homeless Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 just take a looka t the news articles all scottish job losses guess the end of the boom in scotland wont be far away if this keeps up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 just take a looka t the news articlesall scottish job losses guess the end of the boom in scotland wont be far away if this keeps up. H, Ive argued for some time that the Scots need to watch thier addiction to regulation and rule following as this all costs time and money. I have a number of savings and investments, some held with Scots companies. The Scots ones are ott when it comes to Money Laundering, in a way the English institutions arent. In terms of simple procedures the Scots again display rule addicition that gets in the way of me as a customer wanting quick simple transactions / advice. With customer security questions again they are ott. Where as my English Banks and savings companies will ask my name, dob and a couple of charaters from a password, the Scots typically ask 2 or 3 more questions - very annoying, and often all I need to know is something generic - ie not pertinent to my actual account. I suspect the Scots also take employment law to the enth degree which again isnt helpful when it comes to running a business. Lastly, I find them very robotic. Listen to any Scottish politician. You will find that they all 'fashion conform' in thier use of language (apart from Galloway). For example; "moving forward" "working in close partnership with" "we've put in place measures" "team building" "empowering people". Listen also to Scots call centre staff, again they are like little robot mimicks to a far higher degree than the English. So conformist to rules and dont think outside the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboypass Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Dogbox, Im sure your last post is a form of rasism. Please keep to the topic of HPC rather than berating the scots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) Dogbox, Im sure your last post is a form of rasism. Please keep to the topic of HPC rather than berating the scots. Del, the day I am forced to stop making observations on the Human race, is the day Ill get off this planet. I also often refer to the English (my lot) as chavs and spongers. Is this also racist? Can you let me know oh great one? Your second piece of 'censorship advice' tells me what topics I may or may not discuss. I pitty your children you control freak. Edited August 13, 2005 by dogbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
right_freds_dead Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 allrightt. allright. ello ello. who called the PC police ? weve had allegations of racism and in this multicultural empowering society theres no place for blocking out any differences in creed racec or gender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleBubbleTrouble Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) H, Ive argued for some time that the Scots need to watch thier addiction to regulation and rule following as this all costs time and money.I have a number of savings and investments, some held with Scots companies. The Scots ones are ott when it comes to Money Laundering, in a way the English institutions arent. In terms of simple procedures the Scots again display rule addicition that gets in the way of me as a customer wanting quick simple transactions / advice. With customer security questions again they are ott. Where as my English Banks and savings companies will ask my name, dob and a couple of charaters from a password, the Scots typically ask 2 or 3 more questions - very annoying, and often all I need to know is something generic - ie not pertinent to my actual account. I suspect the Scots also take employment law to the enth degree which again isnt helpful when it comes to running a business. Lastly, I find them very robotic. Listen to any Scottish politician. You will find that they all 'fashion conform' in thier use of language (apart from Galloway). For example; "moving forward" "working in close partnership with" "we've put in place measures" "team building" "empowering people". Listen also to Scots call centre staff, again they are like little robot mimicks to a far higher degree than the English. So conformist to rules and dont think outside the box. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What a load of unmitigated pants you are talking. How on earth can you reflect corporate policy upon a race is beyond me! Exactly how do you know all the decision makers in those companies are Scottish... last time I checked they were international institutions? Edited August 13, 2005 by DoubleBubbleTrouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Del,the day I am forced to stop making observations on the Human race, is the day Ill get off this planet. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dogbox , We'll all chip in to get you on here. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4139212.stm LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanewbie Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 I pitty your children you control freak.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Clearly, this person's opinions of any nation are of complete irrelevance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 What a load of unmitigated pants you are talking.How on earth can you reflect corporate policy upon a race is beyond me! Like France you mean? Thier love affair with employment rates is descimating employment. A company is simply a reflection of its workforce so the cultural traits of that workforce has everything to do with the sucess of a nations business. China or Japan attest to this. Scots tend to over - embrace regulation which is a direct cost. This must influence scottish employment levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleBubbleTrouble Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) Like France you mean? Thier love affair with employment rates is descimating employment.A company is simply a reflection of its workforce so the cultural traits of that workforce has everything to do with the sucess of a nations business. China or Japan attest to this. Scots tend to over - embrace regulation which is a direct cost. This must influence scottish employment levels. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well that really is utter utter utter pants I'm afraid. Your "point" about France reflects a nationwide political/regulatory situation across the whole country which is in no way comparable to Scotland vs the rest of Britain. I can assure you, having started 2 companies here in Scotland, that the regulatory principles are exactly the same for British companies whether they are based in Scotland or anywhere else in Britain. Regarding Japan, haven't they been in recession for the last 11 years... presumably that is their fault for all being Japanese? A company is a reflection of it's ethos and policies most often driven from board level. Look to America where you have radically different corporate environments, say Amazon or Google vs IBM or Lucent. You constantly have upstart newcomers with liberal and often gung ho approaches to business vs the bureaucratic monsters mired with stifling inefficency. To suggest that nominally Scottish international corporations such as Bank of Scotland or Royal Bank are inefficient because they have headquarters in Scotland is folly. It shows how little you really know about Scotland... have you ever actually been here? Or do you just sit around in the pub moaning about ignorant Jocko's and wondering whether we have electricity and schools yet? Edited August 13, 2005 by DoubleBubbleTrouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclwalker Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 (edited) To suggest that nominally Scottish international corporations such as Bank of Scotland or Royal Bank are inefficient because they have headquarters in Scotland is folly. It shows how little you really know about Scotland... have you ever actually been here? Or do you just sit around in the pub moaning about ignorant Jocko's and wondering whether we have electricity and schools yet?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL, you tell 'im! To be fair to dogbox, I think he was trying to go out of his way not to offend, but unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that he was talking complete rubbish. As for Scottish job losses, I would seriously doubt it has anything at all to do with relative efficiency. It's usually to do with having headquarters in the south east of England and having a choice of 'local' job cuts or 'distant' Scottish ones. They are going to choose Scottish jobs every time. The same happens if your employer (like my last one) has American headquarters. Remote sites are going to be targetted first. There are very few (large) company headquarters left in Scotland now, therefore, this is going to happen more and more. Edited August 14, 2005 by aclwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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New Darker Law Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Scotland ain't on your list! NDL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theChuz Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Scotland ain't on your list! NDL <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well aint that f*ing typical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearLite Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 H, Ive argued for some time that the Scots need to watch thier addiction to regulation and rule following as this all costs time and money.I have a number of savings and investments, some held with Scots companies. The Scots ones are ott when it comes to Money Laundering, in a way the English institutions arent. In terms of simple procedures the Scots again display rule addicition that gets in the way of me as a customer wanting quick simple transactions / advice. With customer security questions again they are ott. Where as my English Banks and savings companies will ask my name, dob and a couple of charaters from a password, the Scots typically ask 2 or 3 more questions - very annoying, and often all I need to know is something generic - ie not pertinent to my actual account. I suspect the Scots also take employment law to the enth degree which again isnt helpful when it comes to running a business. Lastly, I find them very robotic. Listen to any Scottish politician. You will find that they all 'fashion conform' in thier use of language (apart frheom Galloway). For example; "moving forward" "working in close partnership with" "we've put in place measures" "team building" "empowering people". Listen also to Scots call centre staff, again they are like little robot mimicks to a far higher degree than the English. So conformist to rules and dont think outside the box. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Mabye you would find it less annoying if you told the staff that you were asking a generic question. If it's typical that they ask you 2 or 3 more questions, surely you would be aware by now of how they work. Give it a go. They would probably listen and advise, then you wouldn't have to through said security questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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