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Just been listening to an interview on RTE - 400,000 employees at peak - now 200,000 and falling.

Wages still 60% ABOVE UK construction wages (N Irish contractors are coming in and undercutting Irish wages)

Starting wage for site operative: 34,000 Euros (they were talking about the need for wage cuts across the industry).

Major infrastructure and other projects ending - nothing new coming through - getting worse and worse

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Just been listening to an interview on RTE - 400,000 employees at peak - now 200,000 and falling.

Wages still 60% ABOVE UK construction wages (N Irish contractors are coming in and undercutting Irish wages)

Starting wage for site operative: 34,000 Euros (they were talking about the need for wage cuts across the industry).

Major infrastructure and other projects ending - nothing new coming through - getting worse and worse

And according to moneyweek british based lenders have £158 billion tied up there. OMG

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Just been listening to an interview on RTE - 400,000 employees at peak - now 200,000 and falling.

Wages still 60% ABOVE UK construction wages (N Irish contractors are coming in and undercutting Irish wages)

Starting wage for site operative: 34,000 Euros (they were talking about the need for wage cuts across the industry).

Major infrastructure and other projects ending - nothing new coming through - getting worse and worse

I've been working in Ireland since Jan '09. National average of 20% house overbuilds - ie sitting empty. Shopping malls unopened. Something like 40% prices drops (so far). Civils companies laying people off. Mind you with unemployment benefit at 200 Euros per week...

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Yeah - they can still afford to treat their jobless and pensioners well - some of the best benefits and lowest taxes in Europe. Meanwhile, over here we have high taxes and some of the lowest benefits in the western world. Huh! And the Brits still have the nerve/indecency to moan on and on and on about the way they waste their money on the feckless poor, and how generous their disgusting inequality stoking social security system is. More worried about CGT increases than raising the poorest paid out of income tax.

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Yeah - they can still afford to treat their jobless and pensioners well - some of the best benefits and lowest taxes in Europe. Meanwhile, over here we have high taxes and some of the lowest benefits in the western world. Huh! And the Brits still have the nerve/indecency to moan on and on and on about the way they waste their money on the feckless poor, and how generous their disgusting inequality stoking system is. More worried about CGT increases than raising the poorest paid out of income tax.

No they can't benefits are all paid with borrowed money..

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Yeah - they can still afford to treat their jobless and pensioners well - some of the best benefits and lowest taxes in Europe. Meanwhile, over here we have high taxes and some of the lowest benefits in the western world. Huh! And the Brits still have the nerve/indecency to moan on and on and on about the way they waste their money on the feckless poor, and how generous their disgusting inequality stoking social security system is. More worried about CGT increases than raising the poorest paid out of income tax.

And in your oppinion will raising cgt take them out of income tax. I doubt it.

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And in your oppinion will raising cgt take them out of income tax. I doubt it.

We all live in hope but every little helps. I certainly hope so. I remember the only time I voted Liberal was when they came out and said they were going to raise income tax and every penny would be spent on education.

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Yeah - they can still afford to treat their jobless and pensioners well - some of the best benefits and lowest taxes in Europe. Meanwhile, over here we have high taxes and some of the lowest benefits in the western world. Huh! And the Brits still have the nerve/indecency to moan on and on and on about the way they waste their money on the feckless poor, and how generous their disgusting inequality stoking social security system is. More worried about CGT increases than raising the poorest paid out of income tax.

Inequality is a good thing though. We urgently need more of it. Otherwise the threads here fill up with smug scroungers boasting about how they get a full time wage for "working" sixteen hours a week.

Raising the poorest paid out if income tax will just destroy the economy by encouraging them to vote for even more handouts.

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No they can't benefits are all paid with borrowed money..

The country has a 20 billion euro deficit this year (25 last)

Compare that to income of 35 billion...

The fat welfare (22billion) and PS (20 billion) are being paid mostly by borrowed money

As for the builders, heres the worlds smallest flute

they got what they ******ing deserve

gone are the days of a Labourer earning more than an Engineer

Raising the poorest paid out if income tax will just destroy the economy by encouraging them to vote for even more handouts.

For the first time in Irish history, Irish Labour are now the most popular party

god save us all :(, if those ******ing pinko communists ever get in power im out of here

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Major infrastructure and other projects ending - nothing new coming through - getting worse and worse

No, just the inevitable correction to sanity.

Once more it is the medicine being seen as unwelcome, rather than the disease. Bonkers.

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No, just the inevitable correction to sanity.

Once more it is the medicine being seen as unwelcome, rather than the disease. Bonkers.

Exactly

Construction was 25% of the economy at one stage

this is a long overdue correction and the writting was on wall for many years now

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Yeah - they can still afford to treat their jobless and pensioners well - some of the best benefits and lowest taxes in Europe. Meanwhile, over here we have high taxes and some of the lowest benefits in the western world. Huh! And the Brits still have the nerve/indecency to moan on and on and on about the way they waste their money on the feckless poor, and how generous their disgusting inequality stoking social security system is. More worried about CGT increases than raising the poorest paid out of income tax.

I don't think its quite as rosey as you think. 50 Euros to visit the GP, 100 Euros to visit casualty. If you don't have a medical card, and you wont unless you earn damn all you pay for your drugs as in pay what they cost not a seven quid perscription charge like here. Car tax ludicrous unless you drive a greenie/pverty special, insurance expensive no matter what you drive. £0 cents or something tax on a supermarket bag.

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I don't think its quite as rosey as you think. 50 Euros to visit the GP, 100 Euros to visit casualty. If you don't have a medical card, and you wont unless you earn damn all you pay for your drugs as in pay what they cost not a seven quid perscription charge like here. Car tax ludicrous unless you drive a greenie/pverty special, insurance expensive no matter what you drive. £0 cents or something tax on a supermarket bag.

I'm trying to rent a car for a week, cheapest I find is 350 euros for a mid-size car for 8 days :(.

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