Long Way Down Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Seems like the new government catchphrase is "We're all in this together" - almost as bad as New Liebor's "It's the right thing to do". I haven't benefiited from an over inflated public service salary for sitting at meetings for 35 hours a week, haven't had a share of the ridiculous housing benefit payments made to those who would rather sit at home than work, haven't had a share of the bankers bonuses,haven't borrowed beyond my means, etc. I have, however, seen the interest rate on my modest savings dwindle to a below inflation interest rate, have watched my income drop as taxation levels rise to a ridiculous level, have watched house prices spiral completely out of control, etc. So, why should we "all be in this together"? I wasn't part of the process which created this mess, so why should I feel obliged to help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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expatowner Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) Seems like the new government catchphrase is "We're all in this together" - almost as bad as New Liebor's "It's the right thing to do". I haven't benefiited from an over inflated public service salary for sitting at meetings for 35 hours a week, haven't had a share of the ridiculous housing benefit payments made to those who would rather sit at home than work, haven't had a share of the bankers bonuses,haven't borrowed beyond my means, etc. I have, however, seen the interest rate on my modest savings dwindle to a below inflation interest rate, have watched my income drop as taxation levels rise to a ridiculous level, have watched house prices spiral completely out of control, etc. So, why should we "all be in this together"? I wasn't part of the process which created this mess, so why should I feel obliged to help? Oh but you were part of the process. You just didnt "win" PS get over it! Edited June 27, 2010 by expatowner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia O'Keeffe Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Seems like the new government catchphrase is "We're all in this together" - almost as bad as New Liebor's "It's the right thing to do". I haven't benefiited from an over inflated public service salary for sitting at meetings for 35 hours a week, haven't had a share of the ridiculous housing benefit payments made to those who would rather sit at home than work, haven't had a share of the bankers bonuses,haven't borrowed beyond my means, etc. I have, however, seen the interest rate on my modest savings dwindle to a below inflation interest rate, have watched my income drop as taxation levels rise to a ridiculous level, have watched house prices spiral completely out of control, etc. So, why should we "all be in this together"? I wasn't part of the process which created this mess, so why should I feel obliged to help? err, because you live in and under the law of the UK, if you dont feel thats fair or right maybe you should emigrate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bam Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 We are not in all this together, the budget has only meant a small tax rise for me in the form of VAT, otherwise the recession has been very kind on me with annual wage increases of about 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 We're in this together -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babesagainstmachines Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Seems like the new government catchphrase is "We're all in this together" - almost as bad as New Liebor's "It's the right thing to do". I haven't benefiited from an over inflated public service salary for sitting at meetings for 35 hours a week, haven't had a share of the ridiculous housing benefit payments made to those who would rather sit at home than work, haven't had a share of the bankers bonuses,haven't borrowed beyond my means, etc. I have, however, seen the interest rate on my modest savings dwindle to a below inflation interest rate, have watched my income drop as taxation levels rise to a ridiculous level, have watched house prices spiral completely out of control, etc. So, why should we "all be in this together"? I wasn't part of the process which created this mess, so why should I feel obliged to help? You have received the benefits indirectly, though to a much lesser degree than the groups you mention. You might not have asked for them, but you received them. This is what it means to be ruled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Time Around Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 err, because you live in and under the law of the UK, if you dont feel thats fair or right maybe you should emigrate I sometimes think how groups of people might govern themselves if they found themselves in a "Passport to Pimlico" situation. I suspect that in the current economic climate asking for a government grant to run a few trials is unlikely. On a much wider point what legal steps are required if a community/town/region of the UK wanted to proceed to political independence? I know some islands like the IoM, Sark, Lundy etc have some political powers (or at least did have till recently). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Peasant Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) So, why should we "all be in this together"? I wasn't part of the process which created this mess, so why should I feel obliged to help? "Why us?" "Because we're 'ere son. Because we're 'ere." Well, actually I'm not, but bonus point if you can name the film. Edited June 27, 2010 by Live Peasant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebenstein Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 "Why us?" "Because we're 'ere son. Because we're 'ere." Well, actually I'm not, but bonus point if you can name the film. I say we build a wall around the city of London,  forcibly transport all the Civil Servants  and any bankers not in the office that day there and see how long the parasites survive disconnected from the real economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrs Bradley Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) Seems like the new government catchphrase is "We're all in this together" - almost as bad as New Liebor's "It's the right thing to do". I haven't benefiited from an over inflated public service salary for sitting at meetings for 35 hours a week, haven't had a share of the ridiculous housing benefit payments made to those who would rather sit at home than work, haven't had a share of the bankers bonuses,haven't borrowed beyond my means, etc. I have, however, seen the interest rate on my modest savings dwindle to a below inflation interest rate, have watched my income drop as taxation levels rise to a ridiculous level, have watched house prices spiral completely out of control, etc. So, why should we "all be in this together"? I wasn't part of the process which created this mess, so why should I feel