bingobob777 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 This'll cost me 1k a year, lovely. Free childcare for mothers dossing about the house, allowing them to go shopping and watch the TV. Take the tax breaks away from mothers actually out working. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8279701.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 This'll cost me 1k a year, lovely.Free childcare for mothers dossing about the house, allowing them to go shopping and watch the TV. Take the tax breaks away from mothers actually out working. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8279701.stm Sorry, but if you're not poor then obviously you're not a Labour voter so will get shafted at every turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Storm Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 This'll cost me 1k a year, lovely.Free childcare for mothers dossing about the house, allowing them to go shopping and watch the TV. Take the tax breaks away from mothers actually out working. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8279701.stm Hmmm its a tricky one. If the poorer family goes to work and stops claiming benefits, doesnt that pay for itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imminent_plunge Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 At the same time, making informal childcare arrangements illegal, ie I cannot look after my neighbour's child and vice versa in a reciprocal agreement that enables us both the opportunity to work and pay tax without spending money on childcare. Nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Bear Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 At the same time, making informal childcare arrangements illegal, ie I cannot look after my neighbour's child and vice versa in a reciprocal agreement that enables us both the opportunity to work and pay tax without spending money on childcare. Nice one. But if you do informal child care no money changes hands. If you pay for childcare money changes hands and some tax is generated. Simple? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hmmm its a tricky one. If the poorer family goes to work and stops claiming benefits, doesnt that pay for itself? It might if the low paid are taken out of the first £10k of tax, as advocated by the Libs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Prudence Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hmmm its a tricky one. If the poorer family goes to work and stops claiming benefits, doesnt that pay for itself? It is for 10 hours a week to be brought in within 5 years. Complete and utterly cynical spin. For the mother to work only 10 hours a week she would be working for free because the marginal rate of tax for people on benefit is close to 100%. She would lose in benefit everything she earned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imminent_plunge Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 But if you do informal child care no money changes hands. If you pay for childcare money changes hands and some tax is generated. Simple? Not really. If a mother is given informal childcare and can hold down a job, pay taxes etc. is that not infinitely preferable to her remaining on benefits? Many people can only afford to work because of informal arrangements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Bear Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Not really. If a mother is given informal childcare and can hold down a job, pay taxes etc. is that not infinitely preferable to her remaining on benefits? Many people can only afford to work because of informal arrangements. True, taxes will be paid by the mother who works no matter how the child care is arranged but if she has to pay formaly for the child care the government will get an additional cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stars Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 True, taxes will be paid by the mother who works no matter how the child care is arranged but if she has to pay formaly for the child care the government will get an additional cut. I think the destruction of economic activity caused by the extra restriction would actually mean less tax is collected and people are poorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Bear Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I think the destruction of economic activity caused by the extra restriction would actually mean less tax is collected and people are poorer. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Financial Hack Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 It is for 10 hours a week to be brought in within 5 years. I love all these Labour plans for things they want to bring in several years down the line. They won't ******ing be there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 the best stealth tax of all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Bear Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 (edited) the best stealth tax of all Of course it is. Reduces real government debt at the expense of the frugal while draging more and more into higher tax bands. On the way now, Brown does not have to do anything, Brown does not have to do anything more or make any announcements. He has already done it. Edited September 29, 2009 by Rare Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imminent_plunge Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 True, taxes will be paid by the mother who works no matter how the child care is arranged but if she has to pay formaly for the child care the government will get an additional cut. OK, 10 years ago I had a child who was extremely unhappy with a 'formal' arrangement. I swapped her care to a friend that lived on benefits. One happy child, because she knew and trusted her carer, one happy childminder because I paid enough to offer a better lifestyle - football lessons for her son, dancing lessons for her daughter and much better food. I was happy too, to know that my daughter was in the care of someone that knew and cared for both of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Bear Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 OK, 10 years ago I had a child who was extremely unhappy with a 'formal' arrangement. I swapped her care to a friend that lived on benefits. One happy child, because she knew and trusted her carer, one happy childminder because I paid enough to offer a better lifestyle - football lessons for her son, dancing lessons for her daughter and much better food. I was happy too, to know that my daughter was in the care of someone that knew and cared for both of us. Yes, I'd much rather see a child with someone they liked and who liked the child rather than someone who just does it for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REP013 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 OK, 10 years ago I had a child who was extremely unhappy with a 'formal' arrangement. I swapped her care to a friend that lived on benefits. One happy child, because she knew and trusted her carer, one happy childminder because I paid enough to offer a better lifestyle - football lessons for her son, dancing lessons for her daughter and much better food. I was happy too, to know that my daughter was in the care of someone that knew and cared for both of us. Don't be ridiculous, how can you be qualified to decide what's best for your own child? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Don't be ridiculous, how can you be qualified to decide what's best for your own child? yep lock that person up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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