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Inconsiderate indolent proletariat should work for a shiny penny a day and the satisfaction of knowing that their servitude greatly increases the splendour in which their masters live.

We are overpaid for what we do in comparison to the rest of the world. The problem lies in the fact that the high cost of living (housing and council tax) forces up the wage needed which therefore makes us uncompetitive. Why should someone in China work 80 hours a week to survive when we have people sitting on their bums all day doing nothing?

We are in competition with the world and we need to get used to it because sooner or later it will be us living in slums whilst the east is in luxury.

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We are overpaid for what we do in comparison to the rest of the world. The problem lies in the fact that the high cost of living (housing and council tax) forces up the wage needed which therefore makes us uncompetitive. Why should someone in China work 80 hours a week to survive when we have people sitting on their bums all day doing nothing?

We are in competition with the world and we need to get used to it because sooner or later it will be us living in slums whilst the east is in luxury.

So you want us to engage in a race to the bottom? This would be the same China that was selling the organs of executed prison inmates.

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What about if people work for free, should that be illegal?

No, if they can afford to work for free then that is their choice. If they work for free and expect their misadventure/stupidity to be funded by state benefit they can think again.

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No, if they can afford to work for free then that is their choice. If they work for free and expect their misadventure/stupidity to be funded by state benefit they can think again.

That's right.

There shouldn't be any state benefits, I quite agree.

This whole problem is basically one of what does and doesn't comprise money. While the state and the banksters are in charge of it via the legal tender law, then we will all be on a march to forelock tugging slavery.

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No, if they can afford to work for free then that is their choice. If they work for free and expect their misadventure/stupidity to be funded by state benefit they can think again.

So why not allow them to work for a low wage?

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We are overpaid for what we do in comparison to the rest of the world. The problem lies in the fact that the high cost of living (housing and council tax) forces up the wage needed which therefore makes us uncompetitive. Why should someone in China work 80 hours a week to survive when we have people sitting on their bums all day doing nothing?

We are in competition with the world and we need to get used to it because sooner or later it will be us living in slums whilst the east is in luxury.

High cost of living in this country is a problem, sure. However, the chinese shouldn't be working 80 hours a week. That they are is the real problem.

People in this country, and most other western countries, fought really hard for things like weekends and a 40 hour week. All that hard work is now being undone because we have given far too much power to corporations who abuse it by moving jobs to the cheapest areas. All good and wonderful for the corporations - not so good for anyone else. Globalisation has gone too far. Countries should start putting tarrifs on goods from countries that don't have a certain level of worker protection and possibly outright banning imports of goods from countries that don't abide by some basic rights for workers. Compulsory weekends and a minimum 2 weeks paid holiday a year for a start. It'll hurt the lowest paid to begin with but these countries will have to fall in line and pass laws to protect their poorest if they want to sell the the rich countries - and they do, we have all the money.

For the last few decades we have had the ultra wealthy try and rip the workers of most developed countries down to the level of poorer contries. They've in large part succeeded in this. Sure, we still ahve 40 hour weeks and holidays etc but already a lot of the protections that were hard fought for by previous generations are weakened. Instead of letting our workers compete against third world countries how about our government gets its head out of its **** and starts forcing corporations to give the same protections we take for granted to any worker they employ, wherever they live. Lets pull everyone up instead of down. There will always be poor people in the world but previous generations lifted themselves and their children out of poverty in large part by forcing fair pay and decent working conditions. Lets try and help those in countries with less protections GAIN the protections we have instead of losing ours so we can 'compete'.

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So why not allow them to work for a low wage?

Because the minimum wage is already laughable low given prevailing living costs. Drop the minimum wage and all you do is condemn more people to penury.

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Because the minimum wage is already laughable low given prevailing living costs. Drop the minimum wage and all you do is condemn more people to penury.

Nope.

Drop the minimum wage and some of the peopel who are currently in penury get a chance to earn a little more.

No one owes you, me or anyone anything, BBC.

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Because the minimum wage is already laughable low given prevailing living costs. Drop the minimum wage and all you do is condemn more people to penury.

It's not the employers that are responsible for their plight, it is the landowners and the plutocrats, those who control the means of production and those who place restrictions on other people entering the market.

Standing in the way of the victim to earn a pittance helps no one.

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