Ruffneck Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/artic...-turn-No10.html They, and 16 other pregnant women, are calling on him to back free healthcare for women and children in poor countries.The women brought with them a 'baby book' containing dozens of messages from expectant mums supporting the campaign. Researchers found half a million pregnant women die each year because they cannot access medical care and people face abuses such as being imprisoned in clinics because they cannot pay doctors' fees. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/artic...l#ixzz0RPCIoPOq delusional , wheres the money going to come from? these countries already cannot support the populations they have now , not mentioning the increases free healthcare will bring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Storm Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Im in favour of this, in the shape of a nuke. All health problems instantly solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick-Watcher Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/artic...-turn-No10.htmldelusional , wheres the money going to come from? these countries already cannot support the populations they have now , not mentioning the increases free healthcare will bring We already do this - they're called asylum seekers (or scum in Daily Mail speak) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Melchett Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Chaps, you're being unnecessarily negative here. This could work if everyone in the country, celebrities included, agreed to live like (the poor) characters in a Charles Dickens novel. First off, I suggest the celebrities concerned start by showing us the way and give away all their money to this end. And if they disappear from public view and STFU as a side effect, well, I for one would respect their sacrifice and not intrude further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsino Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 World leaders will meet at the United Nations General Assembly on September 23, where they are expected to extend free health services in at least seven countries - Burundi, Ghana, Liberia, Malawi, Mozambique, Nepal and Sierra Leone. At what point will we stop paying for free health services in these countries? At what age do we stop providing free healthcare to a child? Do we ensure they are born in adequate facilities and then send them home to a slum to die of malaria or typhoid? Such naive altruism is misguided. Trade, not aid, will improve the standard of living of all people in these poor countries. We should be reducing trade barriers and refusing to deal with corrupt governments that steal from their own people. That would be a far greater and more beneficial move than chucking some spare change at these countries. I don't expect the likes of Zoe Ball to grasp this concept though. For a start she wouldn't get her face in the paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 NWO here we come. Dont think for a minute this will be any different to communism. Instead of everyone being unequally rich, we (the international proletariat class) will be equally poor. Oh, yes, we'll have free healthcare, only it will be the free healthcare they get in the Congo, rather than the congolese getting our healthcare. Say goodbye to (decent) free healthcare here more like. Say hello to voodoo, witch doctors and fat women in garish dresses with bananas on their heads wailing at deafening levels to drown out the misery that will be cast over our wards. The ONLY effect good healthcare would have, if it were possible, in these countries is that instead of having 1 billion starving and living in squalor with no hope, we'll have 5 billion starving and living in squalor with no hope. I never thought such NWO evil would manifest itself in the shape of Zoe Ball, i guess i was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHERWICK Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 We should be reducing trade barriers and refusing to deal with corrupt governments that steal from their own people. I'm afraid that's impossible because if we (and everyone else) did that, then international trade would collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 First off, I suggest the celebrities concerned start by showing us the way and give away all their money to this end. +1 This should be the first response to this request. Lets see how many wish to support this noble idea then. It's like when Bono is going around about 3rd debt, don't see him dipping into his wealth to help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prescience Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 These bubble-brained celebs, who are nicely placed thank you owing only to a freak in saturation media and the opportunity to earn hundreds of thousands for being famous for being famous, need to extract their heads from up their primary orifices and get real! If they really feel the need to help the third world poor, sick and oppressed, well on yer bike and get out there and get stuck in! Forsake the idle well paid life and constant pursuit by photographers with nothing better to do, pack your back and let's see how long they last! Alternatively, they could always work gratis in an Oxfam shop which is about as much use in the real World........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 +1This should be the first response to this request. Lets see how many wish to support this noble idea then. It's like when Bono is going around about 3rd debt, don't see him dipping into his wealth to help out. U2 have purposely moved their operation to Amsterdam, in order to take advantage of their tax relief towards recording artists http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/aug/09/artsnews.ireland Vast swathes of Africa are not meant to be habitable, but people still live in these areas. Those who entirely rely on aid became expectant of it, and will not do anything for themselves. The only way to break the cycle is to give them the means of production, and teach them how to be self sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchbux Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I'm afraid that's impossible because if we (and everyone else) did that, then international trade would collapse. Good point Brilliant post Melchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dispossessed Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I can't stand the liberal left media and arty types. They want Gordon (us) to pay, I want them to pay, I rather fancy they have enough spare to make a difference to many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone baby gone Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Fair enough to draw attention to the plight of pregnant women in developing countries, but expecting us to pay for it? WTF? Surely the contributions the UK public make via charity and the WHO, etc. is enough. Sounds like it's really just a photo op for B-list celebs who can't stay out of the limelight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHERWICK Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Someone said it before much better than me, but giving aid to Africa is like the Developed countries' rich people taking £s off the Developed countries' poor people to give straight to the African countries' RICH people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsino Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I'm afraid that's impossible because if we (and everyone else) did that, then international trade would collapse. For example the West has encouraged all kinds of economic, political and democratic reforms in Eastern Europe by offering the prospect of joining the European Union. Despite its many faults the EU has done a considerable amount to foster trade among its member states. Countries that do not meet the requirements of good governance are not able to join (although the rules are pretty flexible). I cannot see why this policy can't be applied to our dealings with many other countries. Economic pressure ended Apartheid in South Africa. Instead, the West often supports and funds terrible governments who seem determined to keep their people poor while the kleptocrats live it up in Paris, London and Geneva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theboltonfury Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Chaps, you're being unnecessarily negative here. This could work if everyone in the country, celebrities included, agreed to live like (the poor) characters in a Charles Dickens novel. First off, I suggest the celebrities concerned start by showing us the way and give away all their money to this end. And if they disappear from public view and STFU as a side effect, well, I for one would respect their sacrifice and not intrude further. Sting and Chris Martin spring to mind. If you're so bothered Chris why don't you give all your money to Rwanda and stop living in a 50 room house and flying around the world. Until you do that STFU... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Storm Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Chris Martin spring to mind.If you're so bothered Chris why don't you give all your money to Rwanda and stop living in a 50 room house and flying around the world. Until you do that STFU... Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theboltonfury Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Who? The muncher that fronts up Coldplay. Him of the taped fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick-Watcher Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 The muncher that fronts up Coldplay.Him of the taped fingers. Married to Gwyneth Paltrow I think. The great and good of the do-gooder movement. As you say - let them give 10% of their wealth away annually and I might be tempted to copy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ruffneck Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 there was an even loonier music celeb whos name has slipped my mind who said people should only use one square of toilet paper when they go to the bathroom edit : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6583067.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachman Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 actually, she is going to save the world.... her invention of a reusable napkin 'sleeve' will save all those Africans. - fkcuing idiot. The answer is simple - their birth rate needs to come down or their death rate needs to rise. The latter is not seen as acceptable in these generally post genocidal days (though a bit of monkey sex a few years ago is working its way through over there)). So we stop them breeding - at a stroke, less pressure on healthcare and more money to improve things. If we keep interfering all we do is make it worse. Without the dogooders, millions of these people would not have even been born into misery and died in agony - genuine question - would it be better that they had never existed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick-Watcher Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 there was an even loonier music celeb whos name has slipped my mind who said people should only use one square of toilet paper when they go to the bathroomedit : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6583067.stm I challenge her to clean up the aftermath of a good curry with a single square of loo roll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer! Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 For example the West has encouraged all kinds of economic, political and democratic reforms in Eastern Europe by offering the prospect of joining the European Union. Despite its many faults the EU has done a considerable amount to foster trade among its member states. Countries that do not meet the requirements of good governance are not able to join (although the rules are pretty flexible). I cannot see why this policy can't be applied to our dealings with many other countries. Economic pressure ended Apartheid in South Africa. Instead, the West often supports and funds terrible governments who seem determined to keep their people poor while the kleptocrats live it up in Paris, London and Geneva. Countries that do not meet the requirements of good governance are not able to join Does that mean we should leave as our government are total f*ckwits Economic pressure ended Apartheid in South Africa Yeah and now look at the place its a shlt hole. I'll second the nuke option, its best all round for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Married to Gwyneth Paltrow I think. The great and good of the do-gooder movement.As you say - let them give 10% of their wealth away annually and I might be tempted to copy them. Yes. nothing like setting a good example. Sadly with this lot, it is, "don't do as I do - do as I say". Gordon too is very free with OUR money. Wonder how much he personally gives. Bet it is less than I do. I already give to 3rd world charities, but I can't afford much. My heart bleeds when I see those starving kiddies, but I think the ultimate answer may well lie in dishing out condoms and implementing family planning. Let's face it, a fence at the top of the cliff is better than an ambulance at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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