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Uk Police Watchdog Finally Gets Off Its Butt To Investigate Terrorism Detention-and-search Of Children, Theft Of Electronics

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UK police watchdog finally gets off its butt to investigate terrorism detention-and-search of children, theft of electronics

The UK police watchdog is finally looking into the widespread use of anti-terrorism stop-and-search powers by cops. The event that spurred them into it? Two plainclothes cops stopped a 43-year-old man and his 11-year-old daughter and her six-year-old friend. They took the man's USB sticks, phones, camera and CD, made him stand in front of a CCTV to be photographed, and then they searched and photographed the children.

They never told the man where he could go to get his property returned. They never returned it. Where I come from, that's called "being mugged."

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said todayit would "manage" the investigation into the incident in July, meaning that an independent investigator will control the inquiry conducted by the Met's Directorate of Professional Standards...

In a statement today, the IPCC said: "The complainant states that, when he asked under what legislation his property was being seized, he was told it was under section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000. He also complained that he was given no information as to when he could retrieve his goods or who to contact in order to do so, and that there was no communication from police despite assurances that he would be told when he could collect his things."

One thing about fascism is that in order to defeat it you have to be willing to go one step further than the state in terms of wickedness and cruelty to restore some normality.

The future looks blight.

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Do they need to give a reason and does the officer need to have authorisation for the specified area from at least an Assistant Chief Constable or am I reading this wrong?

44 Authorisations

(1) An authorisation under this subsection authorises any constable in uniform to stop a vehicle in an area or at a place specified in the authorisation and to search—

(a) the vehicle;

(B) the driver of the vehicle;

© a passenger in the vehicle;

(d) anything in or on the vehicle or carried by the driver or a passenger.

(2) An authorisation under this subsection authorises any constable in uniform to stop a pedestrian in an area or at a place specified in the authorisation and to search—

(a) the pedestrian;

(B) anything carried by him.

(3) An authorisation under subsection (1) or (2) may be given only if the person giving it considers it expedient for the prevention of acts of terrorism.

(4) An authorisation may be given—

(a) where the specified area or place is the whole or part of a police area outside Northern Ireland other than one mentioned in paragraph (B) or ©, by a police officer for the area who is of at least the rank of assistant chief constable;

(B) where the specified area or place is the whole or part of the metropolitan police district, by a police officer for the district who is of at least the rank of commander of the metropolitan police;

© where the specified area or place is the whole or part of the City of London, by a police officer for the City who is of at least the rank of commander in the City of London police force;

(d) where the specified area or place is the whole or part of Northern Ireland, by a member of the Royal Ulster Constabulary who is of at least the rank of assistant chief constable.

(5) If an authorisation is given orally, the person giving it shall confirm it in writing as soon as is reasonably practicable.

Edit: bad spelling due to gin

Edited by UncleMeat

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and all you little armchair critics would be the first to whinge when there is another terrorist atrocity and the police apparently did nothing to prevent it :blink: boing boing

Not really as the chance of being blown up is tiny compared to other risks people take in life , ie driving a car , hell if you want police check points everywhere go move to beijing , there were metal detectors and baggage scanners at each and every metro station. Entering Tianamen sq took ages going from metro station to another metro station took ages the searches took longer than the train ride.

seeing mao's body was particularly bad , search , scan , then queue then search scan then que then search scan queue etc.

Streets full of "security volunteers" was also unerving

It was painfully slow... still if you want a completely totalitarian state as you seem to want go move to north Korea.

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UK police watchdog finally gets off its butt to investigate terrorism detention-and-search of children, theft of electronics

One thing about fascism is that in order to defeat it you have to be willing to go one step further than the state in terms of wickedness and cruelty to restore some normality.

The future looks blight.

Any more info or photos. Were they taing pictures of something they shouldnt have been. Two sides to most stories

Achtung

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and all you little armchair critics would be the first to whinge when there is another terrorist atrocity and the police apparently did nothing to prevent it :blink: boing boing

Absolutely!

The terrorists are everywhere, we can never be too vigilant.

I suspect my neighbour Mr Mohammed is one, he's got a shifty look in his eyes. Just to be sure, I shoot him a quizzical glance over the hedge every now and then, and go through his bins once a week.

I for one welcome living in a police state if it means we are able to keep the evils of Eurasia, sorry, Islam, at bay.

All hail the police !

Do as you are told and we will keep you safe !

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and all you little armchair critics would be the first to whinge when there is another terrorist atrocity and the police apparently did nothing to prevent it :blink: boing boing

Sigh. Atypical donkey response from a well trained serf.

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The Nazi's used to have independant inquiries into the actions of the SS and did take action against those who acted unlawfully, up until the SS were given powers making them effectively above the law.

Don't think that the IPCC keep us safe because they only act within the regime.

TFH

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and all you little armchair critics would be the first to whinge when there is another terrorist atrocity and the police apparently did nothing to prevent it

Not at all. I have never met a terrorist, nor have I ever met anyone that has met one. I have met many policemen. I recall when the IRA were bombing London, I never saw a bomb, I was effected by delays due to bomb searches. Thus I regard terrorism as just another risk of living. In this regard it is no different to being struck by lightning. I know that it could happen but do not worry about it. However I am very much effected by the police state. Thus I am weighing up a potential imposition against my liberties by terrorists against a real and actual reduction in my liberties imposed by the state. I say that I prefer my freedom and will take my chances with the terrorists. Now you may feel different, perhaps you see the state as mothers arms holding you tight and keeping you safe, to me it is a prison society.

All these measures do nothing to stop terrorists. Monitoring the public's e-mails will not find terrorists. They will use strong encryption. All it does is allow the authorities to monitor the public. Likewise a bomber will wear make up and hair dye should he wish to conceal his identity from the cameras. None of it is for the purposes stated, stopping terrorism. It is all for imposing a police state on the public. Personally, I am not even sure Osama Bin Laden exists, why has he not been found? Emmanuel Goldstein?

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