So Has Britain Got Any Relevence Or Anything Going For It Now?

[Guest P-Diddly]

i thought 'britain had talent' ?

it says so in all the magazines, newspapers and the tv.

a talent for herding sheeple from steeple to retail factory outlets.

That's just media, Fred. Most people in the UK are like you and me and Tim. Most know the issues, most know or have come to realise it must change and the GOVT of the last decade was a nonsense.

Okay I know the there's plenty of plastic automotons but I don't think the majority. The silent majority that is.

[ralphmalph]

look if yee in the UK want to leave the EU fine, off yee go thats your choice

but stop sending your UKIP dogs and their steaming shit here, people dont like xenophobic fascists from other countries interfering in their internal affairs? ok?? do you understand our anger??

as for the eurozone market

1. last i checked my savings are still worth more in euro than they would have been if i put them in pounds where they would have been raped by Gordon and still being raped by ongoing quantative easing money printing excercise

2. the UK kept its currency yet yee did not manage to avoid a property bubble and your rates didnt rise (As they should have) for that matter looking at the top right of this site i can still see the UK rates are lower than Euro ones

3. its much easier and cheaper for my company to do business with euro countries, i cringe everytime i get an invoice in pounds (or worse the currency is not mentioned and i have to ring up to confirm that they want payment in pounds)

4, i can go on holidays/business and know exactly how much im being ripped off at home

pot meet black kettle

once again blaming the crisis here on low rates while ignoring the absolute stupidity and greed of the sheeple is very one sided

Ireland is not UK, if stayed out of euro the place would have ended up worse than Iceland and them east European countries

speaking of Iceland, having own currency and rates didnt not prevent the place from imploding under the weight of greed and stupidity

please put the blame squarely where it belongs, the dipshits who bought into the whole property pyramid scheme

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http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/09/28...rman-bank-says/

Deutsche Bank says that Iceland is in a far better position than Ireland. Because it devauled it's currency, exported it;s recession and has good natural resources it should be back on its feet in a year or two. Ireland they say because it is shackeled by the Euro will have to find a new business model and wait for a long time for recovery.

[right_freds_dead]

That's just media, Fred. Most people in the UK are like you and me and Tim. Most know the issues, most know or have come to realise it must change and the GOVT of the last decade was a nonsense.

Okay I know the there's plenty of plastic automotons but I don't think the majority. The silent majority that is.

there is not, nor ever was any silent majority. only a bribed majority,

and when you cant afford to pay them tshtf.

Edited September 28, 2009 by right_freds_dead

[lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!)]

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/09/28...rman-bank-says/

Deutsche Bank says that Iceland is in a far better position than Ireland. Because it devauled it's currency, exported it;s recession and has good natural resources it should be back on its feet in a year or two. Ireland they say because it is shackeled by the Euro will have to find a new business model and wait for a long time for recovery.

yep

and didnt the irish vote no

[TheGoodlife]

The choice to live in peace, not to be robbed, to be treated with respect,

Now I love Italy and would quite happily live there.

But the only time I've ever been robbed in my life is in Italy.

[Guest P-Diddly]

there is not, nor ever was any silent majority. only a bribed majority,

and when you cant afford to pay them tshtf.

How do we know, if they're silent?

Agreed on the bribed bit. But not everyone is a complete kunt in the UK and many are aware of all the BS and are sick of it, but don't necessarily post on internet forums.

[SNACR]

i thought 'britain had talent' ?

it says so in all the magazines, newspapers and the tv.

a talent for herding sheeple from steeple to retail factory outlets.

The retail 'factory' outlets are a most interesting phenomenon off the last ten years or so. The fact there are no factories making anything the shops sell in this country certainly doesn't seem to have held them back.

[Wahoo]

Yes I've been to Southern Italy many times, it's take a few visits to view, buy and complete on a house! It's gorgeous, sunny and architectually beautiful, the people are civil, they have good family values and I've not met a chav yet! my girlfriend is in fact very beautiful fyi and 18 years my junior, with a nice ass, which is better than you making assumption, no doubt you are a complete ass

You lucky, lucky custard!

[theworknomad]

Yes I've been to Southern Italy many times, it's take a few visits to view, buy and complete on a house! It's gorgeous, sunny and architectually beautiful, the people are civil, they have good family values and I've not met a chav yet! my girlfriend is in fact very beautiful fyi and 18 years my junior, with a nice ass, which is better than you making assumption, no doubt you are a complete ass

If you were so happy then you wouldn't be on this board now.

