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Apparently, it was a clash between the extreme right-wing English protection league who are anti-Islam, and an anti-fascist group. In Birmingham’s shiny new European-style “cafe culture†bullring shopping centre as well...

This and the Millwall football violence a few days ago. Not mentioned on HPC was it? Not looking good anyway...

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Apparently, it was a clash between the extreme right-wing English protection league who are anti-Islam, and an anti-fascist group. In Birmingham’s shiny new European-style “cafe culture†bullring shopping centre as well...

This and the Millwall football violence a few days ago. Not mentioned on HPC was it? Not looking good anyway...

Glad I decided to stay home and read a book today.

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Apparently, it was a clash between the extreme right-wing English protection league who are anti-Islam, and an anti-fascist group. In Birmingham’s shiny new European-style “cafe culture†bullring shopping centre as well...

This and the Millwall football violence a few days ago. Not mentioned on HPC was it? Not looking good anyway...

It doesn't say who caused the violence.

A planned demonstration in Birmingham against Islamic fundamentalism, by The English Defence League, resulted in angry clashes with anti-fascist campaigners.

Gangs of men and youths hurled bottles at one another and pelted riot police with bricks as trouble erupted in the New Street area of the city, close to the main train station.

The disorder, which involved around 250 people, spilled onto the adjoining Bennetts Hill - a street lined with a number of pubs popular with shoppers.

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Well, if you mean "who started it" - you're right. But I promise you, and you can flame me for stereotyping, but on the news item on TV the camera was pointing at some portly 30 and 40-something year olds in bomber jackets and jeans, shaved heads, hurling abuse while the police tried to keep the groups separate. The anti-fascist group looked younger and somewhat dispersed, shouting back in defence.

Maybe I've just fallen for Sky's portrayal, but it looked like the aggression was from the English protection league.

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It doesn't say who caused the violence.

Given the EPL is by its own admission formed from football hooligan groups I'm sure they have no stomach for mindless violence on a shaky pretext. :rolleyes:

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/c...icle6824062.ece

It was supposed to be a “peaceful†protest by a group opposed to Islamic law and what it perceives as radical Islam. Or at least that is how the right-wing English Defence League (EDL) would have liked Saturday’s demonstration to be received.

But many had their doubts. Chief among them, the West Midlands Police, which spent the previous fortnight meeting Muslim community leaders to ensure that they told their followers to stay away.

Less than a month earlier, a visit by EDL supporters to the city ended in a feud between them and counter-demonstrators, mainly of Asian backgrounds, and 35 people were arrested.

About 100 EDL supporters descended on Birmingham on Saturday morning, some carrying signs reading “Islamic Extremists Out†and “Make Britain Safeâ€. Others screamed insults against Allah and Islam as they made their way to the Figure of Eight pub on Broad Street.

They remained “completely well behaved†on the premises, according to Mark Tanner, the pub’s manager. The demonstrators left the pub at approximately 2pm and headed for their allocated protest site at Lancaster Circus.

By that point, The Times understands that police had arrested 21 counter-demonstrators, mainly of Muslim backgrounds, at Waterloo Street and Digbeth High Street.

About 30 or so counter-protesters clashed with EDL supporters as they made their way to Lancaster Circus. They punched and threw bottles before police intervened. About 60 counter-protesters then tried to storm Bennetts Wine Bar where some EDL supporters were being held by police.

“They wore bandanas over their faces and were shouting and screaming,†said Sarah Edwards, a witness. “We were so scared ... It’s shocking to see this in our streets.â€

Suggest it was the 'counter-protesters' who were violent much like the UAF thugs when they turn out.

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Well, if you mean "who started it" - you're right. But I promise you, and you can flame me for stereotyping, but on the news item on TV the camera was pointing at some portly 30 and 40-something year olds in bomber jackets and jeans, shaved heads, hurling abuse while the police tried to keep the groups separate. The anti-fascist group looked younger and somewhat dispersed, shouting back in defence.

Maybe I've just fallen for Sky's portrayal, but it looked like the aggression was from the English protection league.

Are they a splinter faction of the Cats Protection League?

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Well, if you mean "who started it" - you're right. But I promise you, and you can flame me for stereotyping, but on the news item on TV the camera was pointing at some portly 30 and 40-something year olds in bomber jackets and jeans, shaved heads, hurling abuse while the police tried to keep the groups separate. The anti-fascist group looked younger and somewhat dispersed, shouting back in defence.

Maybe I've just fallen for Sky's portrayal, but it looked like the aggression was from the English protection league.

Given the EPL is by its own admission formed from football hooligan groups I'm sure they have no stomach for mindless violence on a shaky pretext.

An emerging consensus then?

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Are they a splinter faction of the Cats Protection League?

The (English) cats protection league is a subset of the English protection league, certainly. I obviously meant "defense", though this could also be applied to poor, defenceless kittens too.

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An emerging consensus then?

I'm sure there are people on both sides "up for it".

But its clear provocation, they want a reaction.

There is a reason the march wasn't held in Hyde Park right?

And lets not have the "they can march wherever they want in a free country" line, they can and they have but when the Orangemen use that excuse nobody is particularly fooled by it so I don't see this as any different.

