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The Labour party is claiming a record-breaking surge in its membership since the election amid signs that disgruntled Liberal Democrats are flocking to the party.

Almost 10,000 people have joined the party since the close of the polls. The post-election boost represents a 6% rise in its overall membership, after years of dwindling numbers willing to commit to the party.

Some of the new members claim they have signed up as protest at the decision of the Liberal Democrats to join the Conservatives in a coalition. But despite the unease of its own activists the Liberal Democrats are also boasting hundreds of new members in the last week.

The sharpest rise in new Labour members came after details emerged of the coalition agreement. During the course of yesterday alone, as Nick Clegg and David Cameron held their joint press conference, 4,211 joined Labour.

"Unprecedented numbers of people joining the Labour Party. 1 every 15 seconds at the moment," the party's Twitter feed said.

I expect they're both lying, but we'll find out as regards Labour when they hold their leadership election.

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I wonder if most/all political parties experience a surge in membership in the lead-in (and -out) of a general election just because of the hugely increased interest in politics around that time?

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I wonder if most/all political parties experience a surge in membership in the lead-in (and -out) of a general election just because of the hugely increased interest in politics around that time?

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I think that's pretty much the case.

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I heard a rumour that a disgruntled group of hardcore HPC'ers had joined Labour, with the intention of inflitrating through the ranks, and then destroying the party at some point in the future, tyler durden style.....................

Good Luck to ya. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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They would say that.

I don't believe it.

I am tempted to join in order to try to get Balls voted as leader, thus ensuring their decimation at the next election. Not tempted yourself Mr Fury?

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It could be Labour is in opposition so like the mid 1990s people feel they have more control

and more to offer than to a Government in power. Figures up until the 1990s were very dodgy

but much better now they publish accounts, although the membership figures are stil unverified

and not even reported for the Conservatives.

Membership of UK political parties

Standard Note: SN/SG/5125

Last updated: 17 August 2009

Author: John Marshall

Section Social and General Statistics

This Note collates all available figures on party membership, and documents trends in

membership since 1928. In 2005, only 1.3% of the electorate was a member of one of the

main political parties. The latest figures show the Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat

parties have memberships of approximately 250,000, 166,000 and 60,000 respectively. At

the peak of membership in the early 1950s, however, the Conservatives claimed nearly 3

million members while Labour claimed more than 1 million members.

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Peter Mair and Ingrid van Biezen have observed that the figures claimed by parties are

“inevitably crude estimates” in many cases. Many commentators have also cast doubt

upon the integrity of party-provided membership figures, especially those for the 1945-1980 period.

Mair and van Biezen explained that,

… it should also be recognized that the parties themselves are also not very reliable

sources for data on party membership. For reasons that are perhaps too complex to go

into in detail in this brief overview, there exists a tendency among both political parties

and political analysts to place a particularly high value on the traditional notion of the

‘mass’ party. That is, both party leaders and political observers tend to assume that

parties, when properly functioning, will enjoy a relatively large mass membership that is

drawn from a wide range of society. Conversely, parties which lack such a mass base

are often seen to be in some ways elitist or even as insufficiently legitimate. Hence

almost all political parties, of whatever hue, claim to be active in the pursuit of

members, and become concerned if levels of affiliation appear to be in decline.

Members in this sense offer a source of legitimation to parties, both within the parties

themselves and also without. For this reason, parties are often likely to claim larger

(active) memberships than seems in fact to be the case.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Looking at the UK in particular, Butler and Butler suggest that Conservative figures before

1993 had been “greatly exaggerated”,while party membership specialists Patrick Seyd and

Paul Whiteley have said that Labour “certainly exaggerated” its figures before the 1980s.

Furthermore, Andrew Thorpe has explained that:

… the Labour party’s individual membership figures have always been regarded as

somewhat suspect, especially from 1956 when constituency Labour parties (CLPs)

were forced to affiliate on a membership of at least 800, and still more from 1963 when

that figure was raised to 1000, at which point, in theory, an actual membership of zero

would have been recorded as 618,000.

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Blair’s Labour Party provided a range of incentives to encourage individuals to join. For

example, members had the opportunity to influence the choice of party policies and

personnel following the introduction of new organizational structures. Furthermore,

members were encouraged to believe that they would be contributing to significant

policy changes in Britain if they helped Labour to be elected as the governing party. As

a further incentive, the party emphasized that new recruits would be joining a growing,

vibrant, social organization. These particular incentives were no longer so powerful

after Labour had been elected to office in 1997, and from 1998 onwards party

membership began to decline again. Whether this membership growth over four years

was just a temporary blip in an otherwise inexorable decline, or evidence of fluctuation,

is open to debate (see Mair, 2000; Seyd and Whiteley, 2002).

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/briefings/snsg-05125.pdf

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I am tempted to join in order to try to get Balls voted as leader, thus ensuring their decimation at the next election. Not tempted yourself Mr Fury?

No - get Elliot Morely as leader. That would be much better. They love him in Bury.

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No - get Elliot Morely as leader. That would be much better. They love him in Bury.

Is that the prison he is going to?

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Is that the prison he is going to?

If he goes to a closed prison for more than 4 weeks, I'll be amazed.

If he gets found guilty, I'll be surprised.

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If he goes to a closed prison for more than 4 weeks, I'll be amazed.

If he gets found guilty, I'll be surprised.

sounds like a suitable candidate for them

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I expect they're both lying, but we'll find out as regards Labour when they hold their leadership election.

Source?

Could that be numbers of existing members renewing subscriptions? A change in counting at some affiliated trade union? Enter your hypothesis here.

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Source?

Could that be numbers of existing members renewing subscriptions? A change in counting at some affiliated trade union? Enter your hypothesis here.

oh don't ask him to answer a question whatever you do, you'll never hear from him again

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I expect they're both lying, but we'll find out as regards Labour when they hold their leadership election.

Is it even open to question?

Liebour have been consistently lying and distorting for the last two decades, I cannot see any reason why this would be different now.....

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Spin.

All spin and nothing else.

They want people to join and so put the news story out there to give people the thought suggestion to go and join.

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Spin.

All spin and nothing else.

They want people to join and so put the news story out there to give people the thought suggestion to go and join.

Aren't they a week late? or are they 4 years and 360 odd days early?

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If he goes to a closed prison for more than 4 weeks, I'll be amazed.

If he gets found guilty, I'll be surprised.

I bet you thought Jeremy Thorpe was guilty!

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