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Yet Another Racist Attack

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Yet another Racist Attack in London.

Funny the BBC forgot to publish the fact that the Attacker was Black, wonder why?.

LIFE STYLE EXTRA (UK) - Murder squad detectives have identified the man they believe knifed Richard Whelan after trawling through CCTV footage from the No43 bus and a local petrol station.

Richard Whelan, 28, was knifed six times on a double decker bus as he returned home from a night out when he intervened when the suspect began throwing chips at his girlfriend last Friday, in Holloway, north London.

Mr Whelan, a hospitality agent from Kentish Town who sold tickets to events, followed his attacker downstairs after being stabbed but collapsed on the lower deck. He was taken to the nearby Whittington Hospital where he died about an hour later.

Today a police source said: "CCTV does form part of our inquiry. We have been studying CCTV from the bus and we have a strong line of inquiry we are following up.

"There is someone from CCTV that we will be looking for."

One witness to the slaying told how the killer walked away from his victim with a "gangster swagger" and casually demanded the bus driver to open the doors to let him off.

Jo Uttley, a 24 year-old press officer from North London who was sitting on the lower deck, said: "He just walked away down from the top deck with a gangster swagger as if it meant nothing to him. Some said he was grinning.

"He looked around the bus and demanded to be let off. He seemed to be unconnected to what happened. He behaved so calmly."

Ms Uttley told how just moments earlier passengers heard a thumping sound on the top deck the a girl screaming "get off him, get off him. Oh my God, what's he doing? Make him stop."

The attacker who she described as black or of mixed race in his 20s, then came down the stairs and got off the bus.

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There is no evidence that it was a racist attack. If I mugged a women would it be a sexist attack??

If I had a history of women hating and shouted "I f****** hate women" then fair play it would be.

It may or not have been, but I looked throuh articles including ones with his girlfriend being interviewed. Surely it would have been mentioned if the w***** had made racist comments.

If there was no evidence of racist abuse during the incident how can they report it???

I do see a lot of "positive discrimination" in the media which I stink is crazy, but I do not see how this is a good example.

And in the original article they gave a description of the attacker including the fact he was black.

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My point is there is no such thing as a racist attack.

Its a crime, and that should be it.

To start talking all the crap about Steven Lawrence, Neslon Mandela, and the plight of Africa when a Black Man has a crime commited against him is just complete and utter rubbish.

By constantly bringing up race every time a crime is commited against a so called ethnic minority is what is causing the split in our society. They are creating differences that did not exist.

We should just stick to the facts, a man was hit with an axe, and he died. It was a disgusting thing for someone to do, the fact that he was Black does not make it any more despicable. Its a crime, we have the culprits now the law must make sure those responsible are taken to task and if I had my way it would have been the death penalty. When the death penalty was removed it was promised that life would mean life.

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We should just stick to the facts, a man was hit with an axe, and he died. It was a disgusting thing for someone to do, the fact that he was Black does not make it any more despicable.

Of course it doesn't. However, if it can be proven that it was racially aggravated, then that's an entirely different matter.

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Why is it a different matter?.

What purpose is there in pretending that it was because he was black?.

The culprits were obviously sick people that Society continues to protect, I expect they have Criminal Records stretching back years and I bet you they are not all against Black People.

Society needs to start taking control, the liberals who defend the race laws are the very same people who have allowed these areswipes to roam our streets because prison is too tuff for them.

Put the Crims away and let the public get on with what they are good at, raising tax revenue to pay fatcat Government employees to sit on their backsides each day and waste money.

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Of course it doesn't.  However, if it can be proven that it was racially aggravated, then that's an entirely different matter.

I don't see it as being different either. People murder for a whole host of reasons or prejudices, and that at the end of the day is what racism is, a prejudice.

If somebody murdered another because he supported a different football team, and in another scenario murdered them because they were black, I see no difference. At the end of the day, a human being has been killed for no good reason. The second offence should not get a higher sentence IMO.

Defining attacks as racist and legislating for it in particular just adds credence to these sick individuals' actions and may be construed as racist itself.

We are all human beings at the end of the day.

NDL

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I also notice the BBC didn't put the attackers colour but if it he had been white and the victiom black it would be the first thing they wrote....................