obliged to help? Totally agree. It is all part of thr Marxist credo, IMO: " What's yours is mine, and what's mine's, my own" In other words - You don't share in their good times, but they expect you to share in the bad. Same old - same old. They also omit to mention that some will be more " in it" than others. Edited June 27, 2010 by Mrs Bradley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KingCharles1st Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 The disconnect between "successful" party leaders, and the people they are addressing, is now so cavernous, it beggars belief that two millionaires can genuinely understand, or truly care, what will happon to Steve and Lindsey when Lindsey gets a pay freeze accumulator, and Steve loses his job. W-ankers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non frog Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 "Why us?" "Because we're 'ere son. Because we're 'ere." Well, actually I'm not, but bonus point if you can name the film. Zulu. The blokes in the garrison about to be chopped up IIRC. Where's me prize? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummet expert Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Seems like the new government catchphrase is "We're all in this together" - almost as bad as New Liebor's "It's the right thing to do". I haven't benefiited from an over inflated public service salary for sitting at meetings for 35 hours a week, haven't had a share of the ridiculous housing benefit payments made to those who would rather sit at home than work, haven't had a share of the bankers bonuses,haven't borrowed beyond my means, etc. I have, however, seen the interest rate on my modest savings dwindle to a below inflation interest rate, have watched my income drop as taxation levels rise to a ridiculous level, have watched house prices spiral completely out of control, etc. So, why should we "all be in this together"? I wasn't part of the process which created this mess, so why should I feel obliged to help? Nor did many people, but either way our country voted for Labour 3 times. They always spend too much and leave govt with a deficit. Hopefully all those things you complain of will be put right. That will take another 13 yrs unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest BetterOffOnBenefits Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) Seems like the new government catchphrase is "We're all in this together" - almost as bad as New Liebor's "It's the right thing to do". I haven't benefiited from an over inflated public service salary for sitting at meetings for 35 hours a week, haven't had a share of the ridiculous housing benefit payments made to those who would rather sit at home than work, haven't had a share of the bankers bonuses,haven't borrowed beyond my means, etc. I have, however, seen the interest rate on my modest savings dwindle to a below inflation interest rate, have watched my income drop as taxation levels rise to a ridiculous level, have watched house prices spiral completely out of control, etc. So, why should we "all be in this together"? I wasn't part of the process which created this mess, so why should I feel obliged to help? +1 I'm not a homeowner and so haven't lined my pockets with HPI Have never had an unsecured loan or been in debt Didn't ask the bankers to do what they did Have never voted Labour (and never will) After 13 years of hardship, I now face the payback?!?!?!?!! I suppose if George Osborne was a schoolteacher, he's cane the whole class for the misdemeanours of one individual. "we're all in this together" is newspeak for "we can't punish the banks as they have us by the short n curlies" Edited June 27, 2010 by BetterOffOnBenefits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbeard Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 I suppose if George Osborne was a schoolteacher, he's cane the whole class for the misdemeanours of one individual. If a bunch of kids (bankers) burn down the classrooms, you're all going to be having lessons in a shed in the car park whether the teacher wants to or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Pizarro Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 It's all socialise the losses innit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BetterOffOnBenefits Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 If a bunch of kids (bankers) burn down the classrooms, you're all going to be having lessons in a shed in the car park whether the teacher wants to or not. and if those bunch or arsonists (the bankers) knew they were untouchable, you'd be in for a dogs life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 +1 I'm not a homeowner and so haven't lined my pockets with HPI Have never had an unsecured loan or been in debt Didn't ask the bankers to do what they did Have never voted Labour (and never will) After 13 years of hardship, I now face the payback?!?!?!?!! I suppose if George Osborne was a schoolteacher, he's cane the whole class for the misdemeanours of one individual. "we're all in this together" is newspeak for "we can't punish the banks as they have us by the short n curlies" even tho I feel it is also not my fault - fact remains I am dependent on the national economy and its competitiveness for my own future, so if a degree of shared pain is necessary to get it back on its feet then that benefits me too. I also anticipate having children and hope for a more prosperous world for them. It's a parliamenteary democracy so we also have to share responsibility for mass voting decisions even if we were in the objectors. Taking responsibility is not the same as taking blame. Did cave men say 'it's not my fault we haven't established a supply chain yet - why should I go out hunting every day' - no they didn't. they tried to make the most for the future. They planned and suffered and worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InternationalRockSuperstar Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 We're All In This Together......... Anyone else sick of this shit? YES. THE GOV'T SHOULD REPUDIATE THE DEBT RATHER THAN FORCING ME TO PAY FOR IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Peasant Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Zulu. The blokes in the garrison about to be chopped up IIRC. Where's me prize? Kind of fitting isn't it Have a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BetterOffOnBenefits Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 even tho I feel it is also not my fault - fact remains I am dependent on the national economy and its competitiveness for my own future, so if a degree of shared pain is necessary to get it back on its feet then that benefits me too. Pity this principle doesn't apply to bankers bonuses It's win/win for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
right_freds_dead Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 your only in it if you want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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