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did you know that there had been riots involving hundreds of muslims attacking pubs in luton for the past two weekends?

no, because there was a major media blackout of the disturbances.

there was some disturbance outside belmarsh prison tonight involving 100-200 muslim demonstrators. my car has been vandalised. i doubt this will make the news either.

i'm not condoning the hooligans at west ham v millwall, but it was a couple of hundred thugs wanting a fight with each other and it commanded the front pages of the newspapers and the bbc website for 2 days!

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i'm not condoning the hooligans at west ham v millwall, but it was a couple of hundred thugs wanting a fight with each other and it commanded the front pages of the newspapers and the bbc website for 2 days!

...agreed ...this is just a diversion to ignore the real news.... <_<

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there was some disturbance outside belmarsh prison tonight involving 100-200 muslim demonstrators. my car has been vandalised. i doubt this will make the news either.

You'd be better off leaving your car with a relative I expect during your time at her majestys pleasure

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did you know that there had been riots involving hundreds of muslims attacking pubs in luton for the past two weekends?

no, because there was a major media blackout of the disturbances.

there was some disturbance outside belmarsh prison tonight involving 100-200 muslim demonstrators. my car has been vandalised. i doubt this will make the news either.

i'm not condoning the hooligans at west ham v millwall, but it was a couple of hundred thugs wanting a fight with each other and it commanded the front pages of the newspapers and the bbc website for 2 days!

They often put a DA Notice on Muslims rioting in Britain. They also never report the Muslims smashing up all the French and Dutch cities either. Can't think why.

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Race Riots. In other words "Poor people fighting and hating poor people of another colour".

Does it matter who started what >? I can tell you it was probably started by some Oxford or Cambridge educated toff who was under orders from Daddy.

Its just a blood sport. A diversion to stop the poor turning on the Government.

It is highly effective though. It doesnt make it right.

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Race Riots. In other words "Poor people fighting and hating poor people of another colour".

Does it matter who started what >? I can tell you it was probably started by some Oxford or Cambridge educated toff who was under orders from Daddy.

Its just a blood sport. A diversion to stop the poor turning on the Government.

It is highly effective though. It doesnt make it right.

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90 people were arrested after violent thugs brought Birmingham to a standstill yesterday as they rampaged through the city centre, brandishing sticks and hurling bricks at massed ranks of riot police.

Birmingham city centre protests

It was the second time in a month that rival rallies by the the right-wing English Defence League and socialist protesters sent scared shoppers scattering in search of safety.

At the height of the trouble a gang of yobs laid seige to Bennett’s pub on Bennett’s Hill, where cops had corralled more than 100 boozed-up protesters inside.

Last night, a Birmingham MP criticised the West Midlands Police operation designed to contain trouble and called for an inquiry into their handling of the explosive situation.

Cops had been aware for four weeks that the English Defence League planned a second rally in the city, after an August 8 protest ended in violence and arrests.

But negotiations with the group counted for nothing when the protesters ignored an agreed schedule, and made their way into the New Street area to confront anti-fascist rivals.

What followed was more than three hours of running battles in the streets. Terrified shoppers locked themselves inside stores and cafes as they tried to avoid the fighting.

More here with video:

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-sto...97319-24619529/

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Apparently, it was a clash between the extreme right-wing English protection league who are anti-Islam, and an anti-fascist group. In Birmingham’s shiny new European-style “cafe culture†bullring shopping centre as well...

This and the Millwall football violence a few days ago. Not mentioned on HPC was it? Not looking good anyway...

Their is a word in Islam describing non Islamic people describing them as second class when a race or religion believes they are of a superior level than expect problema I am no religious expert but I am certain the July bombings has nothing to do with true Islam but I didnt see too much outcry from muslim powers that be over such a disgrace to Islam but when a Dutch newspaper did some offensive cartoons all hell broke loose the quicker this country states things as they are and fairly reports no to master race crimes and that includes Islamic thugs as well as white thugs and if core Islamic people dont condem violence in their name our media should ask why not

take wife swap the crap is white the upstanding is black same with the jeramy karl sorry bad spelling its about time for fair honest reporting my views anyway be balanced

I dont know the position in Birmingham but if a group is protesting against Islamic fundermentalism sounds fair such a group should consist mainly with Islamic people assuming this wasnt the case and asians was fighting such a group this indicates asians support Islamic fundermentalism and if this is the case state it

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I dont know the position in Birmingham but if a group is protesting against Islamic fundermentalism sounds fair such a group should consist mainly with Islamic people assuming this wasnt the case and asians was fighting such a group this indicates asians support Islamic fundermentalism and if this is the case state it

Yes its as simple as that isn't it. :rolleyes: Fortunately football hooligans are known for their highly accurate chanting and nuanced articulacy. "WE DON'T HATE MUSLIMS PER SE, JUST SPECIFICALLY FUNDAMENTALISTS WHO ACT UPON IT OUTSIDE THE USUAL CIVIC AND THEOLOGICAL FORUMS! OI! OI! OI!" I don't think.

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I was in New Street Birmingham at the time of the supposed race riots and I didnt notice anything out of the ordinary, aside from the slightly increased police presence. There certainly did not seem to be any ethnic/racial tension in the air unless I'm missing something.

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"Race Riots Turn Nasty In Birmingham"

Aren't race riots nasty by default?

Or were they pleasant race riots just before they turned nasty?

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Sorry, couldn't help being a smart@rse

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