Realistbear Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8252966.stm Page last updated at 08:05 GMT, Sunday, 13 September 2009 09:05 UK E-mail this to an enemy Printable version PM says UK recovering but fragile People queue outside job centre in Bristol There are fears unemployment could top three million by the end of the year Britain is on the road towards recovery but things remain fragile, Prime Minister Gordon Brown will tell the TUC's annual congress this week. ..../ In his speech, Mr Brown will say: "People's livelihoods and homes and savings are still hanging in the balance, and so today I say to you: don't put the recovery at risk. ......./ Despite recent signs of a tentative economic recovery, there are fears that the number of people out of work could top the three million mark by the end of the year. Can't help but notice the "you" in the highlighted bit. Advance blame being placed on others. So typical for this gentleman who seeks re-election. The bottom line remains unaltered. Unemployment for millions beckons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rw42 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Cheeky ******er. The only reason my savings are being devalued are because of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) How I wish Brown and the Labour party would just sod off. How much longer do we have to put up with this drivel? It's like living in the matrix ffs. Edited September 13, 2009 by Errol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonkers Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Taking the Greenspan line. It's all our fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spivT Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8252966.stmPage last updated at 08:05 GMT, Sunday, 13 September 2009 09:05 UK E-mail this to an enemy Printable version PM says UK recovering but fragile People queue outside job centre in Bristol There are fears unemployment could top three million by the end of the year Britain is on the road towards recovery but things remain fragile, Prime Minister Gordon Brown will tell the TUC's annual congress this week. ..../ In his speech, Mr Brown will say: "People's livelihoods and homes and savings are still hanging in the balance, and so today I say to you: don't put the recovery at risk. ......./ Despite recent signs of a tentative economic recovery, there are fears that the number of people out of work could top the three million mark by the end of the year. Can't help but notice the "you" in the highlighted bit. Advance blame being placed on others. So typical for this gentleman who seeks re-election. The bottom line remains unaltered. Unemployment for millions beckons. not long ago the 'you' would have meant the banks. Now it's all encompassing.....everyone has to do their bit - trade unions to drop silly wage demands [or indeed any kind of wage demands] the msm to do their bit by talking the economic recovery up and by not critizicing gordon's heroic policy responses , the BoE to keep IR's at 0.5%all in the aim of restoring positive sentiment amongst the gbp to pay down their mortgages AND buy shiny new cars.......better to gorge on the abundance of free money than turn off the taps in the belief things are back on an even keel. Gordo is warning of the double dip. it's also code for 'don't vote for tory cuts.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashinmattress Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Time to fire up the war machine and conscript these nobody's eh? Oops. I thought it was 1909! Silly me. Oh well, I guess we're just going to have to deal with them. And all these unemployed and most likely unskilled folk are going to be making babies. Lots and lots of them. The future looks blight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia O'Keeffe Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Cheeky ******er.The only reason my savings are being devalued are because of him. a typically selfish viewpoint for this site, the redistribution of your frugality to debt monkeys should be welcomed by you. "Its the right thing to do" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spivT Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Time to fire up the war machine and conscript these nobody's eh?Oops. I thought it was 1909! Silly me. Oh well, I guess we're just going to have to deal with them. And all these unemployed and most likely unskilled folk are going to be making babies. Lots and lots of them. The future looks blight. well, brown does sound distinctly 'dig for victory' when he talks about the recovereh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happy? Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8252966.stmPage last updated at 08:05 GMT, Sunday, 13 September 2009 09:05 UK E-mail this to an enemy Printable version PM says UK recovering but fragile People queue outside job centre in Bristol There are fears unemployment could top three million by the end of the year Britain is on the road towards recovery but things remain fragile, Prime Minister Gordon Brown will tell the TUC's annual congress this week. ..../ In his speech, Mr Brown will say: "People's livelihoods and homes and savings are still hanging in the balance, and so today I say to you: don't put the recovery at risk. ......./ Despite recent signs of a tentative economic recovery, there are fears that the number of people out of work could top the three million mark by the end of the year. Can't help but notice the "you" in the highlighted bit. Advance blame being placed on others. So typical for this gentleman who seeks re-election. The bottom line remains unaltered. Unemployment for millions beckons. It's a coded reference to the winter of discontent when a weak (but viable) Labour government's chances of re-election were squandered by self-destructive union militancy (or so the argument runs). This has always been the position of the social democrats in the Labour party (and indeed part of the reason the gang of four split). According to this account of events, this militancy permitted an anti-Labour, anti-union press to portray Britain on the edge of chaos and so let Thatcher into No 10 on a small majority. The re-writing of history (to show Thatcher as shoe-in on an inevitable path to victory) downplays how far from certain the outcome of the 1979 election was. At the time Thatcher's popularity was far from sealed and her stealing of the National Front's fears of 'a flood of immigrants' was part of this exercise to rally the troops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Bloo Loo recession bonds are in great demand. PM me with your bank details so a monthly standing order can be set up to the Loo fund. The fund guarantees, all the bonds will be spent wisely into the consumer economy. (terms and conditions apply, you will lose all your investment but be satisfied your money is well spent in the interest of the economy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) Going to be intresting to see what is said back? In years gone by they towed the line, but i suspect the anger over the Banks & Wars will boil over......back to old Labour Mike Edited September 13, 2009 by Mega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minos Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 It strikes me that the warm up for an October election is now underway. Codron might just scrape it as well given the "signs of recovereh". In seven weeks October will be over. When is this election to be announced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 It strikes me that the warm up for an October election is now underway. Codron might just scrape it as well given the "signs of recovereh". Brown is running out of time, this recovery could be over by Christmas so leaving an election to next year would be suicide. Personally I think if Q3 figures have growth in them Labour will go for it as they will be the party of recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.C. Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Now it's all encompassing.....everyone has to do their bit - trade unions to drop silly wage demands [or indeed any kind of wage demands] If there was no debt this would be possible, you trade your desire for more wealth with having an economy and jobs. But now, thanks to all the debt and pulling forward future earnings, if we don't have high wages the economy collapses. Ooops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trampa501 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 it's also code for 'don't vote for tory cuts.' Fear is the key to NuLab's chances at the next election (extremely slim even so). Voldemort will rely on public workers voting NuLab (the Tories will axe your job), private workers still lucky enough to be in work (Don't put at risk the recovery!), and anyone else who is teetering on the precipice. Of course the question "Who got us to this point?" will be blamed on the bankers and shysters in the City. Mmm, I've been of the opinion that the Tories will walk the next election. But, who knows what FEAR may do to people's voting intentions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trampa501 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Brown is running out of time, this recovery could be over by Christmas so leaving an election to next year would be suicide.Personally I think if Q3 figures have growth in them Labour will go for it as they will be the party of recovery. You're assuming the man isn't deluded. If he truly believes his policies are going to bring about a strong recovery, then he'll hang on until May, assuming that the economy will get stronger and the voters will reward him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RufflesTheGuineaPig Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 How I wish Brown and the Labour party would just sod off.How much longer do we have to put up with this drivel? It's like living in the matrix ffs. Another 5 years, although it will get worse after the next election as brown will deem himself to have a mandate to do what he likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Bowman Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 How I wish Brown and the Labour party would just sod off.How much longer do we have to put up with this drivel? It's like living in the matrix ffs. new keyboard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8252966.stmPage last updated at 08:05 GMT, Sunday, 13 September 2009 09:05 UK E-mail this to an enemy Printable version PM says UK recovering but fragile People queue outside job centre in Bristol There are fears unemployment could top three million by the end of the year Britain is on the road towards recovery but things remain fragile, Prime Minister Gordon Brown will tell the TUC's annual congress this week. ..../ In his speech, Mr Brown will say: "People's livelihoods and homes and savings are still hanging in the balance, and so today I say to you: don't put the recovery at risk. ......./ Despite recent signs of a tentative economic recovery, there are fears that the number of people out of work could top the three million mark by the end of the year. Can't help but notice the "you" in the highlighted bit. Advance blame being placed on others. So typical for this gentleman who seeks re-election. The bottom line remains unaltered. Unemployment for millions beckons. Brown has told the union leaders what they want to hear, that their members jobs, pay and conditions are safe. However the union leaders must know from experience that Brown cannot be trusted, he will promise the earth and then do the opposite. Brown is also saying to the public sector unions if you take industrial action to resist the job cuts then you will put the recovery of the country and peoples livelihoods at risk, so he is putting the onus on them. But why would Brown be concerned about industrial action if he didnt intend to cut jobs, pay and conditions? The union leaders will sell their members out by going along with Browns plans and then give the excuse that he tricked them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest absolutezero Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Fear is the key to NuLab's chances at the next election (extremely slim even so). Voldemort will rely on public workers voting NuLab (the Tories will axe your job), private workers still lucky enough to be in work (Don't put at risk the recovery!), and anyone else who is teetering on the precipice. Of course the question "Who got us to this point?" will be blamed on the bankers and shysters in the City. Mmm, I've been of the opinion that the Tories will walk the next election. But, who knows what FEAR may do to people's voting intentions? A Tory win is definitely not a done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dances with sheeple Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 You're assuming the man isn't deluded. If he truly believes his policies are going to bring about a strong recovery, then he'll hang on until May, assuming that the economy will get stronger and the voters will reward him. He has power until May, all he is about is being in "power" he will not let go until he has to, it`s really that sad,but good for the country as he will be slaughtered at the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) don't we all have to take responsibility anyway, to a degree, the electorate, unions, banks, private anbd public sectors. we all have to bear some pain. 95%+ of the electorate bought into the bubble, even tories I knew thought house prices would rise forever, and labour were fairly democratically elected 3 times on the run, it's not like it was a military coup. Edited September 13, 2009 by Si1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest absolutezero Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 don't we all have to take responsibility anyway, to a degree, the electorate, unions, banks, private anbd public sectors. we all have to bear some pain.95%+ of the electorate bought into the bubble, even tories I knew thought house prices would rise forever, and labour were fairly democratically elected 3 times on the run, it's not like it was a military coup. I'm far from convinced it would have been any different under a Tory administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huw Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 a typically selfish viewpoint for this site, the redistribution of your frugality to debt monkeys should be welcomed by you. "Its the right thing to do" I don't know that it should be welcomed but it's inevitable:your (and my) savings are the debt-monkey's IOUs. What did anybody think was going to happen? (Just be grateful your credit account with the debt-monkeys is not as large as China's ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 I'm far from convinced it would have been any different under a Tory administration. one difference being their instinct not to over-spend; I think the govt fiscal position would have been much healthier, the puyblic sector less bloated, but still expanded as this was the concensus, but the bubble probably would still have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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