all of the cases where they are still married, the wives/partners refuse to economise AT ALL. The one who was unemployed was told that he was of little value to her whilst he had no job.............

Terrible

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We're hiring but struggling to fill the vacancies.

Not a very helpful comment is it?

I'm sure that anybody engaged in the business of shutting off exploding oil rigs is "hiring but struggling to fill the vacancies" at the moment, but it doesn't add much to the discussion on the general job position, does it.

tim

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What sort of jobs?

Some IT stuff in West London, Duke has posted before asking people to PM him.

And I've just spotted he has it in his sig!

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Not a very helpful comment is it?

I'm sure that anybody engaged in the business of shutting off exploding oil rigs is "hiring but struggling to fill the vacancies" at the moment, but it doesn't add much to the discussion on the general job position, does it.

tim

It is helpful if you or someone you know is looking for a job.

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I went to a recruitment fair at Oxford last month. Some of the arts grads seemed a bit desperate "blimey, someone's hiring are they?", but I'm not sure whether that was either anything new or indicative of much. I last went 5 years ago and can't say it was that different then.

When I left in 1997 there were quite a few who had no idea what they were going to do then.

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Out of 30 of my friends.

- 6 are teachers and so are one a pay freeze for the next two years

- 1 is long term unemployed and training for a new job as an energy efficiency expert for business.

- 1 who lives in the states was recently made unemployed.

That's about it, the rest are happily employed and not aware of any immediate threat.

Most people in work are not aware of any danger and all i ask think there is NO CHANCE that house prices will fall. The first dip with media frenzy and to those employed has had the effect of a "cry wolf", now MSM are back on the positive no one will believe any danger until it hits them. For now anyway.

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What scares me the most, though, is that in all of the cases where they are still married, the wives/partners refuse to economise AT ALL. The one who was unemployed was told that he was of little value to her whilst he had no job.............

Blimey. Hope there's no kids. I'd be out of there pdq.

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I went to a recruitment fair at Oxford last month. Some of the arts grads seemed a bit desperate "blimey, someone's hiring are they?", but I'm not sure whether that was either anything new or indicative of much. I last went 5 years ago and can't say it was that different then.

When I left in 1997 there were quite a few who had no idea what they were going to do then.

have they thought about becoming....artists?

sad how they are at the same stage in life as someone whos just left highschool (ie don't know what they are going to do for work) but with a massive debt burden

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I would guess that people who actually turned up:

1. Had time on their hands.

2. Were trying to 'network'.

So it was probably top of mind for most and they couldn't help talking about it - indeed it was their prime raison d'etre. And as they were all super interested in this topic (because they were all there for the same reason), it turned into a generalised discussion....especially when they all realised that no one was there for recruiting purposes.

Its the level and quantum of the detail which strikes me as odd, almost like he/she was taking notes

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Its the level and quantum of the detail which strikes me as odd, almost like he/she was taking notes

I wasn't taking notes, it just came through in normal chat..

The guy with the really rotten bike, I remember somebody asking him wow that bike is getting on isn;t it? (it was 6 years old but looked closer to 40 years old) you should really get a new one... nah can't been made redundant etc.

Or oh yeah you're the accountant aren't you? Nah not anymore, so what do you do? etc

It was less than 24 hours ago remembering conversations just occurs normally to me, I can remember things back to about 1992 about what things people said to me.

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I would guess that people who actually turned up:

1. Had time on their hands.

2. Were trying to 'network'.

Not really, as most people turned up about 7pm Friday night, though Saturday morning when everybody was recovering from Friday was a subdued period until everybody sobered up enough to go on a massive ride out on Saturday twice before doing the same again.

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