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paraphrasing now...

Paxman to Margaret eye block Beckett: "The Labour membership has halved since '97".

Beckett: "But it had doubled in the lead up to 97, it's just fallen back to where it was."

:lol: only MB could spin that one

MB to Paxman: "People can lose what they now have...that we've achieved...for example...a constituent was told he had a 4 week wait for an operation, under the Tories it would have been 18 months!"

MB totally fails to mention that they have run up a huge debt to achieve that AND its on everyone's increased National Insurance contributions which for many if added up over 5 to 10 yars likely comes to more than going private for the same op. The labour tax and NI burden has been very obviously increased on what Tories demanded. how convenient thats glossed over. theres nothing for nothing from Labour, we've all paid for it in TAX TAX TAX and NI

Paxman failed to challenge that.

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Paxman failed to challenge that.

THE MAIN point that should be driven home RELENTLESSLY is that Gordon FAGGOT Brown, as "Chancellor", presided over the biggest property bubble in all history - based on MASSIVE fraud & LIAR LOANS - and he die NOTHING - NOTHING - NOTHING about it.

He sat by & DELIBERATELY took house prices OUT of the inflation figures: This ALONE is one of the greatest cons EVER committed against the UK general population.

He THUS allowed the Bankers & Property Speculators, between themselves, to ENTIRELY & FRAUDULENTLY fix the whole system so that bigger and bigger multiples & mortgages were PUMPED out RELENTLESSLY - backed up by Niue Labia Celebs PUMPING out TV "Property Porn" programmes, ALL backed up by the SIV/CDO/CDS FAKE MONEY SCAM via which the BANKSTERS made MILLIONS and BILLIONS in "profits" off rip-off & scandalous EVER rising House "Prices" & Mortgages --- ALL these factors feeding off each other and feeding the bubble like never before...

BROWN presided over the ENTIRE scam. THAT is the KEY POINT that should be levelled at him 24 hours a day until the next election.

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BROWN presided over the ENTIRE scam. THAT is the KEY POINT that should be levelled at him 24 hours a day until the next election.

Much of the electorate has a vested interest in this scam, through buy-to-let, massive mortgage multiples and liar loans. It's in the nations psyche to think rising house prices are a good thing.

When it comes to criticizing Brown, I think its best to just "not go there" - it could end up working in his favor.

Better to attack public sector waste, terrible pointless wars, the destruction of civil liberty, uncontrolled immigration, MP's expenses, the banking collapse, the promised Lisbon Referendum, the huge tax burden and other New Labour "achievements".

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the promised Lisbon Referendum

Funny I have often heard this quoted and wondered where, in black and white, was this promise was made.

So, having done a bit of research, it can be found, clear as day, on page 84 of the 2005 Labour Party manifesto "Britain forward not back"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs...r_manifesto.pdf

"We will put it to the British people in a referendum and campaign whole-heartedly for a ‘Yes’ vote to keep Britain

a leading nation in Europe."

I must have been out of the country when the referendum was held because I cannot remember being asked to vote!

Joking aside, Gordon Brown and the Labour Party are just a pack of liars. How can anyone have been so foolish as to have voted for them in the first place?

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Funny I have often heard this quoted and wondered where, in black and white, was this promise was made.

So, having done a bit of research, it can be found, clear as day, on page 84 of the 2005 Labour Party manifesto "Britain forward not back"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs...r_manifesto.pdf

"We will put it to the British people in a referendum and campaign whole-heartedly for a ‘Yes’ vote to keep Britain

a leading nation in Europe."

I must have been out of the country when the referendum was held because I cannot remember being asked to vote!

Joking aside, Gordon Brown and the Labour Party are just a pack of liars. How can anyone have been so foolish as to have voted for them in the first place?

It is worth remembering that Labour only got just over a third of the vote in 2005.

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MB to Paxman: "People can lose what they now have...that we've achieved...for example...a constituent was told he had a 4 week wait for an operation, under the Tories it would have been 18 months!"

a couple of years ago my 70-year old father in law had to wait months for a routine hernia operation. He got tired of waiting and putting up with the discomfort and went abroad to get it done immediately.

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a couple of years ago my 70-year old father in law had to wait months for a routine hernia operation. He got tired of waiting and putting up with the discomfort and went abroad to get it done immediately.

