babesagainstmachines Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) They can put a man on the moon They can eradicate smallpox They can send half of all school leavers to university They can win the "War on Terror" They can put half a dozen cameras on every town centre street to check up on YOU But they can't cap banker's bonuses. Oh no, that would be too hard Remind me who is in charge? Edited September 4, 2009 by dazednconfused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentimmo Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 And all this crap about how "talent will be enticed elsewhere". Puuh-leaaze ! Message to AD : If you can't cap the bonuses, then step aside and let someone who can, do the job for you. Or tax them instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHAL Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 They can put a man on the moonThey can eradicate smallpox They can send half of all school leavers to university They can win the "War on Terror" They can put half a dozen cameras on every town centre street to check up on YOU But they can't cap banker's bonuses. Oh no, that would be too hard Remind me who is in charge? The bankers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarman001 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Darling actually said this? I just can't believe it - and the nation sits here and takes it all up it's @rse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarman001 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 What did Brown say about Afghan? It's the right thing to do? I MUST know if he said this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody777 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 BBT a bankers bonus tax of 100% will do it simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 They can put a man on the moonThey can eradicate smallpox They can send half of all school leavers to university They can win the "War on Terror" They can put half a dozen cameras on every town centre street to check up on YOU But they can't cap banker's bonuses. Oh no, that would be too hard Remind me who is in charge? Adam Smith?? The Magna Carter? Contract Law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abharrisson Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 If Darling has said this then it's yet another item of overeaction they have found they can't deliver on...what chance for Turners bizarre tax the profits of the banks as they are socially unproductive... none. Its all just so much waffle and sound bites.. these guys haven't even thought through the things they "promise" before they kick off.... turner hadn't even worked out that he doesn't actually control tax rates before he came up with his cure all.. meanwhile still not one reasoned reflection on the canadian model which has suffered hardly at all through all this. While I am sure mimickig the model in its entirety might not work.. you never know there may be some lessosn to learn there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichB Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 If you ban bonuses then how do you provide performance related pay? Is commission a bonus? If not they will simply apply it as a comission charge. If a waiter earns 3x salary due to tips will you ban that - or is it only in financial companies? How about estate agents, salesmen or recruiters who would be more than happy to earn over 100% bonus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsballs Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 He might be correct. However, i know an increasing amount of people that have the potential to take things into their own hands and follow them home with baseball bats tucked out of sight but within easy reach. In the good times the one million on the dole couldn't be bothered to work. Now we have an extra 1,500,000 on the dole who want to work. They've got a hell of a lot of time to think about the reasons why they can't feed their kids or pay the rent. The bankers have been very brave to flaunt this. They'll get theres sooner rather than later. Yes there is an amount of laziness and ignorance in the general population but history has proven that an element of our society aren't shrinking violets when the sh1t hits the fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stars Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 It would be very hard to enforce because there is no complainant / victim It's a barmy idea anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichB Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 He might be correct. However, i know an increasing amount of people that have the potential to take things into their own hands and follow them home with baseball bats tucked out of sight but within easy reach.In the good times the one million on the dole couldn't be bothered to work. Now we have an extra 1,500,000 on the dole who want to work. They've got a hell of a lot of time to think about the reasons why they can't feed their kids or pay the rent. The bankers have been very brave to flaunt this. They'll get theres sooner rather than later. Yes there is an amount of laziness and ignorance in the general population but history has proven that an element of our society aren't shrinking violets when the sh1t hits the fan. Surely the rankings should be Politicians, btl'ers, people with stupidly big mortgages they cant hope to ever pay off, then the bankers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebenstein Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Again bankers are not in possession of special and unique talent - rather they just have a Government license to create fiat credit out of thin air. Give me a laser printer and the right to issue legal tender and I could do much the same. Of course Darling can stop bonuses. Or alternatively he could restrict banks to only lending from core capital. Then we could see how special and unique their talent really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr ray Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Of course its unenforceable. Darling makes the same mistake he has made before and tells the truth. The rhetoric about controlling bankers pay was just that - rhetoric to make the sheeple think the money which is being stolen from them and given to the financiers has strings attached. And its quite correct that there should not be wage controls. Personally I hate seeing footballers earning so much so I don't buy the replica shirts or pay to watch a game but I wouldn't want Gordon Brown telling football clubs how much they are allowed to pay even if high footballer wages are damaging our young people by making them think they can get rich by kicking a ball about and shagging Essex girls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikthe20 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) This whole "stop the bonuses" thing is a diversion. The real issue is regulation and the fraud committed giving people and companies loans on overvalued assets. However, this whole bonuses thing diverts from that, and from the criminal investigations and prosecutions that should be taking place. And the diversion appears to be working. Edited September 4, 2009 by mikthe20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DissipatedYouthIsValuable Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) Just shoot a few of them and refuse to pay interest on national debt. Job done. I reckon a few dozen headshots will calm them down. All we need is a list and some good sniper rifles. They're all just narcissistic psychopaths who think they're geniuses. Edited September 4, 2009 by DissipatedYouthIsValuable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr ray Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 This whole "stop the bonuses" thing is a diversion. The real issue is regulation and the fraud committed giving people and companies loans on overvalued assets. However, this whole bonuses thing diverts from the that, and from the criminal investigations and prosecutions that should be taking place. And the diversion appears to be working. Quite so. The bonus people like woshisname from RBS got was based on mispricing the assets held by the bank. If the valuations had been transparent he would have got nothing. Interestingly, this government introduced bonuses for consultant medical staff against the advice of the profession. They are called clinical excellence awards and reward anything but clinical excellence. Obviously people who want an award change their behaviour in the way determined by the government and take on more managerial roles which is more likely to earn a bonus than clinical work. I know people applying for awards who only do 3.5 hours of clinical work a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DissipatedYouthIsValuable Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Quite so.The bonus people like woshisname from RBS got was based on mispricing the assets held by the bank. If the valuations had been transparent he would have got nothing. Interestingly, this government introduced bonuses for consultant medical staff against the advice of the profession. They are called clinical excellence awards and reward anything but clinical excellence. Obviously people who want an award change their behaviour in the way determined by the government and take on more managerial roles which is more likely to earn a bonus than clinical work. I know people applying for awards who only do 3.5 hours of clinical work a week. Bastards hire and reward in their own image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLondonLondon Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Any bank that is no longer receiving state support is free to pay their staff whatever the hell they like, as long as they have the support of their shareholders. Why should they cap bankers bonuses? Because they get paid more than you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstrooper Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 STOP giving our taxpayers money to them simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa3 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Again bankers are not in possession of special and unique talent - rather they just have a Government license to create fiat credit out of thin air. Give me a laser printer and the right to issue legal tender and I could do much the same. Of course Darling can stop bonuses. Or alternatively he could restrict banks to only lending from core capital. Then we could see how special and unique their talent really is. Indeed you understand the fundamental issue. The answer imo is to take away their ability to create money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Spart Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 They can put a man on the moonThey can eradicate smallpox They can send half of all school leavers to university They can win the "War on Terror" They can put half a dozen cameras on every town centre street to check up on YOU But they can't cap banker's bonuses. Oh no, that would be too hard Remind me who is in charge? If they can't enforce rules on banker bonuses then they can't force you to pay tax either. So don't. Time for a tax strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr ray Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Any bank that is no longer receiving state support is free to pay their staff whatever the hell they like, as long as they have the support of their shareholders. Why should they cap bankers bonuses? Because they get paid more than you? I would agree with the principle of what you say but unfortunately in practice the shareholders are almost all other banks or financial institutions so it is a case of leaving the fox to guard the chickens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzly bear Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 they can enforce a 50% tax rate on those earning more than £150k so why can't they enforce a 75% tax rate on earnings of more than £300k etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Spart Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) Not wishing to get off topic but here's another one : There's more guns on the streets of Britain than ever before - so they send the army to Asia! WTF is that about? Edited September 4, 2009 by Dave Spart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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