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Does your company get paid for support?

We have a large support network and there are many mouths to feed. I assume yes for the moment. I think this is what they mean when they say the clients pay for their yearly licenses. I have asked the CTO if we charge for such things, now just have to wait until he loads up his MSN. We don't talk voice here, MSN is king, sad but true.

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We have a large support network and there are many mouths to feed. I assume yes for the moment. I think this is what they mean when they say the clients pay for their yearly licenses. I have asked the CTO if we charge for such things, now just have to wait until he loads up his MSN. We don't talk voice here, MSN is king, sad but true.

If you charge for support then there's a limiting benefit to spending time making your code perfect. There's obviously important exceptions to this. Notably, getting the architecture right is key.

This is how web businesses make their money. You wouldn't get away with it in embedded or old-school distributed software.

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If you charge for support then there's a limiting benefit to spending time making your code perfect. There's obviously important exceptions to this. Notably, getting the architecture right is key.

This is how web businesses make their money. You wouldn't get away with it in embedded or old-school distributed software.

I guess this is the concept that I find baffling at times. Especially seeing cost of the maintenance cycle here at my company. I understood it when we were first starting as there were only 4 of us and we had to rapidly develop software in order to win business, We use to code in C in those days and ended up with GOD function of over 10,000 lines (not my doing), with switches encapsulating further switches with if statements inside those followed by more switches. We still have this code as our base to this day.

We sell shrink wrapped type of software across the globe that should work on all computers, well at least the application interface. There are some modules that I understand cannot be done to their entirety but in general, our software here should be more reliable than it is. We have lost a few clients over the years due to these problems as delays in our department have a knock on effect onto their businesses. Also, we have the sale team promising the world to clients and expecting us to have developed this yesterday. I like the challenge but sometimes it's a bit over-the-top.

I have produced a reporting application that runs on .net with zero bugs left. We have got a testing team now and it feels remarkably better as the code was organised correctly and designed. We used to go for the cowboy approach. If people would like to see raw Agile development, they should apply to work here. :)

[edit : My grammer is shocking!!!]

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I guess this is the concept that I find baffling at times. Especially seeing cost of the maintenance cycle here at my company. I understood it when we were first starting as there were only 4 of us and we had to rapidly develop software in order to win business, We use to code in C in those days and ended up with GOD function of over 10,000 lines (not my doing), with switches encapsulating further switches with if statements inside those followed by more switches. We still have this code as our base to this day.

We sell shrink wrapped type of software across the globe that should work on all computers, well at least the application interface. There are some modules that I understand cannot be done to their entirety but in general, our software here should be more reliable than it is. We have lost a few clients over the years due to these problems as delays in our department have a knock on effect onto their businesses. Also, we have the sale team promising the world to clients and expecting us to have developed this yesterday. I like the challenge but sometimes it's a bit over-the-top.

I have produced a reporting application that runs on .net with zero bugs left. We have got a testing team now and it feels remarkably better as the code was organised correctly and designed. We used to go for the cowboy approach. If people would like to see raw Agile development, they should apply to work here. :)

[edit : My grammer is shocking!!!]

Can't speak for your business... I'm lucky in that I'm managed by techies who understand what's important and what's not. And also understand how to communicate the commercially important things to techies.

All the software engineering techniques you learn about in university is ********. As far as I'm concerned the whole Agile concept is a post-hoc justification for the anarchic hackery that goes on in any business.

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Um, no.

Lol.. Happens here. The boss told me that he is very unhappy about me leaving, that people in the company are worried that I'm looking for work and that I'm not allowed to talk to my colleagues about this or if I find a new job. I work in a funny company. They also talk about their reviews openly in my company and tell everyone what they get. It baffles me. I don't work for a traditional English company it seems.

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Would you be interested in a team of 4 developers, specialising in Java and some .NET? I have 4 lodgers all from Colombia who are in London to learn English for 1 year, they are experienced developers working for a reputable Colombian software company. They are limited to 20 hours per week on their visas but you could get 80 hours per week out of them and they don't want silly money. There english is very good, they develop in english.

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Lol.. Happens here. The boss told me that he is very unhappy about me leaving, that people in the company are worried that I'm looking for work and that I'm not allowed to talk to my colleagues about this or if I find a new job. I work in a funny company. They also talk about their reviews openly in my company and tell everyone what they get. It baffles me. I don't work for a traditional English company it seems.

Tell him you won't talk to anyone if you get the next 6 months' paid while you can work elsewhere. Otherwise tell him to c0ck off.

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Would you be interested in a team of 4 developers, specialising in Java and some .NET? I have 4 lodgers all from Colombia who are in London to learn English for 1 year, they are experienced developers working for a reputable Colombian software company. They are limited to 20 hours per week on their visas but you could get 80 hours per week out of them and they don't want silly money. There english is very good, they develop in english.

Erm, is this a joke? Suffice to say no, we're not interested in temp/casual workers.

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Erm, is this a joke? Suffice to say no, we're not interested in temp/casual workers.

I love the part where they are here to learn English and in the next sentence they a good understanding of the English language. This kind of negates why they are here in the first place.

Also, how can they work for a Columbian Company and also be seeking employment. The term, doesn't compute, comes to mind.

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I love the part where they are here to learn English and in the next sentence they a good understanding of the English language. This kind of negates why they are here in the first place.

Also, how can they work for a Columbian Company and also be seeking employment. The term, doesn't compute, comes to mind.

The phrase "you've got to pick a pocket or two" sprang to my mind...

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Sorry for the spam, but we're still hiring here and you could make me a few quid.

