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Gaza Blockade Lifted

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/10303301.stm

The blockade on the Gaza Strip "must be broken", the head of the Arab League Amr Moussa has said.

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Israel and Egypt have held a tightened blockade on Gaza since the Islamist movement Hamas took over there in 2007.

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Following the flotilla raid, Egypt opened its border with Gaza allowing people with valid passes to cross.

Egypt has said the crossing will remain open "indefinitely".

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Nice to see Arabs helping Arabs and not just blaming Israel for everything and using Palestinians as a negotiation stick (ignoring their human rights) ....

I hope that Egypt will be able to stop smuggling weapons to Gaza. Otherwise there will be a new confrontation between Hamas and Israel and civilians will die again ...

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http://news.bbc.co.u...st/10303301.stm

The blockade on the Gaza Strip "must be broken", the head of the Arab League Amr Moussa has said.

...

Israel and Egypt have held a tightened blockade on Gaza since the Islamist movement Hamas took over there in 2007.

...

Following the flotilla raid, Egypt opened its border with Gaza allowing people with valid passes to cross.

Egypt has said the crossing will remain open "indefinitely".

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Nice to see Arabs helping Arabs and not just blaming Israel for everything and using Palestinians as a negotiation stick (ignoring their human rights) ....

I hope that Egypt will be able to stop smuggling weapons to Gaza. Otherwise there will be a new confrontation between Hamas and Israel and civilians will die again ...

maybe the US will stop SELLING arms to Israel too.

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maybe the US will stop SELLING arms to Israel too.

1) if US stops, Russians and Chines will start ... you can not stop arms business ...

2) BTW when you see some baddies they always have AK47 and RPG7 ... you never see any US or European production ... think about it hard ...

3) and the last point: if Israel looses a single war they will be all dead; like for example here:

http://www.youtube.c...fatah+kill&aq=f

check your self: there are no PoWs

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1) if US stops, Russians and Chines will start ... you can not stop arms business ...

2) BTW when you see some baddies they always have AK47 and RPG7 ... you never see any US or European production ... think about it hard ...

3) and the last point: if Israel looses a single war they will be all dead; like for example here:

http://www.youtube.c...fatah+kill&aq=f

check your self: there are no PoWs

On your second point, where did the white phos shells come from that the Israelis were randomly lobbing into Gaza?

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On your second point, where did the white phos shells come from that the Israelis were randomly lobbing into Gaza?

1) Israel only takes a British example, nothing more or less ...

http://www.timesonli...icle5470047.ece

The WP does not fill the shell but is impregnated into 116 felt wedges which, once dispersed [by a high-explosive charge], start to burn within four to five seconds. They then burn for five to ten minutes. The smoke screen produced is extremely effective," he said.

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British and American artillery units have stocks of white phosphorus munitions but they are banned as anti-personnel weapons. "These munitions are not unlawful as their purpose is to provide obscuration and not cause injury by burning," a Ministry of Defence source said.

2) Let's compare Russian and Israeli armies in action:

a/ http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/7855070.stm

Gaza population: 1 500 000

Gaza civilian casualties: 1 314

b/ http://en.wikipedia....rst_Chechen_War

Chechen s population: 1 200 000

Chechen civilian casualties: 30 000 – 40 000

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Small groups and revolutuionaries use AKs and RPGs because they are cheap, widely available, mass produced all over the world, and in the case of the AK rifles can be used by untrained / semi trained fighters because of low maintenace and ease of use.

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Small groups and revolutuionaries use AKs and RPGs because they are cheap, widely available, mass produced all over the world, and in the case of the AK rifles can be used by untrained / semi trained fighters because of low maintenace and ease of use.

I am just arguing about US arms deals. As far as I know they go mainly to normal countries like e.g. Saudi. On the other side cheap Chines copies of AKs go everywhere else ....

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Small groups and revolutuionaries use AKs and RPGs because they are cheap, widely available, mass produced all over the world, and in the case of the AK rifles can be used by untrained / semi trained fighters because of low maintenace and ease of use.

do you mean children?

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The EU will very soon change it's softly-softly stance with islam.

There's already rumblings in places like holland and germany.So far we have actually been pretty restrained.

there will most likely be more attacks,but this time on european soil AS WELL as UK and america.

Europe's plan was to get us embroiled solely in the conflict,while they sit it out and gloat.

watching us pay both a financial and human price.

this ISN'T going to happen.

the soft underbelly of europe is a prime target for some of the other nasties like gadaffi,and it won't just be a quiet demographic change,it is going to get nasty.

The EU are extremely unwise to piss off britain and the US,should the SHTF,we could quite easily just step back and say "not our problem",when hordes of mad arabs come a plundering and trying to retake the old moorish-occupied territories like spain and southern france forcibly.

They seem to forget just how reliant they are on anglo-saxon military backup.They may end up having to fight their own wars pretty soon.

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The EU will very soon change it's softly-softly stance with islam.

There's already rumblings in places like holland and germany.So far we have actually been pretty restrained.

there will most likely be more attacks,but this time on european soil AS WELL as UK and america.

Europe's plan was to get us embroiled solely in the conflict,while they sit it out and gloat.

watching us pay both a financial and human price.

this ISN'T going to happen.

the soft underbelly of europe is a prime target for some of the other nasties like gadaffi,and it won't just be a quiet demographic change,it is going to get nasty.

The EU are extremely unwise to piss off britain and the US,should the SHTF,we could quite easily just step back and say "not our problem",when hordes of mad arabs come a plundering and trying to retake the old moorish-occupied territories like spain and southern france forcibly.

They seem to forget just how reliant they are on anglo-saxon military backup.They may end up having to fight their own wars pretty soon.

Do you really believe what you write or are you just trying to be sensational?

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On your second point, where did the white phos shells come from that the Israelis were randomly lobbing into Gaza?

Utterly abhorrent, regardless of race, religion or politics. No excuse.

Edit to add: as anti-personnel.

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I am arguing about official US and European arms deals. Not about the stolen or smuggled stuff ..

And you really think that state of the art tracking systems were smuggled out of the US and Britain lost a load of Rapier missiles off the back of a lorry?!

I know what you were saying and you are wrong.

All of the US & European arms manufacturers did very good business thanks to the Iran/Iraq war supplying both sides at the same time.

Just like they have been happily supplying both Pakistan and India and pretty much every African conflict in the last 60 years.

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On your second point, where did the white phos shells come from that the Israelis were randomly lobbing into Gaza?

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Casualties per unit of time...?

if Israelis wanted there would be also 40 000 casualties. But they did not want ...

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And you really think that state of the art tracking systems were smuggled out of the US and Britain lost a load of Rapier missiles off the back of a lorry?!

I know what you were saying and you are wrong.

All of the US & European arms manufacturers did very good business thanks to the Iran/Iraq war supplying both sides at the same time.

Just like they have been happily supplying both Pakistan and India and pretty much every African conflict in the last 60 years.

Majority of Iraq's weapons during 1st and 2ns Gulf wars were Russian ...

India and Pakistan are normal states .....

I have not seen any significant volumes of US or western European arms in Africa. Majority of weapons in Africa are Russian and Chines ...

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