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The Fascists Are Coming To Manchester!

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http://www.permanentrevolution.net/entry/2825

On October 10th the fascist English Defence League (EDL) a violently racist group of Nazi thugs loosely linked to the BNP, are planning to march through Manchester. We are calling on all socialists and anti-fascists to unite to oppose them.

Socialists and anti-fascists have fought for no platform for fascists for many decades. The reason is simple. The fascists use free speech to agitate and organise vicious unprovoked assaults on black and Asian people. In 2000 the Oldham riots began after Nazis broke down the door of a pregnant Asian woman’s house and assaulted her and her family in her own home. The EDL want to do the same thing in Manchester. Come along and help stop them.

:lol::lol: No VI at all there then, if thats not goading/shit stirring i dont know what is ...

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...6515&hl=en#

As my friend Ricky Wilson would say :ph34r:

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I just hope that this time the EDL and the anti-nazi league will have the good manners to put on team t-shirts.

Following the last fixture (in Brum town centre) was made much more difficult by both sides dressing and behaving exactly the same way, i.e. as a rabble of hate-filled violent knobheads.

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When I saw the thread topic and read 'fascist' I thought you meant those who act in a violent fascist way such as UAF but then I saw you were talking about that other bunch of idiots. No doubt the prize for fascist thuggery will go to the EDL even though UAF are the clear winners. Who's fixing this?

Nazis in Oldham in 2000? Is there some sort of historical theme park there or something?

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I just hope that this time the EDL and the anti-nazi league will have the good manners to put on team t-shirts.

The EDL would "go skins" surely?

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Instead of repeating parrot fashion the buzz words programmed into them when they have been poring over Little Lefty Weekly, someone here urgently needs to actually read up on the definition of the over-abused word "Fascist".

Ah me...........

And so much of my taxes wasted on "Education"........

Sigh........

:rolleyes:

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When I saw the thread topic and read 'fascist' I thought you meant those who act in a violent fascist way such as UAF but then I saw you were talking about that other bunch of idiots. No doubt the prize for fascist thuggery will go to the EDL even though UAF are the clear winners. Who's fixing this?

Nazis in Oldham in 2000? Is there some sort of historical theme park there or something?

Thats the million dollar question!

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http://www.permanentrevolution.net/entry/2825

On October 10th the fascist English Defence League (EDL) a violently racist group of Nazi thugs loosely linked to the BNP, are planning to march through Manchester. We are calling on all socialists and anti-fascists to unite to oppose them.

Socialists and anti-fascists have fought for no platform for fascists for many decades. The reason is simple. The fascists use free speech to agitate and organise vicious unprovoked assaults on black and Asian people. In 2000 the Oldham riots began after Nazis broke down the door of a pregnant Asian woman’s house and assaulted her and her family in her own home. The EDL want to do the same thing in Manchester. Come along and help stop them.

:lol::lol: No VI at all there then, if thats not goading/shit stirring i dont know what is ...

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...6515&hl=en#

As my friend Ricky Wilson would say :ph34r:

I would like to see some press reports cited that give further information about the assault on an asian lady.

It is my recollection that the riots started because of a serious assault on a second world war vet, and the death of a white rochdale lad at the hands of asian youths.

I didnt personally see any race riots. I just observed feral asian youths throwing petrol bombs, bricks and other assorted missiles at the police.

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Socialists v Fascists.

Lets hope they all kill each other.

two different ends of the same stick. One hating everything that is white and male, and the other hating everything that isn't white and male!

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I would like to see some press reports cited that give further information about the assault on an asian lady.

It is my recollection that the riots started because of a serious assault on a second world war vet, and the death of a white rochdale lad at the hands of asian youths.

I didnt personally see any race riots. I just observed feral asian youths throwing petrol bombs, bricks and other assorted missiles at the police.

At 8 p.m., a fight between one Asian youth and one white youth near the Good Taste chip shop on the corner of Salford Street and Roundthorn Road in Glodwick.[14] The fight, which was witnessed, and included racist language from both sides is said to have ended abruptly, but led to the hasty gathering of a gang of white youths assembled via mobile phone.

Following this earlier fight between the two youths, further violence erupted as a gang of white men attacked an Asian business and threw a projectile through a window of a house in the Glodwick area, where a heavily pregnant Asian woman was in residence. Violence spiraled from this group as they rampaged through Glodwick attacking a number of persons and properties.

Retaliatory counter-violence soon followed, as large gangs of Asian men gathered and began to rally. Some of the earlier, but then dissipating group of white men were found and attacked. Further to this, a number of car and commercial windows were also smashed in retaliation.

The "white-owned" Live and Let Live pub was targeted and pelted with bricks, stones, bottles and then petrol bombs. Cars were driven to block the fire exits, in an attempt to stop the patrons from escaping the flames. Cars in the surrounding roads were ignited, and police were called. Police officers were pelted by groups of Asian males. A night of violence began and riot police were quickly drafted in to the Glodwick area, rife with both Pakistani and Bangladeshi rioters.

On 21 April 2001, a mugging and attack upon 76-year-old, white, World War II veteran Walter Chamberlain by three Asian youths was amongst the first major provocations which led to the riots.[17] Mr. Chamberlain was approached as he walked to his home after watching a local amateur rugby league match. He was mugged and badly beaten, receiving fractured bones in the face amongst other injuries.

