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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3020587/Tory-MP-David-Ruffley-throws-himself-under-train.html#ixzz0rHN9VC9A

Ok, I don't really want to make light of this (despite the title) as it is obviously a very sad situation for Mr Ruffley. Who knows what the cause is perhaps its the strain of the new expenses system and a cut in an MPs effective income.

I am presuming he is either depressed or mentally ill - apparently a lot of MPs are on the edge of sanity, partly the stress of regular elections on which your reputation and job depends, and having to deal with lunatic constituents.

If he is mentally ill, does that disqualify him? If so that would perhaps mean the first by-election (rather than deferred election which we have already had).

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3020587/Tory-MP-David-Ruffley-throws-himself-under-train.html#ixzz0rHN9VC9A

Ok, I don't really want to make light of this (despite the title) as it is obviously a very sad situation for Mr Ruffley. Who knows what the cause is perhaps its the strain of the new expenses system and a cut in an MPs effective income.

I am presuming he is either depressed or mentally ill - apparently a lot of MPs are on the edge of sanity, partly the stress of regular elections on which your reputation and job depends, and having to deal with lunatic constituents.

If he is mentally ill, does that disqualify him? If so that would perhaps mean the first by-election (rather than deferred election which we have already had).

You are clearly a sad sad sick person... whatever you think of the tories , whatever you think of this MP, there is really no excuse for the type of headline you put on this post ( and you trying to back away from it feosn't excuse you).. even the Sun played it with a dead bat.. but not you.. you sad sad little man, using one mans misery in that way

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You are clearly a sad sad sick person... whatever you think of the tories , whatever you think of this MP, there is really no excuse for the type of headline you put on this post ( and you trying to back away from it feosn't excuse you).. even the Sun played it with a dead bat.. but not you.. you sad sad little man, using one mans misery in that way

Sometimes a bit of gallows humour keeps people sane. I hope Mr Ruffley recovers and realises how extremely lucky he is to have survived - if he can perhaps one day joke at the incident I am sure he will be recovered.

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Sometimes a bit of gallows humour keeps people sane. I hope Mr Ruffley recovers and realises how extremely lucky he is to have survived - if he can perhaps one day joke at the incident I am sure he will be recovered.

I don't think you'll get much sympathy on this forum with a thread title like that. Belatedly labeling it gallows humour is a bit off too. I think you just misjudged the mark here though and I'm not as piffed with you as the first reply. This is a bit like telling jokes about kidnapped people while they are still under capture. Maybe it's a timing thing.

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Maybe he couldnt bear the thought of having to hand over 40 or 50% of his ill gotten capital gains to the 'little people'

Surprised Alan Sugar hasnt seized on this as concrete evidence the CGT reforms are killing people.

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I don't think you'll get much sympathy on this forum with a thread title like that. Belatedly labeling it gallows humour is a bit off too. I think you just misjudged the mark here though and I'm not as piffed with you as the first reply. This is a bit like telling jokes about kidnapped people while they are still under capture. Maybe it's a timing thing.

"Mike Livingstone" is trolling again. He specialises in posting bait articles like this.

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A few comments on the story about the 'half hearted' chat from the Sun.

Although having seen trains pull into stations - chucking yourself in front of one does seem a little random. It would give the impression of horrible really slow being dragged along in agony sort of death. Just jumping of a bridge in front of one doing 120MPH would surely be the 'sensible' option ?

I suppose this shows how ******ed up this blokes brain is.

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A few comments on the story about the 'half hearted' chat from the Sun.

Although having seen trains pull into stations - chucking yourself in front of one does seem a little random. It would give the impression of horrible really slow being dragged along in agony sort of death. Just jumping of a bridge in front of one doing 120MPH would surely be the 'sensible' option ?

I suppose this shows how ******ed up this blokes brain is.

I used to have a mate in the transport police.

From what I could tell that was pretty much his job. Scraping bits of dead person off the front of trains.

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You are clearly a sad sad sick person... whatever you think of the tories , whatever you think of this MP, there is really no excuse for the type of headline you put on this post ( and you trying to back away from it feosn't excuse you).. even the Sun played it with a dead bat.. but not you.. you sad sad little man, using one mans misery in that way

+1 And I say this as a rabid anti-Tory.

