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Mark Uttley

Mobile Phones Responsible For Disappearance Of Honey Bee

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Amazing, if it's true. The decline in the bee population has been worrying.

I've heard that one before, and I've heard it rubbished. Can't say whether there's anything in it.

One datapoint: friends of mine keep bees, and have healthy hives. They're in an area of pretty good signals, but also on the side of a big and steep valley which probably shapes the signal and may make it patchy. Lots of good bee-food around.

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I recall reading that hives in cities (there are some) were less effected than usual yet there are more mobile phone masts and phones there.

Correlation does not imply causation:

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I recall reading that hives in cities (there are some) were less effected than usual yet there are more mobile phone masts and phones there.

Correlation does not imply causation:

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But the number of pirates has been going up recently?

Oh yeah, it still holds :D

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some credence to it.

Very little, I'd suggest

microwaves have been previously used to sterilise batches of meditteranean fruit flies to stop them populating.

Citation ?

Microwaves would only have a sterilising effect if they were causing signficant tissue heating. I doubt you could target the reproductive tissue in fruit fly - you'd either cook the whole thing or do nothing. I suppose that if you cook them they're not going to reproduce too well :)

The levels of phone signals are way, way below levels where you'd see any thermal effects, of course.

Sure you aren't thinking of gamma ?

it would also have an effect on their navigation.

Why ?

AFAIK the evidence on insects and some birds using static magnetic fields to navigate is reasonable, but there's no plausible physical mechanism for that to be interfered with by low-level microwave signals.

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Just taken 15 kilos of honey off two hives - and if the bees had mobile phones, they'd be getting 5 bars of 3G. Bees are doing roaringly well, just split them into 8 hives as well.

IMO, losses are mainly down to:

- damp hives over winter - bees are fine in cold, but wet kills them stone dead.

- people not understanding varroa, nosema or any of the other parasites.

- people not feeding over winter having pulled 60 kilos of honey off....

Hives in London generally do spectacularly well, and London has mobile masts all over the place.

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I think it's more likely to do with the disappearance of red telephone kiosks. Since the introduction of mobile phones, red kiosks have disappeared.

There is a clear correlation between kiosk numbers and bee numbers. Perhaps bees only mated in kiosks.

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