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NO surprise there !!

Scotland is totally anti Tory ,memories of Thatcherism run very very deep

the Lib Dems are seen as to wishy washy

Its a straight fight between the SNP and Nu Lab

even tho Nu Lab is a polar opposite to what the traditional Labour party was

It is still regarded by the muppets as the closest thing to socialism

UKIP and the BNP just dont come into the Scottish psyche

Independence here we come !!! :lol:

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NO surprise there !!

Scotland is totally anti Tory ,memories of Thatcherism run very very deep

the Lib Dems are seen as to wishy washy

Its a straight fight between the SNP and Nu Lab

even tho Nu Lab is a polar opposite to what the traditional Labour party was

It is still regarded by the muppets as the closest thing to socialism

UKIP and the BNP just dont come into the Scottish psyche

Independence here we come !!! :lol:

No Scotland is just anti-english, not anti tory. Simple mistake, I want them to gain full independence and the welsh too.

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No Scotland is just anti-english, not anti tory. Simple mistake, I want them to gain full independence and the welsh too.

Your wrong. We are Anti tory. I want full independence where you lot cover all the debt and we have a clean slate...otherwise no thanks and we keep the deal we have wehere we get more per head.

where's my napkin...im hungry.

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I recall loads of Edinburghers driving round with "Rise Now and Be a Nation Again" car stickers, courtesy of the Scottish Sun. Definitely had / ?has? Scots Nat sympathies.

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No Scotland is just anti-english, not anti tory. Simple mistake, I want them to gain full independence and the welsh too.

have a look around Ibrox and a few other stadiums in Scotland

and you'll see plenty of Union flags and pro Union sympathisers

It was only a couple of yrs ago that the head of the Orange Order in Scotland

warned (threatened) the people that leaving the UK would result in civil war

It wouldnt imo but there will be a few tears shed in many a Lodge

over removing the English lips from our nipple

your welkom to come up for a wee sookie anytime

we'll just have to charge you now

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Most Scots are Unionists, if it wasn't for the hordes of Catholic Irish that came here in the last century and a half there would be almost no support for disolving the Union. In fact the Labour party relies on the same electorate.

The Tory party was the majority party in Scotland for generations until the sixties. If we grew a pair of balls again as a nation and got some good candidates then Scotland could elect a Tory majority. Unfortunately good quality people stay away from politics and the type that do get involved alianate the voters.

they could have stayed in their OWN country if they werent being starved out of it

there was NO famine !!!

there was record quotas of pork ,beef and wheat at that time

It was ethnic cleansing pure and simple

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Most Scots are Unionists, if it wasn't for the hordes of Catholic Irish that came here in the last century and a half there would be almost no support for disolving the Union. In fact the Labour party relies on the same electorate.

The Tory party was the majority party in Scotland for generations until the sixties. If we grew a pair of balls again as a nation and got some good candidates then Scotland could elect a Tory majority. Unfortunately good quality people stay away from politics and the type that do get involved alianate the voters.

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Well that worked, they ended up over here as well as over there. The most ineffective ethnic cleansing in history? :blink:

I dont think you have any idea about Irish history whatsoever

and your anti Catholic rhetoric is no different from BNP racism

the UK used to be 100 % Catholic until Henry 8th

needed his own version of the Sharia marriage laws

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Well that worked, they ended up over here as well as over there. The most ineffective ethnic cleansing in history? :blink:

oh , and 1 more point at that time Ireland was part of the UK

they were BRITISH subjects

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1888,

You need to keep in mind that many of my english compatriots know precious little about english history.

It is not only americans who have no idea that Scotland, Wales and Ireland are separate countries.

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1888,

I've just read some of your posts in this thread and by your user name it is obvious you sympathise with the great unwashed that fill the stands of the San Giro. Like them, your perspective on life will be forever distorted by your bitter folk memory of things you should have left behind generations ago. Chritianity is about forgiveness - ditch your anti English, anti tory, anti british, anti protestant prejudice and your life will be happier and more fulfilled.

Peace and love.

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1888,

I've just read some of your posts in this thread and by your user name it is obvious you sympathise with the great unwashed that fill the stands of the San Giro. Like them, your perspective on life will be forever distorted by your bitter folk memory of things you should have left behind generations ago. Chritianity is about forgiveness - ditch your anti English, anti tory, anti british, anti protestant prejudice and your life will be happier and more fulfilled.

Peace and love.

:lol::lol::lol:

I work for the UK armed forces at Nato HQ

half my family are protestants

did you read the thread where I condemned the IRA

you must still be hurting after My Papish brothers from Seville pumped you

at the stade du Bigot last night

that club that refused to sign UK Catholics for 120 yrs

love and kisses - pump you Sunday :P

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Most Scots are Unionists, if it wasn't for the hordes of Catholic Irish that came here in the last century and a half there would be almost no support for disolving the Union. In fact the Labour party relies on the same electorate.