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I used to have a mate in the transport police.

From what I could tell that was pretty much his job. Scraping bits of dead person off the front of trains.

My Mum used to commute by train and unfortunately it was fairly regular occurance. She used to catch the train Cardiff-London Paddington train and said it used to happen several times a year on that line alone but rarely made the news.

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"Mike Livingstone" is trolling again. He specialises in posting bait articles like this.

Not trolling, but i will confess to trying to draw attention to the thread and may be the headline was not in best taste.  I do agree with Rain'ard though.

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Perhaps not the clearest English, maybe I should have said "will have recovered" , "be recovered" sounds a bit more mechanical.

I thought you meant he was still lying on the tracks. :huh:

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Nothing to do with politics, but I don't have much sympathy for the man. I understand he may have had depression or some other mental issue, but he should take responsiblity for it. I don't think he should go to the railway station and try to trow himself in front of a train and ruin somebody else's career or peace of mind. I'm not quite in agreement with the prevoius comment at least he didn't want to take some with him. Some may remember that not long ago attempted suicide was illegal

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Oh FFS, get off your high horses everyone. Suicide is one of the most selfish acts someone can commit. Enough with all this faux outrage at Mike's take on it.

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Oh FFS, get off your high horses everyone. Suicide is one of the most selfish acts someone can commit. Enough with all this faux outrage at Mike's take on it.

It's not faux outrage at all. Anyone who's experienced a family suicide will know that it's no laughing matter.

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False flag to stop all the slow leaking information about expenses?

Jumping in front of a train and missing both the train and the electricity? Must be a first . Not that im cynical or anything. Is there CCTV foortage, or did that get 'lost'?

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Nothing to do with politics, but I don't have much sympathy for the man. I understand he may have had depression or some other mental issue, but he should take responsiblity for it. I don't think he should go to the railway station and try to trow himself in front of a train and ruin somebody else's career or peace of mind. I'm not quite in agreement with the prevoius comment at least he didn't want to take some with him. Some may remember that not long ago attempted suicide was illegal

All of which assumes someone suffering from depression thinks rationally about their actions and the effect it would have on somebody else's career. You're correct that within recent times attempted suicide was illegal - equally soldiers suffering from PTSD were shot for cowardice.

I like to think we have a better understanding of these issues than previously - but certainly the very high levels of homelessness and unemployment among ex service-personnel speaks to the distance we have yet to go.

Let's hope that you or yours never experience mental illness. Mind you, given the obsession which some posters on this site have with the mental fitness of Gordon Brown (even now that we have a new PM) you're not alone in your intolerance toward perceived mental illness.

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Spare a thought for six of my friends who killed themselves in the early 90s due to these ******* mps who had condemned them to a life of poverty due to it being a price worth paying....bastards the lot of them... i have no sympathy for this man at all....i would love to know how many people committed suicide back then due to the government's economic policy...

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Happy, you really are pathetic.

This thread is about an MP who tried to commit suicide.

Quite naturally mental illness is discussed so you, in your own stupid way, criticise anyone who posts about Brown being bonkers as "intolerance toward mental illness".

Quite absurd! I have made many posts about Gordon Brown quite clearly being unbalanced. I am not being intolerant or laughing at the man. My concern is that he was running the country and it's finances for such a long time whilst obviously not being in a fit state to do so. Through fear, or toeing the line, his colleagues accepted him, warts and all, and now future generations will be paying the price.

It is idiots like you who dare not mention " the truth that cannot be spoken" that are the problem. Just look at how many of the armed forces lost their lives because of his continual lying about funding and his total inabiliy to admit he lied. Yes, that idiot cost many British lives. These men were sons,fathers, brothers to so many people and are now just statistics. All because Brown and his admirers could not see the bleedin obvious.

Does this make me intolerant of mental illness...NO!

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Spare a thought for six of my friends who killed themselves in the early 90s due to these ******* mps who had condemned them to a life of poverty due to it being a price worth paying....bastards the lot of them... i have no sympathy for this man at all....i would love to know how many people committed suicide back then due to the government's economic policy...

I know of three business owners who killed themselves after the last government wrecked the economy. The only people to blame for their suicides was themselves, as with every suicide.

Thousands of people find themselves forcibly made redundant, they don't all kill themselves through self-pity.

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