My Mum waited well over a year and half for hip replacement. When it happened, I couldn't believe

the conditions in the hospital. I'm not convinced things are better, just cost more.

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So let's elect a guy who helped Lamont make a mess of things in 1992 - just cos he talks nice and has a good PR machine :lol:

So the choice is between someone associated with the 1992 mess (which actually turned out quite well) and the guy who is entirely responsible for the economic mess of the last (and next) decade? I'm no great fan of the Tories, but if you put it like that then I'll vote for them.

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THE MAIN point that should be driven home RELENTLESSLY is that Gordon FAGGOT Brown, as "Chancellor", presided over the biggest property bubble in all history - based on MASSIVE fraud & LIAR LOANS - and he die NOTHING - NOTHING - NOTHING about it.

He sat by & DELIBERATELY took house prices OUT of the inflation figures: This ALONE is one of the greatest cons EVER committed against the UK general population.

He THUS allowed the Bankers & Property Speculators, between themselves, to ENTIRELY & FRAUDULENTLY fix the whole system so that bigger and bigger multiples & mortgages were PUMPED out RELENTLESSLY - backed up by Niue Labia Celebs PUMPING out TV "Property Porn" programmes, ALL backed up by the SIV/CDO/CDS FAKE MONEY SCAM via which the BANKSTERS made MILLIONS and BILLIONS in "profits" off rip-off & scandalous EVER rising House "Prices" & Mortgages --- ALL these factors feeding off each other and feeding the bubble like never before...

BROWN presided over the ENTIRE scam. THAT is the KEY POINT that should be levelled at him 24 hours a day until the next election.

Calm down Eric!

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I had to wait over two years recently for an operation on a slipped disc - and I was down as urgent! They took so long to operate after taking an MRI (which I didn't receive ear protection for and I'm certain has damaged by hearing significantly) that the MRI fell out of date after a year and I had to be sent for another one!

I also used to write software for NHS systems so I'm well aware that the Labour line on waiting lists is complete ********.

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THE MAIN point that should be driven home RELENTLESSLY is that Gordon FAGGOT Brown, as "Chancellor", presided over the biggest property bubble in all history - based on MASSIVE fraud & LIAR LOANS - and he die NOTHING - NOTHING - NOTHING about it.

He sat by & DELIBERATELY took house prices OUT of the inflation figures: This ALONE is one of the greatest cons EVER committed against the UK general population.

He THUS allowed the Bankers & Property Speculators, between themselves, to ENTIRELY & FRAUDULENTLY fix the whole system so that bigger and bigger multiples & mortgages were PUMPED out RELENTLESSLY - backed up by Niue Labia Celebs PUMPING out TV "Property Porn" programmes, ALL backed up by the SIV/CDO/CDS FAKE MONEY SCAM via which the BANKSTERS made MILLIONS and BILLIONS in "profits" off rip-off & scandalous EVER rising House "Prices" & Mortgages --- ALL these factors feeding off each other and feeding the bubble like never before...

BROWN presided over the ENTIRE scam. THAT is the KEY POINT that should be levelled at him 24 hours a day until the next election.

Spot on Eric.

But will anyone say as much?

No ******ing chance.

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THE MAIN point that should be driven home RELENTLESSLY is that Gordon FAGGOT Brown, as "Chancellor", presided over the biggest property bubble in all history - based on MASSIVE fraud & LIAR LOANS - and he die NOTHING - NOTHING - NOTHING about it.

He sat by & DELIBERATELY took house prices OUT of the inflation figures: This ALONE is one of the greatest cons EVER committed against the UK general population.

He THUS allowed the Bankers & Property Speculators, between themselves, to ENTIRELY & FRAUDULENTLY fix the whole system so that bigger and bigger multiples & mortgages were PUMPED out RELENTLESSLY - backed up by Niue Labia Celebs PUMPING out TV "Property Porn" programmes, ALL backed up by the SIV/CDO/CDS FAKE MONEY SCAM via which the BANKSTERS made MILLIONS and BILLIONS in "profits" off rip-off & scandalous EVER rising House "Prices" & Mortgages --- ALL these factors feeding off each other and feeding the bubble like never before...