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Hi laurejon and NDL

I agree with a lot of what you say. To hype the race issue counter productive. The sort of people who did this would have done the same to someone "who spilt their drink" or "looked at their bird". Also race legislation is an odd idea.

However I do not agree that racist crime does not exist. It is very real and i dont think it should be ignored as a part of crime reports and statistics. To sweep such a dangerous meme under the carpet is wrong.

If areas or groups of people are identified who follow the same dodgy ideology and are attacking/harming a particular group, we need to know about it. It provides evidence that there is a specific social problem, or even organisation that needs to be sorted out.

If we pretend islamist fundamentalists do not exist in a similar way "It was just some nutters" we would be in a weaker position to tackle it. finding out how they got indoctrinated etc. and how to stock UK muslims getting involved with the extremists is important.

I know there are some key differences between the scenarios, but what I am trying to get at is that recording such information can lead to a root problem

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But the inference is that white people are racists. Equally the opposite myth is exposed that all Black people are out to get you.

Once you start splitting things into groups and making it public then you have created a division. If we identified that Fat People were not being given jobs because they were Fat and passed laws to ensure they were given the jobs by way of positive discrimination then you have just created a division. The Guy gets the job he wanted but the rest of the office look on knowing he only got the job because he was Fat. He is therefore excluded to some extent from normality. He is living a lie in effect.

What purpose does it serve to know it was a racist attack, that the victim was chosen because of colour. Knowing this is going to stop it?.

Its already illegal to sink an axe into someones head and you dont have to be anything other than a member of the human race to understand it.

I know the people who drive this Racial Harmony thing think they know better but civilisations overs centuries have managed to come together without legislation and without division. London in the early Centuries as a sea port was a huge lure to people from all over the world.

I think it is those in Government who create the divisions with their own ignorance of the situation. And the reason they are ignorant is that they would not dream of living amongst people of various ethnic groups. They make sure they dont mix their children with them, and they make sure they do not socialise with them unless its on camera. In essence they are the last people we need preaching to us on how to live in harmony and love thy neighbour.

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No doubt this isn't a racist attack either...

CCTV tapes checked in hunt for rape gang

DETECTIVES are scouring CCTV tapes to try to catch a gang who snatched an 18-year-old girl from a busy Northampton street and raped her.

But police say that they still need the public's help to trace the rapist and his two accomplices who had earlier failed in an attempt to drag a 15-year-old girl into a Fiat Punto the early hours of Monday morning.

Just 45 minutes later they managed to bundle the 18-year-old into the back of a BMW before driving her to a secluded spot near Duston and raping her.

Detective Chief Inspector John Jones said: "We have already received a number of calls with information which are now being followed up but we still need more information.

"We are looking at CCTV in the area but we also need the public's help to track them down and I am asking anyone who was in the busy area of Sol Central on Sunday night or the early hours of Monday to contact us if they can help in any way."

A rape support group has warned women to be "vigilant and extremely careful" following the brutal sex attack.

An adviser from the Northampton Rape and Crisis Centre said: "We must do everything we can to protect ourselves.

"Don't go anywhere on your own and carry a safety device. You have got to be so careful."

Police were first alerted at about 12.45am on Monday, when the 15-year-old was walking along Doddridge Street, Northampton, and approached by two black men in a Fiat Punto.

They tried to drag her into their car but she fought back and ran away.

Just 45 minutes later the 18-year-old was walking along Horsemarket when a black man in a blue 7-series BMW with cream leather seats stopped her and began to talk to her.

Parked behind this car was a white or silver Fiat Punto with two black men inside.

As they talked a man from the Fiat shoved her into the BMW, climbing in behind her as the car was driven away.

The car stopped in Harborough Road where the man from the Fiat got out of the car and left.

The woman was then driven to Nobottle Road in Duston where she was raped by the driver.

Anyone with any information can call police on Northampton 700700 or Crimestoppers on 0800 55511.

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What is it with blacks and the gangster lean shit? Did you know more black men are in prison than in higher education? I don't think this was a racist attack as such, its more than likely the muppet who knifed him, listens to rap music and smokes blunts though. He is living what they rap about. Some might call it brainwashing, some might call it choice. Either way, its a shit culture for the most part.

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Residents’ horror at street sex attack By Jo Mason

RESIDENTS of a Stafford street have expressed their horror and shock in the wake of a sex attack on a 21-year-old woman.

