crash2006 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Over the past month the coalition government have been playing straight onto the hands of labour, attacking the very core of its supporters the average public from CGT to vat increase from unemployment to housing benefits. Yet the true criminal the bankers, some politicians, property developers and the rich have all be let off, the ones that made the money are the ones that are winning again, the public will start to see through this and will most likely start to vote labour again, as it seems this coalition is hell bend on attacking the weak and poor in our society yet allowing the rich and property developers to roam free with their profits. Do I see the cons being voted in again nope, i really think they have sealed their own death as a party, both the lib dems and cons have lied to the public in such a short period, showing their true colours, screw the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbeard Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Over the past month the coalition government have been playing straight onto the hands of labour, attacking the very core of its supporters the average public from CGT to vat increase from unemployment to housing benefits. So given the massive deficit, what would you have them do if not increase taxes and cut benefits? Even if they took all the assets of every politician and banker in the land, it wouldn't come close to £150 billioin PER ANNUM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Parties always attack their core, because they have no where else to go. Maybe a few thousand liebourites go BNP, a few thousand Tories UKIP, but thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 So given the massive deficit, what would you have them do if not increase taxes and cut benefits? Even if they took all the assets of every politician and banker in the land, it wouldn't come close to £150 billioin PER ANNUM. Well they could have taper the cgt at 50% could have increased tax from banks, tax btl landlord more etc.. atleast give them their share of profit loss. Iam telling you they will not win they are barking up teh wrong tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Goldfish Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 as long as they keep IRs low most of the overleveraged majority will remain happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 as long as they keep IRs low most of the overleveraged majority will remain happy Budget 2010: Second home owners have generous tax breaks reinstated The tax advantages on furnished holiday lets were abolished in April by the previous Government, but George Osborne announced they have been reinstated. slap in the face.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/7847641/Budget-2010-Second-home-owners-have-generous-tax-breaks-reinstated.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Goldfish Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 slap in the face. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/7847641/Budget-2010-Second-home-owners-have-generous-tax-breaks-reinstated.html this can't be happening :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashConnoisseur Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 people might vote labour again That's the worry. Osborne's budget is likely to put the economy into a deflationary death spiral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 That's the worry. Osborne's budget is likely to put the economy into a deflationary death spiral. Typical upper middle class thinking, bit of a cold bath doesnt hurt anyone, but if they have to dip into the water they'll alter the temp of the bath. ie they never would take their own medicine and if they did it would be for a short time and say yes its wrong i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 as long as they keep IRs low most of the overleveraged majority will remain happy the ones that have jobs and dont ask for benifits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 You're seeing what you want to see, Labour are against the bank levy, Darling and Brown spent the best part of the campaign defending The City like good little puppets in search of directorships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Goldfish Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 the ones that have jobs and dont ask for benifits. exactly, far from us all being in it together, a sizeable minority will suffer horribly, whilst the majority will be better of than ever through saving masses on the tiny IRs on their huge debts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headmelter Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 slap in the face. http://www.telegraph...reinstated.html Don't ya just love the tories. . . . . . . We're all in it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubai Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Libdem/con............. I thought they were better known as the ConDem party......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Libdem/con............. I thought they were better known as the ConDem party......... Peers help themselves to £300 a day tax-free http://www.timesonli...icle2852992.ece </H1> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 You think the county can afford to continue Mc******s pet project of buying up the votes of middle Britain with their own money? Somebody had to grab hold of the wheel of misfortune and stop it dead. Enough of your jibber jabber. :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scepticus Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Over the past month the coalition government have been playing straight onto the hands of labour, attacking the very core of its supporters the average public from CGT to vat increase from unemployment to housing benefits. Yet the true criminal the bankers, some politicians, property developers and the rich have all be let off, the ones that made the money are the ones that are winning again, the public will start to see through this and will most likely start to vote labour again, as it seems this coalition is hell bend on attacking the weak and poor in our society yet allowing the rich and property developers to roam free with their profits. Do I see the cons being voted in again nope, i really think they have sealed their own death as a party, both the lib dems and cons have lied to the public in such a short period, showing their true colours, screw the public. libdems are now on 18% support and have already lost a lot of members to labour. the reality is that while the majority (including me) support deficit reduction and the elimination of non jobs etc, thats as far as they go - they don't support lassyfare market fundamentalism and they never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 You think the county can afford to continue Mc******s pet project of buying up the votes of middle Britain with their own money? Somebody had to grab hold of the wheel of misfortune and stop it dead. Enough of your jibber jabber. well if the cuts were hittying everyone evenly then fine , but the majority seem to be hitting the poor more than the wealthy, "Peers help themselves to £300 a day tax-free" do they really need that much? they already hold stolen land from the people. Hundreds of peers are exploiting a loophole on expenses to give themselves a tax free income of up to £48,000 a year, The Times has found No wonder they all want one, and more tax loop holes for their emipre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 libdems are now on 18% support and have already lost a lot of members to labour. the reality is that while the majority (including me) support deficit reduction and the elimination of non jobs etc, thats as far as they go - they don't support lassyfare market fundamentalism and they never will. I support the deficit reduction, but they have gone back on a few bits of policies, and seem to attack the poor more, yet they arnt supporting the poor with the most basic needs housing in a productive and affordable way, ie council owned homes. the money is being siphon out of the tax payer into a relative few property magnate and old school aristocrats. This is a all bull, just typical misdirection like a magician does to its viewers, if they want the economy to grown the cost of land will have to drop, cost of property will have to drop otherwise we can no longer compete with eastern countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 well if the cuts were hittying everyone evenly then fine , but the majority seem to be hitting the poor more than the wealthy, "Peers help themselves to £300 a day tax-free" do they really need that much? they already hold stolen land from the people. Why would anyone vote Labour again when they are the party that stole the wealth in the first place? The cons were WAY too soft on CGT, should have hit MUCH harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Why would anyone vote Labour again when they are the party that stole the wealth in the first place? The cons were WAY too soft on CGT, should have hit MUCH harder. people are feeling an all out assualt by the lib/con ss squad, yet they arnt doing enough to hit the well off, they take about "'The world doesn't owe us a living' if thats the case then why havent they attacked the rich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomandlu Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 people are feeling an all out assualt by the lib/con ss squad, yet they arnt doing enough to hit the well off, they take about "'The world doesn't owe us a living' if thats the case then why havent they attacked the rich? Indeed - it doesn't even make sense. They don't rely on the upper class vote (there ain't enough of them), and the bo11ox of "all in it together" is becoming obvious. They need to hit the rich hard. People will put up with hardship during the correction, but they need to see that the well off are hit hardest. Personally, I'd like to see a labour victory at the next election - provided the party was led by radicals with a proper understanding of economics - but then I'd also like a citizen's wage and a pet unicorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 people are feeling an all out assualt by the lib/con ss squad, yet they arnt doing enough to hit the well off, they take about "'The world doesn't owe us a living' if thats the case then why havent they attacked the rich? Whilst a 10% hike in CGT wasnt enough in my view, its an improvement on the Labour policies that got us here. I take it you approve of this hike? What about the £1000 raise in the personal allowance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Whilst a 10% hike in CGT wasnt enough in my view, its an improvement on the Labour policies that got us here. I take it you approve of this hike? What about the £1000 raise in the personal allowance? i dont approve with the £1000 rise in PA, i wanted cgt to go back to 40%. i was reading today that off shore profits might not me taxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 i dont approve with the £1000 rise in PA, i wanted cgt to go back to 40%. i was reading today that off shore profits might not me taxed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN8oIvuk6Ro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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