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was such a tree really necessary? what would be wrong with a tree costing £100 or even £20? what is wrong with the culture of these civil servants who think they can spend OUR TAX MONEY on non essentials. in my old office we had a whip round to pay for the decorations + we were mostly on low wages (going back to the 80s now when i first left school)

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23783679-fury-at-pound-2500-christmas-tree-in-health-dept.do

dept for health / nhs - all the same

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the tree probably did not cost that much but they had a white house moment, (after the British and Canadians burnt down the white house) they sought to rebuild it as quickly as possible.

The person tasked with rebuilding it would go to a carpenters and ask, how much is a chair? $2 the carpenter would say, surely you mean $40, oh yes $40, at which the government would buy the chair for $40, the carpenter gets to keep $18 and the person procuring the supply would pocket $20 too.

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was such a tree really necessary? what would be wrong with a tree costing £100 or even £20? what is wrong with the culture of these civil servants who think they can spend OUR TAX MONEY on non essentials. in my old office we had a whip round to pay for the decorations + we were mostly on low wages (going back to the 80s now when i first left school)

http://www.thisislon...-health-dept.do

dept for health / nhs - all the same

having a nice tree in every ward helps patients get better.

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This is what they mean when they say they're spending more on the NHS folks!!

I'm a pharmacist. When I first qualified 25 years ago part of our duties were to make up creams, suspensions etc. to simple formulae. Now we have to send them off to some secret location in Hertfordshire to be made up by a team of skilled Oompah Loompahs. Last week I saw a prescription for 500g 50% Betnovate in Ung Merck, invoiced at £520!! :angry: It would have cost the NHS about £20 when the pharmacist had to make it up.

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This is what they mean when they say they're spending more on the NHS folks!!

I'm a pharmacist. When I first qualified 25 years ago part of our duties were to make up creams, suspensions etc. to simple formulae. Now we have to send them off to some secret location in Hertfordshire to be made up by a team of skilled Oompah Loompahs. Last week I saw a prescription for 500g 50% Betnovate in Ung Merck, invoiced at £520!! :angry: It would have cost the NHS about £20 when the pharmacist had to make it up.

city link were doing intra ward deliveries at Colchester.

they pick em up Monday, deliver to another department by 9AM Tuesday....

Saw the delivery sheet myself.

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This is what they mean when they say they're spending more on the NHS folks!!

I'm a pharmacist. When I first qualified 25 years ago part of our duties were to make up creams, suspensions etc. to simple formulae. Now we have to send them off to some secret location in Hertfordshire to be made up by a team of skilled Oompah Loompahs. Last week I saw a prescription for 500g 50% Betnovate in Ung Merck, invoiced at £520!! :angry: It would have cost the NHS about £20 when the pharmacist had to make it up.

Is that recent? When I worked in pharmacy software (Nexphase if you're interested) we had a facility for making extemps on the application. Pointlessly wasteful, unless that the whole point? Deskill the workforce so you only need half qualified dispensers on site.

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This is what they mean when they say they're spending more on the NHS folks!!

I'm a pharmacist. When I first qualified 25 years ago part of our duties were to make up creams, suspensions etc. to simple formulae. Now we have to send them off to some secret location in Hertfordshire to be made up by a team of skilled Oompah Loompahs. Last week I saw a prescription for 500g 50% Betnovate in Ung Merck, invoiced at £520!! :angry: It would have cost the NHS about £20 when the pharmacist had to make it up.

There's a lot of that sort of thing about, very suspect.

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This is what they mean when they say they're spending more on the NHS folks!!

I'm a pharmacist. When I first qualified 25 years ago part of our duties were to make up creams, suspensions etc. to simple formulae. Now we have to send them off to some secret location in Hertfordshire to be made up by a team of skilled Oompah Loompahs. Last week I saw a prescription for 500g 50% Betnovate in Ung Merck, invoiced at £520!! :angry: It would have cost the NHS about £20 when the pharmacist had to make it up.

city link were doing intra ward deliveries at Colchester.

they pick em up Monday, deliver to another department by 9AM Tuesday....

Saw the delivery sheet myself.

And yet the central plank of the Nu Fascist manifesto will be to protect exactly this sort of waste. :angry:

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This is what they mean when they say they're spending more on the NHS folks!!

I'm a pharmacist. When I first qualified 25 years ago part of our duties were to make up creams, suspensions etc. to simple formulae. Now we have to send them off to some secret location in Hertfordshire to be made up by a team of skilled Oompah Loompahs. Last week I saw a prescription for 500g 50% Betnovate in Ung Merck, invoiced at £520!! :angry: It would have cost the NHS about £20 when the pharmacist had to make it up.

They need a load more Management Consultants to sort this one out for sure.

Then some Management Consultants to manage those Management Consultants and then some...................

I worked for the NHS and saw crap like this every day.

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was such a tree really necessary? what would be wrong with a tree costing £100 or even £20? what is wrong with the culture of these civil servants who think they can spend OUR TAX MONEY on non essentials. in my old office we had a whip round to pay for the decorations + we were mostly on low wages (going back to the 80s now when i first left school)

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23783679-fury-at-pound-2500-christmas-tree-in-health-dept.do

dept for health / nhs - all the same

This tree was for the civil servants at the offices at dept of health not for the NHS.