More here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Oldham_race_riots

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two different ends of the same stick. One hating everything that is white and male, and the other hating everything that isn't white and male!

But only one being classed as 'racist'

My little brother, who is a real gentle giant, took a beating from three asian lads on a night out in Rochdale in 2000. Minding his own business stood outside a takeaway with a burger in one hand and a drink in the other, gets shoved in the back, turns around and BAM, knuckleduster to the nose.

Categorised as assault, not a 'racial attack' by the police.

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Good god, can't people just live and let live. Tolerance. I was in Uni halls of residence with Islamists, Orangemen, etc., but we all got along fine. Why exactly are these demos being held against Islamic extremism all of a sudden? All seems very suspect to me.

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Ahem:

2000 the Oldham riots began after Nazis broke down the door of a pregnant Asian woman’s house and assaulted her and her family in her own home

Now this is what you firstly stated in your OP.

So now it is no longer "Broke down the door of a pregnant woman's house", but rather..........

and threw a projectile through a window of a house in the Glodwick area, where a heavily pregnant Asian woman was in residence

So which was it actually?

And try as I might I could find no mainstream media report on this alleged racist incident?

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Ahem:

Now this is what you firstly stated in your OP.

So now it is no longer "Broke down the door of a pregnant woman's house", but rather..........

So which was it actually?

And try as I might I could find no mainstream media report on this alleged racist incident?

Ahem:

You need to read it again...

I did not "state" anything at all in my first post, I posted a link to an article. I then copied and pasted a section of the article, in order to give the HPC reader an idea of the content.

I then did some further searching and located a wiki entry with some more information. Once again not my information, information submitted by users of the wiki.

I assumed the average HPC reader would have the sense to do their own reserach, based on these various bits of hearsay, and then draw their own conclusions. I was obviously wrong.

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Ahem:

You need to read it again...

I did not "state" anything at all in my first post, I posted a link to an article. I then copied and pasted a section of the article, in order to give the HPC reader an idea of the content.

I then did some further searching and located a wiki entry with some more information. Once again not my information, information submitted by users of the wiki.

I assumed the average HPC reader would have the sense to do their own reserach, based on these various bits of hearsay, and then draw their own conclusions. I was obviously wrong.

Ahem.

You were the OP: there was no disclaimer about veracity.

And you, not anyone else, chose the inflamatory (and misleading) title.

One would hope posters here on serious subjects would indeed do some primary research to ensure a degree of accuracy.

Before posting things.

However I would suggest that the wildly different representations of "Truth" and "Fact" lead most with any interest and concern on these matters to arrive at the inescapable conclusion that reality is being rather heavily "Puffed" by behind the scenes instigators, as propoganda for their own ends.

By posting such items without any questions, then you are serving other's purposes for and to their ends: and not your own.

I am fatigued by current over-abuse of words such as "Facist", used by those who clearly wouldn't actually recognise one of them if they bit them hard on the butt!

If such as UAF and the rest of the rabble of violent thugs were truly concerned about true civil liberty and freedom, then they could perhaps more usefully employ their time protesting against the present government's own descent into Neo-Fascism.

However for such as Searchlight perhaps such actions would be too near the truth.

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Ahem.

You were the OP: there was no disclaimer about veracity.

And you, not anyone else, chose the inflamatory (and misleading) title.

One would hope posters here on serious subjects would indeed do some primary research to ensure a degree of accuracy.

Before posting things.

However I would suggest that the wildly different representations of "Truth" and "Fact" lead most with any interest and concern on these matters to arrive at the inescapable conclusion that reality is being rather heavily "Puffed" by behind the scenes instigators, as propoganda for their own ends.

By posting such items without any questions, then you are serving other's purposes for and to their ends: and not your own.

I am fatigued by current over-abuse of words such as "Facist", used by those who clearly wouldn't actually recognise one of them if they bit them hard on the butt!

If such as UAF and the rest of the rabble of violent thugs were truly concerned about true civil liberty and freedom, then they could perhaps more usefully employ their time protesting against the present government's own descent into Neo-Fascism.

However for such as Searchlight perhaps such actions would be too near the truth.

Totally agree, you are 100% correct about our own government ...

However I posted a link to an article, the thread title was taken directly from the article, for that exact reason. The article is total bullcrap VI, probably written by HM's finest. I was intended to provoke discussion, get a grip man.

Edit: Spelling

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Totally agree, you are 100% correct about our own government ...

However I posted a link to an article, the thread title was taken directly from the article, for that exact reason. The article is total bullcrap VI, probably written by HM's finest. I was intended to provoke discussion, get a grip man.

Edit: Spelling

OK.

Then suggestion for future posts: make your own position absolutely clear.

Otherwise the intention and your own perspective will be muddled on this site!

Personally, I feel this matter is hugely critical: as government did with "Terror" (And same in the USA) they have cynically exploited the actually quite minor risks for mainland terror attacks in order to extend Government control over the individual.

Which is nothing more and nothing less than Fascism.

Identical to Hitler and his pals setting the Reichstag fire: and blaming it on the Communists!

And they (UK Government), through various "Independant" militant groups, are agitating civil unrest: for their own devious ends and purposes.

Whilst simultaneously, wholly ignoring the mounting reality of social friction which they themselves have allowed to occur.

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