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UK employment market 'recovering'

The UK jobs market is starting to show signs of recovery, according to a survey of recruitment agencies.

The research, produced by Markit Economics, finds "marginal increases" in both permanent and temporary appointments in August. For permanent staff, this is the first increase since early 2007.

It surely looks like green shoots to me - tiny ones, but definitely green.

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UK employment market 'recovering'

The UK jobs market is starting to show signs of recovery, according to a survey of recruitment agencies.

The research, produced by Markit Economics, finds "marginal increases" in both permanent and temporary appointments in August. For permanent staff, this is the first increase since early 2007.

It surely looks like green shoots to me - tiny ones, but definitely green.

And the same MSM are reporting the recession is over...because,,,,M&As are picking up...well, theres 2.

stimulus must be working. thats why they ( Darling et al) are begging the world to keep it going...its all they have!

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QE is working........but for now long?

Probably a lot of part-time work. The permanent jobs are probably all 14k a year.

I don't quite agree with the jobless recovery concept. I am seeing loads of adverts, but the main challenge is prospective employers being deluged with useless CVs.

If you want a engineering manager you are not going to hire some one made redundant from a less skilled role such as investment banking, mortgage broking or estate agency.

Edited by mikelivingstone

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people just are not understanding what's happening.

When more people are working to create less, but the overhead has increased, it has to impact somewhere.

Then you have the local impact, people are being told the recession is over yet every week they have less money available, even though they have already made cut's to their lifestyle.

this is the early stages of a bad depression.

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people just are not understanding what's happening.

When more people are working to create less, but the overhead has increased, it has to impact somewhere.

Then you have the local impact, people are being told the recession is over yet every week they have less money available, even though they have already made cut's to their lifestyle.

this is the early stages of a bad depression.

interesting post ^

passed a rec't chain branch on monday, some jobs in window, but no staff visible inside, in the window an ad for a recruitment cons for that branch.

no staff and no applicants!

2 or 3 job ads in the local paper, no upturn there.

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Yet the BBC reported that there was no increase but a reduction in the rate of vacancy numbers decreasing.

MMmmmmm who is right who is wrong?

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BBC1 bod just commented that all the good news seems to portray a whole "lawn of green shoots"...all very short and needing nurturing.

He sounded a bit sceptical in fairness.

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The marginal recovereh!

Main Entry: mar·gin·al

Pronunciation: \ˈmärj-nəl, ˈmär-jə-nəl\

Function: adjective

Etymology: Medieval Latin marginalis, from Latin margin-, margo

Date: 1573

1 : written or printed in the margin of a page or sheet <marginal notes>

2 a : of, relating to, or situated at a margin or border b : not of central importance <regards violence as a marginal rather than a central problem>; also : limited in extent, significance, or stature <had only marginal success with the business> c (1) : occupying the borderland of a relatively stable territorial or cultural area <marginal tribes> (2) : characterized by the incorporation of habits and values from two divergent cultures and by incomplete assimilation in either <the marginal cultural habits of new immigrant groups> (3) : excluded from or existing outside the mainstream of society, a group, or a school of thought <marginal voters>

3 : located at the fringe of consciousness <marginal sensations>

4 a : close to the lower limit of qualification, acceptability, or function : barely exceeding the minimum requirements <a semiliterate person of marginal ability> b (1) : having a character or capacity fitted to yield a supply of goods which when marketed at existing price levels will barely cover the cost of production <marginal land> (2) : of, relating to, or derived from goods produced and marketed with such result <marginal profits>5 : relating to or being a function of a random variable that is obtained from a function of several random variables by integrating or summing over all possible values of the other variables <a marginal probability function>

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http://www.markiteconomics.com/MarkitFiles...se.aspx?ID=5520

hmmm no sources for agencies involved (job sectors or numbers), whole thing looks very wobbly to me, were almost back to 2007 levels yet unemployment figure 2.4 million ah ahahaha.

I just dont believe this, temp/perm roles mirror each other role for role in volume. I was a 1 contractor to 20 perm staff in my industry this has been declining since 2000 ... hogwash to the whole thing.

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http://www.markiteconomics.com/MarkitFiles...se.aspx?ID=5520

hmmm no sources for agencies involved (job sectors or numbers), whole thing looks very wobbly to me, were almost back to 2007 levels yet unemployment figure 2.4 million ah ahahaha.

I just dont believe this, temp/perm roles mirror each other role for role in volume. I was a 1 contractor to 20 perm staff in my industry this has been declining since 2000 ... hogwash to the whole thing.

Meanwhile back on planet earth.

However, the report said it was too early to say whether the encouraging figures signalled an end to the recession.

The latest jobless figures showed that the number of people out of work in the UK has risen to its highest level since 1995.

More championing from the Beeb and their continual use of the phrase "great news, the rate of decline is declining." Temporary appointments are bound to rise during August due to tourism and holiday cover. Wake me up when unemployment starts to level off.

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A recovery you say ?

Smoke and mirrors, says I.

Mr. Cameron was on tv yesterday telling anyone who would listen that he and his peers will be taking cuts in salary and there'll be 10% less of them in their ranks.

Now, call me cynical, but politicians wouldn't be cutting back on their own cushy lifestyles if they could see a recovery. ;)

They'd be filling their boots...............................

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interesting post ^

passed a rec't chain branch on monday, some jobs in window, but no staff visible inside, in the window an ad for a recruitment cons for that branch.

no staff and no applicants!

2 or 3 job ads in the local paper, no upturn there.

aye , there would be quite a few places looking for staff but they can't be arsed advertising and receiving 700 applicants.walk in there with a good cv and a smile and you'd stand a much better chance than with these newspaper ads.

Edited by Ruffneck

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There are a lot more jobs in our local paper these days than there were a few months ago. I think the lowest count I did was a total of 11, including small classifieds. This week there are: .....(just goes to fetch paper to count)....30 exactly.

This is counting the number of employment adverts, not the individual jobs advertised - as some adverts list different vacancies. In the job centre the number of vacancies has risen too, from a low of around 20 to over 40 now.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8245352.stm

UK employment market 'recovering'

The UK jobs market is starting to show signs of recovery, according to a survey of recruitment agencies.

The research, produced by Markit Economics, finds "marginal increases" in both permanent and temporary appointments in August. For permanent staff, this is the first increase since early 2007.

It surely looks like green shoots to me - tiny ones, but definitely green.

The BBC's credibity as anything other than a mouth piece for Nulabour has long disappeared. "Please relect labour so our comfortable overpaid cushy all expenses paid jobs are safe." As for green shhots just wait until the governement spending cuts and tax increase arrive, this temporarty illusion will soon fade away.

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