InternationalRockSuperstar Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkdur94d5Z8&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uplMh9CrRII if you say to a slave that his ancestors 'chose' slavery and therefore he is bound by their decision, he will simply say "if slavery is a choice, I choose not to be a slave". this is the most frightening statement for the ruling classes to hear, which is why they train their slaves to attack anyone who dares speak it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkdur94d5Z8&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uplMh9CrRII thanks for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InternationalRockSuperstar Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 thanks for this I pinched it off 24knews. I don't post there but their youtube thread is certainly worth lurking on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I pinched it off 24knews. I don't post there but their youtube thread is certainly worth lurking on . cheers its done by the guy that Injin has mentioned before at FreedomainRadio nit eeds circulating to try and get people to think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erranta Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 After the Renaissance, serfdom became increasingly rare in most of Western Europe but grew strong in Central and Eastern Europe, where it had previously been less common.In England, it lasted legally up to the 1600s and in France until 1789. There were native-born Scottish serfs until 1799! I've always wondered about our weird right to a tiny parcel of land that councils are legally obliged to provide when asked. An 'Allotment' is basically the same 'parcel of land' that an original "serf" was given to grow his/her own food on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 (edited) The illuminati thought it would be funny to use everyone's birth certficate number on share certificates on the US NYSE. Each share or life has a price, and yield. Conspiracy or coincidence? I create nothing, I own. Muhahaha Edited April 27, 2010 by Money Spinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 (edited) What are you going to do when you're 'free' fellas? Edit: Nice bit of NLP on the original video for the 'believers'. Almost robotic like in it's trance enducing pacing and cadence. Nice job! He forgot to add 'buy gold' or does that come in another vid? http://www.youtube.c...h?v=RZW37WiyGWg Edited April 27, 2010 by Red Kharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erranta Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 This is a good example of their 'control' National Lottery - profits from whom, now go to pay off pensions of Canadian Teachers! If we all decide to go "NO, Up yours Canadian National Lottery" We want to start a UK wholly owned one, which divides the profits up/given to causes in proportion to the "band of salary/income" of all the ticket buyers - run by the people, for the people! No more of this 'Elitist' spending of 10's of Millions pounds thrown at the upkeep of the National Opera House etc! Could a UK company startup do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UK Debt Slave Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I pinched it off 24knews. I don't post there but their youtube thread is certainly worth lurking on . Excellent find The parallel with livestock is a conclusion I have come to myself. The debt based monetary system is the best evidence you need that we are all slaves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 The Dog and the Wolf An Aesop's Fable A gaunt Wolf was almost dead with hunger when he happened to meet a House-dog who was passing by. "Ah, Cousin," said the Dog. "I knew how it would be; your irregular life will soon be the ruin of you. Why do you not work steadily as I do, and get your food regularly given to you?" "I would have no objection," said the Wolf, "if I could only get a place." "I will easily arrange that for you," said the Dog; "come with me to my master and you shall share my work." So the Wolf and the Dog went towards the town together. On the way there the Wolf noticed that the hair on a certain part of the Dog's neck was very much worn away, so he asked him how that had come about. "Oh, it is nothing," said the Dog. "That is only the place where the collar is put on at night to keep me chained up; it chafes a bit, but one soon gets used to it." "Is that all?" said the Wolf. "Then good-bye to you, Master Dog." Better starve free than be a fat slave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Back to X-Factor you weak inadequate serfs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJAR Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 A correct assessment of the essential origin of government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 (edited) it would be safe to assume that the present establishment view us more as broiler hens than cattle. no free range about it. with commensurate educational/audivisual diet of garbage. they've tried this before haven't they? wasn't it animal bonemeal/offal in the diet that gave the cows BSE? how I'd love to see the likes of milliband/blair and such choking on the hamburgers they have created! Edited April 27, 2010 by oracle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I live in a democracy, there's no conspiracy out there. Drink Coca cola, support Man Utd, watch BBC news, and vote Labour. Carry on chaps, I a nearly there to my 25% shared home ownership! Thank you my masters..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubai Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Great find, IRS. Makes ya think, dunnit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boynamedsue Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Better starve free than be a fat slave Anarcho-Capitalists. Proudly supporting other people's right to starve to death since Ayn Rand stopped taking her meds. BTW. I know Aesop is from ancient Greece, but I doubt the type of freedom he had in mind was the same as the one people on this thread seem to be subscribing. Edited April 28, 2010 by boynamedsue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Anarcho-Capitalists. Proudly supporting other people's right to starve to death since Ayn Rand stopped taking her meds. BTW. I know Aesop is from ancient Greece, but I doubt the type of freedom he had in mind was the same as the one people on this thread seem to be subscribing. are there different kinds of freedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I see, being a customer makes you a slave. total t0ss. we are ALL customers...we ALL contribute to the economy as customers. If you want to run a business, yes, you are earning on the backs of others...but then again, they have the ability to pay, so they too are earning off the backs of other, who too, have the ability to pay, so too are