They are not the same. The NHS is tasked to deliver health care and the dept of health is tasked to obstruct the NHS and dispense propaganda.

In our hospital Xmas decorations have been banned (infection risk :lol: ) In another I work at the staff bought the decoration out of funds gifted to the department.

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Having just been turned down on the NHS for some fairly urgent treatment (on pretty nebulous grounds I may add), imagine my surprise to find that the approximate cost of the treatment (yes, it's time to go private) would get me this Xmas tree. Opportunity costs, Xmas tree or medical treatment, I think we all know the answer to that one?

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This tree was for the civil servants at the offices at dept of health not for the NHS.

They are not the same. The NHS is tasked to deliver health care and the dept of health is tasked to obstruct the NHS and dispense propaganda.

:lol:

in all seriousness i dont believe seasonal decorations in office buildings should be paid for by tax money, if its not essential to keeping the building + staff safe + sound then its superfluous. if the staff want decorations, then they can pay themselves.

this tree did not go to cheer up patients in wards. even there it could be contentious since not everyone finds xmas decs cheerful or valid, other religions + atheists etc may even find them irritating. if it were me, i'd be upset to be reminded by the tinsel et al of being stuck in hospital at a time of year when others are enjoying parties etc

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Having just been turned down on the NHS for some fairly urgent treatment (on pretty nebulous grounds I may add), imagine my surprise to find that the approximate cost of the treatment (yes, it's time to go private) would get me this Xmas tree. Opportunity costs, Xmas tree or medical treatment, I think we all know the answer to that one?

I suggest you stop paying tax & NI asap.

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was such a tree really necessary? what would be wrong with a tree costing £100 or even £20? what is wrong with the culture of these civil servants who think they can spend OUR TAX MONEY on non essentials. in my old office we had a whip round to pay for the decorations + we were mostly on low wages (going back to the 80s now when i first left school)

http://www.thisislon...-health-dept.do

dept for health / nhs - all the same

£2500 for a tree? They must be mental.

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This is what they mean when they say they're spending more on the NHS folks!!

I'm a pharmacist. When I first qualified 25 years ago part of our duties were to make up creams, suspensions etc. to simple formulae. Now we have to send them off to some secret location in Hertfordshire to be made up by a team of skilled Oompah Loompahs. Last week I saw a prescription for 500g 50% Betnovate in Ung Merck, invoiced at £520!! :angry: It would have cost the NHS about £20 when the pharmacist had to make it up.

That is shocking, really awful. Not least because it completely contradicts the economic advantage of specialisation and competetive procurement.

Is all of our economy a sham? Have the private sector companies supplying our Hospitals been [rofiteering at the expense of the taxpayer? What leeches!

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was such a tree really necessary? what would be wrong with a tree costing £100 or even £20? what is wrong with the culture of these civil servants who think they can spend OUR TAX MONEY on non essentials. in my old office we had a whip round to pay for the decorations + we were mostly on low wages (going back to the 80s now when i first left school)

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23783679-fury-at-pound-2500-christmas-tree-in-health-dept.do

dept for health / nhs - all the same

thats 2.5K going into the wider economy once again highlighting the productive nature of the public sector, get rid of the private sector parasites wanting to keep some money after taxes and they may well have been able to circulate 3.5K

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This tree was for the civil servants at the offices at dept of health not for the NHS.

They are not the same. The NHS is tasked to deliver health care and the dept of health is tasked to obstruct the NHS and dispense propaganda.

In our hospital Xmas decorations have been banned (infection risk :lol: ) In another I work at the staff bought the decoration out of funds gifted to the department.

THIS

The Department for Health is full of waste - the NHS would be so much better off without it.

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It works like this, and not just the NHS>

You are careful spending your own money.

You are less careful spending someone else's money from a person you know.

You are careless when spending someone else's money from people you will never know personally, or never will hold you to account directly.

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That is shocking, really awful. Not least because it completely contradicts the economic advantage of specialisation and competetive procurement.

Tip of the iceberg, mate. I work as a pharmacist locum and it's the same wherever you go. The pharmacy owners get a percentage of the cost, so are happy to go along with it. In fact, you could argue that it is to their advantage to shop around for the most expensive quote! I should add that I have no evidence that anyone has done that and that the Royal Pharmaceutical Society would take a very dim view if someone did, but the taxpayer is getting ripped off. It might be worth remembering that the next time your elderly relative is refused expensive drugs for dementia because he/she doesn't have the right postcode.

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Actually, it was £50 for the tree, £100 for the order raising, £150 to pay the invoice.

Then there was offloading and moving to the site, £200.

the site was chosen by committee £1000, and passed the H&S for Risk assessment £500

The workmen hired a crane and electrician for the erection and lighting £350+VAT.

Once erected, scaffold for the electricians and bauble placement teams £350+VAT

then there was the official "Lighting of the tree" ceremony attended by the Lord Mayor and carnival Queen. ( Buffet lunch for 300 £1000)

The press release and staff circulations £150.

nearer £10K by my reckoning.

(No patients were cured during this process).

Oh yeah, the fairy at the top of the tree is still the Prime minister.

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