BROWN presided over the ENTIRE scam. THAT is the KEY POINT that should be levelled at him 24 hours a day until the next election.

The people on this forum aren't idiots. Why do you insist treating them as such by capitalising everything. This isn't preschool.

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My Mum waited well over a year and half for hip replacement. When it happened, I couldn't believe

the conditions in the hospital. I'm not convinced things are better, just cost more.

My Nan went into the now infamous Maidstone hospital just before Xmas 2006, for a hip replacement, as a healthy if old lady. She died on January 2nd 2007 from Cdif.

The conditions in the hospital were absolutely disgusting and a disgrace to our country. My mother worked in the NHS for 25 years and she could not believe what she was seeing.

Utter B******s

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The people on this forum aren't idiots. Why do you insist treating them as such by capitalising everything. This isn't preschool.

What about the idiot's that are reading this forum incognito who don't have a user ID.

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THE MAIN point that should be driven home RELENTLESSLY is that Gordon FAGGOT Brown, as "Chancellor", presided over the biggest property bubble in all history - based on MASSIVE fraud & LIAR LOANS - and he die NOTHING - NOTHING - NOTHING about it.

He sat by & DELIBERATELY took house prices OUT of the inflation figures: This ALONE is one of the greatest cons EVER committed against the UK general population.

He THUS allowed the Bankers & Property Speculators, between themselves, to ENTIRELY & FRAUDULENTLY fix the whole system so that bigger and bigger multiples & mortgages were PUMPED out RELENTLESSLY - backed up by Niue Labia Celebs PUMPING out TV "Property Porn" programmes, ALL backed up by the SIV/CDO/CDS FAKE MONEY SCAM via which the BANKSTERS made MILLIONS and BILLIONS in "profits" off rip-off & scandalous EVER rising House "Prices" & Mortgages --- ALL these factors feeding off each other and feeding the bubble like never before...

BROWN presided over the ENTIRE scam. THAT is the KEY POINT that should be levelled at him 24 hours a day until the next election.

+1

This deserves nomination as the 'post of the month'. If its a tie-break, the use of capitals give it the edge.

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My Nan went into the now infamous Maidstone hospital just before Xmas 2006, for a hip replacement, as a healthy if old lady. She died on January 2nd 2007 from Cdif.

The conditions in the hospital were absolutely disgusting and a disgrace to our country. My mother worked in the NHS for 25 years and she could not believe what she was seeing.

:( v sorry to read that

The people on this forum aren't idiots. Why do you insist treating them as such by capitalising everything. This isn't preschool.

Mr B', a lot of people just skim read, i know that from when i get half-baked responses, so caps are worth using sometimes, esp when expressing the tone EP means to deliver which is to shame GB repeatedly with what GB likes to pretend is other people's fault. i get totally why eric goes caps on those words, i really do.

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THE MAIN point that should be driven home RELENTLESSLY is that Gordon FAGGOT Brown, as "Chancellor", presided over the biggest property bubble in all history - based on MASSIVE fraud & LIAR LOANS - and he die NOTHING - NOTHING - NOTHING about it.

He sat by & DELIBERATELY took house prices OUT of the inflation figures: This ALONE is one of the greatest cons EVER committed against the UK general population.

He THUS allowed the Bankers & Property Speculators, between themselves, to ENTIRELY & FRAUDULENTLY fix the whole system so that bigger and bigger multiples & mortgages were PUMPED out RELENTLESSLY - backed up by Niue Labia Celebs PUMPING out TV "Property Porn" programmes, ALL backed up by the SIV/CDO/CDS FAKE MONEY SCAM via which the BANKSTERS made MILLIONS and BILLIONS in "profits" off rip-off & scandalous EVER rising House "Prices" & Mortgages --- ALL these factors feeding off each other and feeding the bubble like never before...

BROWN presided over the ENTIRE scam. THAT is the KEY POINT that should be levelled at him 24 hours a day until the next election.

As much as i am quick to blame Zanulabia, this has happened not due to party political policies but because all MPs were able to use their expenses to play and flip the market. None of them were likely to stand up through this decade to say this madness should stop - they didn't because they were all milking it in From that **** Blair downwards.

Having said that, i wouldn't piss on a 2010 labour voter if they were on fire. You have to be a mug of the highest degree to fall for their ******** sodden spin.

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