earning off the backs of others, who too, have....... Boil this down, we are all slaves to the earth....without it we couldnt survive...then again, what would happen to the Earth if we werent here...oh yeah, it doesnt need us at all.. total t0ss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olebrum Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Nice piece of historical revision there. The right workers have were not granted. People fought and died for them. Of course this was from a time when people actually stood together and were prepared to battle for a common cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boynamedsue Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 are there different kinds of freedom Yes, in as much as freedom exists as anything other than a word. A person is only absolutely economically free if they control all the world's resources and all of the physical goods within it. They must also be obeyed by the rest of the population, though that would kind of follow on from the first conditions. Then they can do whatever they want, they are completely free. All the other theories of freedom are just about what is the right way to divide the inability to fulfill our desires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Yes, in as much as freedom exists as anything other than a word. A person is only absolutely economically free if they control all the world's resources and all of the physical goods within it. They must also be obeyed by the rest of the population, though that would kind of follow on from the first conditions. Then they can do whatever they want, they are completely free. All the other theories of freedom are just about what is the right way to divide the inability to fulfill our desires. you are confusing freedom with ownership of resources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Yes, in as much as freedom exists as anything other than a word. A person is only absolutely economically free if they control all the world's resources and all of the physical goods within it. They must also be obeyed by the rest of the population, though that would kind of follow on from the first conditions. Then they can do whatever they want, they are completely free. All the other theories of freedom are just about what is the right way to divide the inability to fulfill our desires. sounds like Klingon logic. trouble is, under the top free man (King) are 50 more wanting the crown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InternationalRockSuperstar Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 All the other theories of freedom are just about what is the right way to divide the inability to fulfill our desires. voluntary trade. not hard really. I'm guessing when you go to the supermarket that you pay for your food, rather than threatening the staff with a baseball bat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AteMoose Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Big problem is that the farmed can become the farmer. The video suggests there is a shadowy man who farms the world. Bill Gates is a farmer? John Prescott is a Farmer? Warren Buffet is a farmer? Richard Branson is a Farmer? Hey even great great great grandad had alot of political clout but my family has fall from grace. There isn't one person in control, there are a group of people and this group of people changes. If somone works really hard as a herded animal they make money and they can become a moover and a shaker and farm the other people... In the animal world a cow cannot rule over the farmer, in the human world it is possible. The video goes on about farmers creating an enemy for the farmed to focus there anger on. Well these videos also create an enemy, the enemy in this video is the man who has a plan to enslave the world. The current no1 enemy in the world today is the 'banker', but wait isn't the banker also the farmer? It all starts to get messy when you look into it. Perhaps the truth is there is a plan but it isnt a plan by one person it is a shared plan by people in power and with wealth and it is possible to get into that position. Its pure and simple survival of the fittest and meanest, but conspiriststs try and find a bigger picture, they look for the man. When your in that position of power and wealth your natural instinct is to hold onto power and wealth. The choice is threefold not twofold: Drop out of society Make do with society Fk over other people and become a farmer Its animal farm, all the animals are equal but some animals make themselves the bosses and rule over the other animals. The one hole is animals can move from being a normal animal to a farmer animal and vice versa Edited April 28, 2010 by AteMoose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Big problem is that the farmed can become the farmer. The video suggests there is a shadowy man who farms the world. Bill Gates is a farmer? John Prescott is a Farmer? Warren Buffet is a farmer? Richard Branson is a Farmer? Hey even great great great grandad had alot of political clout but my family has fall from grace. There isn't one person in control, there are a group of people and this group of people changes. If somone works really hard as a herded animal they make money and they can become a moover and a shaker and farm the other people... In the animal world a cow cannot rule over the farmer, in the human world it is possible. The video goes on about farmers creating an enemy for the farmed to focus there anger on. Well these videos also create an enemy, the enemy in this video is the man who has a plan to enslave the world. The current no1 enemy in the world today is the 'banker', but wait isn't the banker also the farmer? It all starts to get messy when you look into it. Perhaps the truth is there is a plan but it isnt a plan by one person it is a shared plan by people in power and with wealth and it is possible to get into that position. Its pure and simple survival of the fittest and meanest, but conspiriststs try and find a bigger picture, they look for the man. When your in that position of power and wealth your natural instinct is to hold onto power and wealth. The choice is threefold not twofold: Drop out of society Make do with society Fk over other people and become a farmer Its animal farm, all the animals are equal but some animals make themselves the bosses and rule over the other animals. The one hole is animals can move from being a normal animal to a farmer animal Changing the people involved in a corrupt system, doesn't change the system. Beocming a farmer doesn't end farming and is no solution. You missed "change society" from your options, btw. It doesn't have to be a farm. Edit: Pretty much all Stefs stuff is great. Shame we didn't get on. Edited April 28, 2010 by Injin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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