[Mrs Bear]

I work with a lot of foreigners - mainly from Western Europe. They seem to love it over here and plenty who have no intention to return to their place of birth. Some love the British sense of humour, pubs, the weather (from an Italian!), the food (seriously - he is bored of the mono-cuisine offered back home) and the opportunity to work.

As yet, none of them have returned home.

That's interesting. My elder worked for a few years in Cambodia where she shared a house with 6 Italian blokes and came to the conc. that the average Italian is incredibly unadventurous with food. None of them would ever eat anything but Italian, wouldn't even try any of the local food (or even Thai or Indian in a restaurant come to that). It was more or less pizza, pasta, every day. From what you said it must have something to do with the lack of variety at home.

She did eventually get her Italian b/f to try different things and he ended up liking most of them.* But it was a hell of a struggle.

*Though not the 'vermi giganti' (huge eels) that were dug up from the mud on a site he was supervising - locals promptly grabbed them, said they were going to cook them that night and invited him and my d along. He nearly had a fit - was literally in a state of food terror but couldn't get out of it without offending them - ended up feeding nearly all the 'vermi' to a convenient dog lurking under the table.

[Guest UK Debt Slave]

Britain will turn into an insignificant windy island off the coast of the NW Atlantic and nothing else. People will be fleeing the place and birth rates will become negative (just like in the old communist countries) as no one will be able to live with the guilt of introducing a child into such a shitehole + they won't be able to afford it.

There will be no economic recovery. No manufacturing resurgence. No silver bullet.

I'm looking at this from a point of realism. Long term national infrastructure and planning (energy supplies, population, food production, utilities etc) has been decimated and we live in the most short-termist society on earth.

I would love to say that optimism can be gained from past historical achievements of decimated nations (e.g Japan after WWII) but the work ethic, enthusiasm and civility of their populations has enabled economic re-build.

In Britain only the stupid have breed in large numbers for year after year, the population has been brought up expecting everything to be their right work or not and most intelligent people have escaped to New Zealand, Australia or Canada leaving a massive brain drain (the education system has also minimized numbers of engineers and scientists)

Totally agree

I'm 46 and I concluded a long time ago that bringing children into a world as fekked as this one is a really bad idea

A great shame. I would love to have sired a couple sproggs

[PopGun]

A plan

plagiarized from bill bonner

Want to save the UK? Here’s how:

Abolish all welfare of all sorts…no unemployment insurance…no child tax credits…no welfare…no foodstamps…no nothing, except privately-sponsored charities. Close the public schools. Kick out all the bureaucrats and all state employees. Abolish all rules concerning employment – no minimum wages, no overtime, discriminate all you want. Require all residents to say please and thank you…dress properly…and sneer at people who don’t seem to be gainfully employed or polite. Declare the Country a Free Trade Zone. Allow unlimited immigration …giving all immigrants a U.K. passport after 5 years of residency. Levy a flat 10% tax to pay for basic services. Eliminate elections…have the Country controlled by 100 citizens chosen at random.

Within ten years, the UK would be the most dynamic Country in the World.

Within ten years the UK would be a socialist/commie neo fascist's paradise.

Those that still have could gate themselves from the grim reality outside I suppose, but the express kidnappers would always find a way to get you in the end.

Edit:

The key is balance. I agree the pendulum has shifted far too much in one direction at the moment. Another huge shift in the other direction isn’t required, indeed it would make our situation a hundred times worse.

Our predicament will be slowly resolved by lower housing costs and a demographic time bomb, which in the long run (after some pain) will make the UK much better off. China is imploding, and we’ve still not foolishly replaced our farm land with powerstations and factories that would soon be redundant.

The only real factor that could hinder this is a government doing something idiotic like forcing us to join the Euro. Inflexibility will be a killer in the next 20 or so years.

Edited March 17, 2010 by PopGun

[Neil B]

You're correct (tick) It's ****ed

I'm 50 years old

Off to Southern Italy is 18 months time with the Italian girlfriend, house bought and paid for.

House and flat in UK bought and paid for and both been rented for the last 10 years +

Ok final salary pension from Mars Confectionary

and a nice wad of cash from a house sale in August 2007

I thank you UK, but unfortunately I'm bailing out, I was once so proud to be English, now I'm ashamed of the country!

Another Boomer thats raped and pillaged the future economy for younger generations and is now running away with the loot. I think Italy is scratched off my holiday destination list now....