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Can She***'s Wheels (females' Car Insurance) Be Prosecuted

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just a thought

- i mean we wouldn't tolerate it if was Caucasian's Wheels would we?

so why is this allowed? or is there smallprint saying they will insure men? if so, do they ridiculously load the premium?

any comments

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someone else thought of asking this 3 years ago http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-answers-a...+discrimination

seems it is alleged there that might be a breach, however there was a 2008 amendment, maybe that gives them permission to do so, i don't know.

if they are part of that very unappealing to put it politely insurer fronted by michael winner, i wouldnt insure with them even if i did have curves in all the right places and a thong for every day of the week

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just a thought

- i mean we wouldn't tolerate it if was Caucasian's Wheels would we?

so why is this allowed? or is there smallprint saying they will insure men? if so, do they ridiculously load the premium?

any comments

I don't know about Sheila's wheels, but Diamond, another women only company, actually insure men too.

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It truly is amazing how many women complain about men only golf clubs etc.. Especially when these same women are more than happy at their weekly 'women only' swimming or gym class.

Women. They want to keep the bits of sexism that benefit them, but get rid of the ones that don't. :rolleyes:

Can't have your cake and eat it.

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just a thought

- i mean we wouldn't tolerate it if was Caucasian's Wheels would we?

so why is this allowed? or is there smallprint saying they will insure men? if so, do they ridiculously load the premium?

any comments

It does, on the face of it, seem discriminatory. Thing is though, the whole insurance industry is discriminatory by its very nature. An insurance premium is based upon many factors relating to the individual; age, sex, marital status, nationality, whether they own or rent their home along with many other factors. If insurers weren't allowed to exercise any discrimination at all then the entire industry couldn't function.

I think that as long as they are only discriminating for reasons associated to the insurance risk they are taking on then they don't break any law. Although, this would open a very interesting can of worms if, say, an insurer could produce statistics to show that people of a particular ethnicity were a greater risk than others and refused insurance because of it, or hiked the premium up.

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It truly is amazing how many women complain about men only golf clubs etc.. Especially when these same women are more than happy at their weekly 'women only' swimming or gym class.

Women. They want to keep the bits of sexism that benefit them, but get rid of the ones that don't. :rolleyes:

Can't have your cake and eat it.

Meh, its like the divorce laws.

Watch as strong empowered women able to play the game by their rules and call all the shots (etc etc) suddenly start claiming to be the sort of weak and feeble women last seen in Victorian novels.

I had a row with a member of The Sisterhood on this subject a while ago. The Guides shouldn't admit boys because girls need a "female friendly space" to grow and develop. Girls should be admitted to the Scouts because it is sexist to refuse them the opportunity. I asked if boys need a male-friendly space to grow and develop and was told they'd have to set up their own organisation girls didn't want to join if they felt the need (which was called Scouting surely).

Its impossible. Whats mine is mine, whats yours is mine.

Harridan is apparently look at legislation at the moment to stop City people going to lap dancing clubs in their own time.

In case women don't get invited and miss out on opportunities. Its unclear as to whether men will have the legal right to gossip and accompany female colleagues to the toilet in case they miss any opportunities.

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Meh, its like the divorce laws.

Watch as strong empowered women able to play the game by their rules and call all the shots (etc etc) suddenly start claiming to be the sort of weak and feeble women last seen in Victorian novels.

I had a row with a member of The Sisterhood on this subject a while ago. The Guides shouldn't admit boys because girls need a "female friendly space" to grow and develop. Girls should be admitted to the Scouts because it is sexist to refuse them the opportunity. I asked if boys need a male-friendly space to grow and develop and was told they'd have to set up their own organisation girls didn't want to join if they felt the need.

Its impossible. Whats mine is mine, whats yours is mine.

Its making everything worse for everyone, like getting rid of apartheid.

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It truly is amazing how many women complain about men only golf clubs etc.. Especially when these same women are more than happy at their weekly 'women only' swimming or gym class.

Women. They want to keep the bits of sexism that benefit them, but get rid of the ones that don't. :rolleyes:

Can't have your cake and eat it.

a really good set of points that

It does, on the face of it, seem discriminatory. Thing is though, the whole insurance industry is discriminatory by its very nature. An insurance premium is based upon many factors relating to the individual; age, sex, marital status, nationality, whether they own or rent their home along with many other factors. If insurers weren't allowed to exercise any discrimination at all then the entire industry couldn't function.

I think that as long as they are only discriminating for reasons associated to the insurance risk they are taking on then they don't break any law. Although, this would open a very interesting can of worms if, say, an insurer could produce statistics to show that people of a particular ethnicity were a greater risk than others and refused insurance because of it, or hiked the premium up.

but the rest of the discriminations are now covered under the SDA1975, there is no law against discriminating because someone's been speeding, someone learnt to drive abroad and so may be less used to UK roads (and may be more used to the motor-mayhem of certain countries), but sex is under the SDA. Age is also a grey area, but it can be argued the older you are the wiser you are :lol: though not always, you could always ask if a 64 year old who has been driving a year is better than a 25 year old driving for 2 years.

