loginandtonic Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 First edition of this book (note that subsequent editions go for a lot, lot less!) eBay virtual auction £30K or offer http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DARWIN-ON-THE-ORIGIN-OF-SPECIES-1ST-UK-EDITION-1859_W0QQitemZ310162340619QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Collectables_Scientific_MJ?hash=item48371dbb0b £103K new record at physical auction (double the previous £60K record in April) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/8378008.stm is the condition so much better to merit nearly 4x the price? or is it simply christie's has a clientele which can turn their nose up at things listed on eBay? is there some stigma? comments welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosto_zabrevi Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Shhhhhh Buy it, flip it at the next auction of such things You could make a handy profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginandtonic Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Shhhhhh Buy it, flip it at the next auction of such things You could make a handy profit i doubt i have the knowhow to make a good margin, i could find myself in a bind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosto_zabrevi Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Get some spine, if you can buy it at a quarto of the potential auction price it is bound to be a valuable part of your folio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginandtonic Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Get some spine, if you can buy it at a quarto of the potential auction price it is bound to be a valuable part of your folio very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 World of difference between these two copies. Expensive one is in the original publishers cloth. The cheaper one in a nondescript library style binding. Buyers want a landmark book such as this in as near as possible the condition the first owner received it in upon first purchase. The binding is as much part of the book as the text. The high value book world is one where a missing dustwrapper on a desirable modern first edition can knock 2/3 or more off the value. People have paid hundreds of pounds simply to get the correct dustwrapper to put on a valuable wrapperless copy of the relevant book. I saw a late low value reprint of Brave New World fetch £80 recently because somebody wanted the famously striking wrapper for their copy of the true first edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosto_zabrevi Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I have had a glance at the ebay photos and listing. I am sure the seller would have it sent to a regular auction in a sniff if he thought he could get anything like 100k for it. I should start getting out to jumble sales again 'Bible you say? Millions of 'em about! Printed by some bloke called Gutenberg? Well, a quid then' edited for speeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginandtonic Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 World of difference between these two copies. Expensive one is in the original publishers cloth. The cheaper one in a nondescript library style binding. Buyers want a landmark book such as this in as near as possible the condition the first owner received it in upon first purchase. The binding is as much part of the book as the text. The high value book world is one where a missing dustwrapper on a desirable modern first edition can knock 2/3 or more off the value. People have paid hundreds of pounds simply to get the correct dustwrapper to put on a valuable wrapperless copy of the relevant book. I saw a late low value reprint of Brave New World fetch £80 recently because somebody wanted the famously striking wrapper for their copy of the true first edition. + the late low value reprint jacket is acceptable to the owner of a 1st ed? you learn something new every day, thx for that, didnt ever realise before. I have had a glance at the ebay photos and listing. I am sure the seller would have it sent to a regular auction in a sniff if he thought he could get anything like 100k for it. I should start getting out to jumble sames again 'Bible you say? Millions of 'em about! Printed by some bloke called Gutenberg? Well, a quid then' i've come across that darwin book, probably a 5th or 6th ed in the past in london + baulked at the £50 they wanted, i think now they are fetching 2 to 400 smackers at even a provincial sale room ! wasnt that long ago either. wonder why the price is going up so fast lately. the way things are going i'll have to sell my delia smith autographed cookery book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erat_forte Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 The lavatory one had its original publishers binding in good nick. The ebay one has an aftermarket binding in really poor condition. That alone might be enough to make up the price difference. But theres a BBC link on the side to another that sold for 35k in April... at a Norwich auction. Publishers binding too. Perhaps it is the London factor. I think it's a shame they didn't just keep it in the lav, I like it when these valuable treasures are out there doing good work in ordinary situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginandtonic Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 I think it's a shame they didn't just keep it in the lav, I like it when these valuable treasures are out there doing good work in ordinary situations. well, if the roll runs out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchbux Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 World of difference between these two copies. Expensive one is in the original publishers cloth. The cheaper one in a nondescript library style binding. Buyers want a landmark book such as this in as near as possible the condition the first owner received it in upon first purchase. The binding is as much part of the book as the text. The high value book world is one where a missing dustwrapper on a desirable modern first edition can knock 2/3 or more off the value. People have paid hundreds of pounds simply to get the correct dustwrapper to put on a valuable wrapperless copy of the relevant book. I saw a late low value reprint of Brave New World fetch £80 recently because somebody wanted the famously striking wrapper for their copy of the true first edition. Interesting! How knowledgable are you on values of rare first edition books? Last year Amazon sent me a first edition of a book I had pre-ordered, before the actual publication date. Days later it was withdrawn for 'legal reasons', and a second edition hurriedly created. I managed to get it signed, undedicated, by the author earlier this year who minutes earlier had joked than if anyone had got the first edition 'hang on to it because they are as rare as the first Harry Potter'. It's no future literary classic, so I wondered if now may be a good time to flog it, or whether it is worth hanging on to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erat_forte Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Interesting! How knowledgable are you on values of rare first edition books? Last year Amazon sent me a first edition of a book I had pre-ordered, before the actual publication date. Days later it was withdrawn for 'legal reasons', and a second edition hurriedly created. I managed to get it signed, undedicated, by the author earlier this year who minutes earlier had joked than if anyone had got the first edition 'hang on to it because they are as rare as the first Harry Potter'. It's no future literary classic, so I wondered if now may be a good time to flog it, or whether it is worth hanging on to. Depends what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchbux Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Depends what it is? Autobiography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 + the late low value reprint jacket is acceptable to the owner of a 1st ed? If the dustwrapper used on a later edition is absolutely identical to the first, who will know the difference?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Autobiography I imagine the person is important. I am just watching Lenny Henry advertising Premier Inn - not him I hope ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchbux Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I imagine the person is important. I am just watching Lenny Henry advertising Premier Inn - not him I hope ? Not very, (and no not LH). Which is why I'm thinking selling now might be a good idea. Unless there are people who buy books just for their rarity rather than their title and content? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.C. Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I imagine the person is important. I am just watching Lenny Henry advertising Premier Inn - not him I hope ? Palin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchbux Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Palin? Male and white but otherwise still very cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginandtonic Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 Male and white but otherwise still very cold. JR Hartley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoto Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Male and white but otherwise still very cold. Why the secrecy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Cook Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 First edition of this book (note that subsequent editions go for a lot, lot less!) eBay virtual auction £30K or offer http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item48371dbb0b £103K new record at physical auction (double the previous £60K record in April) http://news.bbc.co.u...ire/8378008.stm is the condition so much better to merit nearly 4x the price? or is it simply christie's has a clientele which can turn their nose up at things listed on eBay? is there some stigma? comments welcome The reason it went for so much is because it was a first edition of a book that was written by arguably the greatest man that has ever lived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchbux Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Why the secrecy? If anyone guesses I'll admit to having bought and read this book, but I'm not going to willingly hold myself up for ridicule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indebted Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 If anyone guesses I'll admit to having bought and read this book, but I'm not going to willingly hold myself up for ridicule. Was it James Martin (snigger)??!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skinty Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 If anyone guesses I'll admit to having bought and read this book, but I'm not going to willingly hold myself up for ridicule. DAVID HASSELHOFF!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchbux Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Was it James Martin (snigger)??!!!!! Guilty as charged! Be gentle with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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