The Tory party was the majority party in Scotland for generations until the sixties. If we grew a pair of balls again as a nation and got some good candidates then Scotland could elect a Tory majority. Unfortunately good quality people stay away from politics and the type that do get involved alianate the voters.

What ill-informed nonsense. If you knew anything about Scottish politics, you'd know that SNP supporters have jibed the descendents of the Catholic Irish for supporting the Unionist Labour party, while their ancestors and cousins were supported independence for Ireland.

This is because the Scottish Nationalist movement was anti-irish immigration a long while back - and that hasn't been forgotten by many in the Labour supporting communities that were so heavily settled by Catholic migrants from Ireland and the Highlands.

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What ill-informed nonsense. If you knew anything about Scottish politics, you'd know that SNP supporters have jibed the descendents of the Catholic Irish for supporting the Unionist Labour party, when they're ancestors were supporting independence for Ireland.

This is because the Scottish Nationalist movement was anti-irish immigration a long while back - and that hasn't been forgotten by many in the Labour supporting communities that were so heavily settled by Catholic migrants from Ireland and the Highlands.

gruffydd

You need to keep in mind that many of my Scottish compatriots know precious little about Scottish history.

It is not only americans who have no idea that Scotland, Wales and Ireland are separate countries.

;)

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have a look around Ibrox and a few other stadiums in Scotland

and you'll see plenty of Union flags and pro Union sympathisers

It was only a couple of yrs ago that the head of the Orange Order in Scotland

warned (threatened) the people that leaving the UK would result in civil war

It wouldnt imo but there will be a few tears shed in many a Lodge

over removing the English lips from our nipple

your welkom to come up for a wee sookie anytime

we'll just have to charge you now

When I lived in Scotland, and mixed with quite a few Orangmen, many of them had roots back in protestant Ireland - and came over to Scotland for the shipbuilding, etc.

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gruffydd

You need to keep in mind that many of my Scottish compatriots know precious little about Scottish history.

It is not only americans who have no idea that Scotland, Wales and Ireland are separate countries.

;)

Pretty depressing really!

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What ill-informed nonsense. If you knew anything about Scottish politics, you'd know that SNP supporters have jibed the descendents of the Catholic Irish for supporting the Unionist Labour party, while their ancestors and cousins were supported independence for Ireland.

This is because the Scottish Nationalist movement was anti-irish immigration a long while back - and that hasn't been forgotten by many in the Labour supporting communities that were so heavily settled by Catholic migrants from Ireland and the Highlands.

My opinions may be ill-informed nonsense but I do not believe them to be so. How many Tory voting Celtic supporters are there? Labour may have Unionist sympathies for selfish party reasons but that doesn't stop their supporters harbouring bitter, twisted anti-English beliefs.

You may have enjoyed Braveheart, the movie, I thought it was a sickening load of racist tosh. It went down a storm with many of my fellow countrymen because it was so anti-English. Where does this infantile hatred come from?

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My opinions may be ill-informed nonsense but I do not believe them to be so. How many Tory voting Celtic supporters are there? Labour may have Unionist sympathies for selfish party reasons but that doesn't stop their supporters harbouring bitter, twisted anti-English beliefs.

You may have enjoyed Braveheart, the movie, I thought it was a sickening load of racist tosh. It went down a storm with many of my fellow countrymen because it was so anti-English. Where does this infantile hatred come from?

I have no idea how many Celtic supporters vote Tory - I doubt many do seeing that Glaswegians generally don't appear to like the Tories very much. I suspect the majority of them vote for unionist parties, though this is changing fast... http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn41...2/ai_n13939146/

In the light of the “keep Scotland protestant- vote SNP†leaflets that were reputedly circulating in the West of Scotland, a few years ago (not endorsed by the leadership I might add), I wonder whether Rangers fans may have historically been keener than Celtic fans on getting a divorce with England.

"In the 1997 general election, analysed by Professor Alice Brown and others at Edinburgh University, shows that Labour attracted 66% of the Catholic vote. Only eight per cent went to the SNP"

If you're a Scot, you'll surely realise that the SNP were widely seen as being rooted in "lower middle-class Presbyterian" society for many many years. Haven't you heard the joke about SNP standing for Sorry No Papists :ph34r:

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"the UK used to be 100 % Catholic until Henry 8th

needed his own version of the Sharia marriage laws"

I think you will find that the split from Rome had more to do with the realisation that it was probably better for the Church in England to be run from Canterbury in the English interest rather than from Rome in the ... err ... Spanish interest.

When Henry VIII asked Pope Clement VII to quash his marriage to Catherine of Aragon, the Pope was the prisoner of Chares V, King of Spain, who could see the upside in a distracted and hopefully in due course destabilised England and probably wanted to stand by his auntie Catherine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Aragon

Popes were only too happy to annul the marriages of Kings back then provided it was consistent with their own interest.

Seems to me you're the one who is not too up on his history.

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