Anyone looking for work as a software developer can you PM me?

No specific requirements; you just need to be smart and have some knowledge/experience of development.

call me cynical but ... i'm a software developer who has also unfortunately had to develop an ability to spot time-wasters and "no specific requirements" rings that bell for me, sorry.

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The phrase "you've got to pick a pocket or two" sprang to my mind...

You got something against Colombians or foreigners? You've clearly pre-judged 4 very bright individuals, highly educated and skilled, who wish to better themselves. Maybe they could add huge value to your business. They are friends of my wife and very nice people. They can speak good english but as you may not know, english is a difficult language to speak correctly, especially business english. I was trying to help them out, and as you were asking for help, I offered their skills to you. Now I wish I hadn't as you are clearly a xenophobic tosser. Maybe you should ask for help through a recruitment agency instead of spamming the HPC forum. Offer withdrawn.

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You got something against Colombians or foreigners? You've clearly pre-judged 4 very bright individuals, highly educated and skilled, who wish to better themselves. Maybe they could add huge value to your business. They are friends of my wife and very nice people. They can speak good english but as you may not know, english is a difficult language to speak correctly, especially business english. I was trying to help them out, and as you were asking for help, I offered their skills to you. Now I wish I hadn't as you are clearly a xenophobic tosser. Maybe you should ask for help through a recruitment agency instead of spamming the HPC forum. Offer withdrawn.

Do you understand the significance of the phrase "you've got to pick a pocket or two"?

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And what's xenophobic about comparing you to Fagin?

Are you implying that I'm seducing some kids to work illegally. As I said, they have visas to work 20 hours per week. So you must be implying that your company is operating outside the law. And if that's not true then I would suggest you are a xenophobe for thinking that anyone from Colombia is an Oliver type thief.

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Now I wish I hadn't as you are clearly a xenophobic tosser.

Over the top dude. He talks to me just fine, I'm not from England either and I know the difference between a noun and a proper noun.

What I don't get, you said they have jobs already, they are on STUDENT VISAS, they shouldn't be seeking employment in the U.K. They can do part-time work but not full-time work. You'll find that in business, people don't want to invest in individuals that may leave the country at the end of their term.

A sad but true fact. So next time you start name calling think about it. ;)

Go to a recruitment agent then, see if they would be interested in the magnificant four. I have a position that they can take. My boss pays peasant wages, believe me and will happily take on 4 trainees (one's experience in this company doesn't matter).

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Are you implying that I'm seducing some kids to work illegally. As I said, they have visas to work 20 hours per week. So you must be implying that your company is operating outside the law. And if that's not true then I would suggest you are a xenophobe for thinking that anyone from Colombia is an Oliver type thief.

I don't know anything about them. This was about how what you posted sounded.

"I have 4 lodgers" ... "They are limited to 20 hours per week on their visas but you could get 80 hours per week out of them" ... "I offered you their skills" ... "Offer withdrawn"

Do you not realise how this sounds? They are supposed to find 80 hours a week (as well as studying English, and working for another company) to work at jobs you are "offering" them out for?

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I love the part where they are here to learn English and in the next sentence they a good understanding of the English language. This kind of negates why they are here in the first place.

Also, how can they work for a Columbian Company and also be seeking employment. The term, doesn't compute, comes to mind.

They all work for the same company in Colombia. Their company sent them to London to improve their English as they do alot of business with the US. As I'm sure you know, English is a difficult language to speak and write correctly.

Over the top dude. He talks to me just fine, I'm not from England either and I know the difference between a noun and a proper noun.

What I don't get, you said they have jobs already, they are on STUDENT VISAS, they shouldn't be seeking employment in the U.K. They can do part-time work but not full-time work. You'll find that in business, people don't want to invest in individuals that may leave the country at the end of their term.

A sad but true fact. So next time you start name calling think about it. ;)

Go to a recruitment agent then, see if they would be interested in the magnificant four. I have a position that they can take. My boss pays peasant wages, believe me and will happily take on 4 trainees (one's experience in this company doesn't matter).

They are all working part-time, (I never said they work full-time!), either cleaning or waitering, they are allowed to do this, up to 20 hours a week. They attend their school religiously.

I was just trying to help them out, I don't get anything out of it except some self-satisfaction. I wasn't expecting to be dismissed as a joke and questioning of there reasons and legality of being here. Oh and they are all certified, so they are not trainees!

It sounds like someone could give you a break too.

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I don't know anything about them. This was about how what you posted sounded.

Do you not realise how this sounds? They are supposed to find 80 hours a week (as well as studying English, and working for another company) to work at jobs you are "offering" them out for?

Ok, so we have a misunderstanding! I didn't mean 80 hours per week each! I meant there are 4 of them, and they can each work 20 hours. 4 x 20 = 80 hours! Now I get your Fagin comment! :D

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and questioning of there reasons and legality of being here. Oh and they are all certified, so they are not trainees!

I know that but that's how we employ. We also don't employ from the U.K. Not my choosing, ask my boss. He recruits from France only.

It sounds like someone could give you a break too.

I've been in the system for long enough to feel guilty that I earn much more that the new guys. You know how bad guilt is when you are in the pub and they offer you a beer. I cannot take their beer. It's just wrong.

I believe we control our own destiny and I'm on my way out. Got me a recruitment agent, need to get me an updated C.V. and find what the duke does interesting. So need to send my C.V. there.

Everyone deserves a break, indeed. No one employs temp IT engineers from what I know but there is alway someone.

Going home now, laters :)

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