Officers from Stafford CID are appealing to the public for their help in tracing a man following the attack on Saturday evening on Burton Manor Road.

  The woman, who was walking home from work at around 11pm, was grabbed and forced into a secluded garden where she was assaulted.

  She had been followed by the man, who had tried to talk to her at Rowley Bank, as she walked along Wolverhampton Road. He pounced on her as she turned into Burton Manor Road.

  After the incident the attacker fled through gardens up the road, away from Wolverhampton Road.

  The man is described as being Asian, around 5 feet 7 inches tall and of average build, between 25 and 35 years old, with black hair which was short at the sides and longer on top, possibly spiked with gel, and no facial hair.

  He was wearing a white long sleeved top with a round neck and a chequered design on the chest, smart jeans and dark boots, and had a strong Indian type accent and spoke poor English.

  DC Tim Faux from Stafford CID said: "We are appealing for witnesses who saw the incident, the two people walking from Stafford, or anyone fitting the description of the man after the incident in Burton Manor Road to contact Stafford CID on 01785 234931.

  "The young woman who was badly shaken but did not require hospital treatment, is of slim build with shoulder length dark brown hair and was wearing a smart pin striped suit jacket and a calf length skirt at the time of the incident."

  Resident Lesley Morgan, 49, said she was shocked such a thing could happen so close to her home.

  She said: "I saw police outside but thought it must have been a burglary or something. I never imagined anything like this would happen here. It’s such a quiet street."

  Elsie Kirkwood said she regularly walks along the road from the bus stop to her friends house. She said: "It is very worrying."

  Another resident said he had seen police cars and the helicopter overhead on Saturday night.

  He said: "I’m very shocked. This is a quiet neighbourhood and you don’t expect things like this to happen."

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Father's fury at serial sex pest Aug 3 2005

By Richard Crowe

 

THE FATHER of a girl whose life was "ruined" by a Wokingham sex pest says the offender should have been sent to jail.

Tangui Dernaucourt, of Sturges Road, admitted exposing himself to a number of girls and women over a six-month period.

But on Thursday at East Berkshire Magistrates' Court in Slough the 32-year-old was ordered to pay £200 compensation, and given a three-month community rehabilitation order with the condition he attends a Thames Valley sex offenders' project.

But speaking exclusively to the News afterwards, the father of a 15-year-old victim said the sentence was "a joke" and that his daughter had been severely traumatised by the incident.

He said: "£200 doesn't sort out anything. The message is that people can do it and get away with it.

"I would have thought that he would have at least got the six months the magistrates had the power to give him."

He said being in a prison regime would have taught Dernaucourt a much better lesson.

He added: "This was never done for the money. This sentence is not going to cure my daughter's sleepless nights, the time off school or the constant headaches."

"She is a very attractive girl but the early part of her life has been ruined by an idiot."

In court, prosecutor Ola Jesuwemimo repeated evidence given at an earlier hearing that Dernaucourt exposed himself to the 15-year-old girl in Wellington Road, Wokingham, at 12.30pm on March 31.

The same girl spotted Dernaucourt on April 29, and told her father, who restrained Dernaucourt before police arrested him.

The court heard Dernaucourt also exposed himself to an 18-year-old woman as she walked along Wellington Road at 8.50am on March 23.

In a police interview, he admitted exposing himself to a 23-year-old woman in Winnersh on March 3 and a 35-year-old woman in Sturges Road, Wokingham, on October 3.

Ms Jesuwemimo said Dernau-court broke down in tears in the interview and said how sorry and ashamed he was for what he had done.

Graham Bennett, defending, urged magistrates to take into consideration apre-sentencereportand a letter of support from his employer.

Magistrate Joan Horton told Dernaucourt: "Had you not pleaded guilty at an earlier hearing you would have been facing a custodial sentence."

She warned him he faced a return to court if he failed to comply with the order or did not satisfactorily complete the sex offenders' course.

He was placed on the sex offenders' register and ordered to pay £200 compensation to the 15-year-old victim and £100 to the 18-year-old victim and court costs of £43.

She said: "We have awarded high compensation to the 15-year-old because she was clearly distressed by this offence."

£200 high compensation??? FFS. :angry:

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