APR400 thx for the tip

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There was a "Black Pride" held in London recently, Black Culture and History was celebrated and the BBC has a Black music station.

Dread to think of the row if someone organised, white pride, culture and white radio.

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There was a "Black Pride" held in London recently, Black Culture and History was celebrated and the BBC has a Black music station.

Dread to think of the row if someone organised, white pride, culture and white radio.

the problem with such as you suggest is its of course too readily associated with jingoism etc, thats why householders think twice before putting a St George flag in the window, the whole being proud to be british or english thing has been hijacked by accusations of it being racist, and thats not healthy because it oppresses people who live here from their understandable native pride. although the way things look here at the moment, the only reason for putting the flag out is upside down as a distress signal

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a really good set of points that

but the rest of the discriminations are now covered under the SDA1975, there is no law against discriminating because someone's been speeding, someone learnt to drive abroad and so may be less used to UK roads (and may be more used to the motor-mayhem of certain countries), but sex is under the SDA. Age is also a grey area, but it can be argued the older you are the wiser you are :lol: though not always, you could always ask if a 64 year old who has been driving a year is better than a 25 year old driving for 2 years.

APR400 thx for the tip

I don't know. Like I said though it's probably through some convoluted argument along the lines of they're not actually being discriminatory because the person is a particular gender but because certain genders cause more losses. You aren't discriminating because you have a prejudice against a particular gender but because you have ascertained that that gender will cost you more.

Like I said though, it could be a case of skating on thin ice because you could equally apply that to race if you could provide stats to back it up. What would happen in that case is anyone's guess.

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There was a "Black Pride" held in London recently, Black Culture and History was celebrated and the BBC has a Black music station.

Dread to think of the row if someone organised, white pride, culture and white radio.

You should run on stage and ask that at the next MOWO awards.

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You should run on stage and ask that at the next MOWO awards.

To be fair though, that would be a crap show ;)

Agree though, Sh....s Wh...s is blatantly discriminatory, as are many adverts.

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Cucumber sandwiches, the thwack of leather of willow. Another cup of tea vicar?

Stiff upper lip and always bat with a straight bat.

Thinking about it if I was an insurance company I wouldn't be insuring women only, I've never known a womans car not to have numerous dents and gouges on it.

I think I would specialise in the grey market. Old f uckers wheels that would be a good un.

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Apparently from a risk point of view, the insurance gap between women and men drivers is shrinking.

17 year old 'turbo' Tanyas and 75 year old granny snowball heads in 4x4s are catching up with their male counterparts. It also stands to reason that there's just as many mondeo women as mondeo men traveling up and down the nation's motorways these days.

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Shiela's Wheels insure men.

I got a quote from them - £7500.

Admiral were after £600.

So they will insure men but you really wouldn't want to...

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It truly is amazing how many women complain about men only golf clubs etc.. Especially when these same women are more than happy at their weekly 'women only' swimming or gym class.

Women. They want to keep the bits of sexism that benefit them, but get rid of the ones that don't. :rolleyes:

Can't have your cake and eat it.

Women will of course argue that they want to "work out" or whatever without being leared at, or being in constant fear for their safety. It almost assumes that all blokes are rapists and/or paedophiles, and would try something on with a woman within a group. However, you can go out in any town centre in this country, women are sometimes wearing less than what they would be wearing if they were going to the gym - but their aren't men's and women's pubs & clubs. Moreover, women are often let into certain clubs for free (which I believe is discriminatory) and are often given free drinks, or are favoured in certain drinks promotions. Woman can be equally, if not in some cases, worse behaved than blokes.

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Shiela's Wheels insure men.

I got a quote from them - £7500.

Admiral were after £600.

So they will insure men but you really wouldn't want to...

They wouldn't insure me. I ran two identical quotes, one in my name the other in that of other half; same vehicle, same DoB, same details in every respect apart from gender and name. They wouldn't quote for me, just other half.

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There was a "Black Pride" held in London recently, Black Culture and History was celebrated and the BBC has a Black music station.

Dread to think of the row if someone organised, white pride, culture and white radio.

Well, lets do it. I'm game. Lets see what happens and make a mint at the same time if we play our cards right.

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What is it we are supposed to be proud of?

apart from:

reckless credit card use

blind faith in property values

poundland

foxybingo

we do have:

mother of all democracies

the humber suspension bridge

isaac newton

er thats all i can think of for now

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I don't know. Like I said though it's probably through some convoluted argument along the lines of they're not actually being discriminatory because the person is a particular gender but because certain genders cause more losses. You aren't discriminating because you have a prejudice against a particular gender but because you have ascertained that that gender will cost you more.

Like I said though, it could be a case of skating on thin ice because you could equally apply that to race if you could provide stats to back it up. What would happen in that case is anyone's guess.

I'm pretty sure that in the US, they did research that proved that blacks had more accidents per 1000 miles than whites.

Still don't think that their insurers have dared use this to differentiate premiums though.

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