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I'm not a New labour supporter and things under Gordon Brown are a mess, but surely the Blair / Brown government must have done something good, something successful.

What would you nominate as a New Labour success story?

My nomination is the introduction of Right to Roam, althought it is fairly limited in scope and it was hardly a top priority issue. But it benefitted many people and it was in line with genuine social-democratic principles.

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L is for Labour.

L is for Lice.

Yes, but...

C is for Conservative

C is for Confidence Tricksters

B is for BNP

B is for Bastards

L is for LibDem

L is for Lacklustre

S is for SNP

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P is for Plonkers (ploncau)

U is for UKIP

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I suppose at a push,we could credit them with showing us that socialism/communism should NEVER be allowed to govern any country ever.....because it corrupts,decays and destroys everything it touches.

We've also been given the benefit of insight into their nasty little control mechanisms too,so forearmed with that knowledge we may have a chance to implement some real change(that we most certainly can believe in)

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What Has New Labour Done Right?

From whose point of view?

If there is indeed a supra-national plan to reduce all sovereign nations to impotence and bankrupcy in order to impose a NWO then much has been accomplished by New Labour.

If not, then utter incompetence is probably the most accurate description.

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Amongst all the manure there have been the odd rare gem:

I'll add a second vote for right-to-roam.

I quite liked the way Ronnie Biggs was made to serve most of his sentence.

Tony Blair steppping up at the time of 9/11 to support the US was impressive.

There have been real (if insufficient) attempts to halt the ballooning of the welfare state bill - cuts to Supporting People and the introduction of the LHA.

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My nomination is the introduction of Right to Roam, althought it is fairly limited in scope and it was hardly a top priority issue. But it benefitted many people and it was in line with genuine social-democratic principles.

The right to roam was a total ****-up, whic is a shame as Scotland produced a wonderful model of how to pass such legislation in the Land Reform Act:

http://www.outdooraccess-scotland.com/defa...nSubContentID=0

As for what labour have done right, I'd say not much. Free museums was a good one and some equality & diversity law has been good, although they've gone over the top in many other areas. They mucked up Scottish Devolution with some very poor decisions, so although it was a good thing to do, they ruined it when they did it.

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what about not let house prices get out of control?

gordon kept his promise on that one

On a more serious note the failure of labour helps parties like the BNP gain support and give them a chance of taking back Britain.Ban the burkah.

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Err, they introduced SIPPS, probably a tory idea, so at least youve got more chance to bypass the corruption/financial sector.

Err, they balanced a couple of budgets in the first two years (by sticking to tory spending plans!)

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Err, they introduced SIPPS, probably a tory idea, so at least youve got more chance to bypass the corruption/financial sector.

Tory idea introduced by Nigel Lawson in 1989...

'The evolution of Sipps':

http://www.investmentweek.co.uk/investment...evolution-sipps

It has been 20 years since former Chancellor Nigel Lawson gave the green light to self-invested personal pensions. In his 1989 Budget speech, he vowed to "make it easier for people in personal pension schemes to manage their own investments".

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National minimum wage.

Maternity leave up to 6 months & Paternity leave

Reform of the state pension for women.

Building programme in schools (sneer as much as you like, the Thatcher/Major governments saw me educated in a portakabin with textbooks, one between three, that claimed there was somewhere called Rhodesia).

Ban on fox hunting

Political settlement in Northern Ireland.

Repeal of Section 28

Civil partnerships and making them apply to military benefits.

Accepting the decision of ECoHR re: gays in the military

The National Childcare Strategy

85k more nurses, 32k more doctors, 30k more teachers

Gift aid

Legislation firmed up on leave

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Just off the top of my head.

Oh right, sorry, a thought for a minute there we were grown ups having a talk, but actually we're kids in the playground so we have to say "NOTHING. HAHAHAHAHA." or nobody will play conkers with us at lunchtime.

Their complete abandonment of socialist principles in favour of Thatcherite voodoo and their cowardice in appeasing the Daily Mail nutters is obviously the black mark against their name and all the bad things they've done basically stem from that, including Jack Straw's vile authoritarianism and Iraq.

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Building programme in schools (sneer as much as you like, the Thatcher/Major governments saw me educated in a portakabin with textbooks, one between three, that claimed there was somewhere called Rhodesia).

I can confirm this practice carried on with me as late as 2002 under Blair. To be honest id be happy for all schools to be portakabins if it meant lower taxes. You just dont take your coat off in winter. Imagine the heat savings and carbon savings. Our public servants seem to think spunking billions on massive facilities is something to be proud of. I see it as something to be ashamed of, portakabins do the job for a fraction of the cost.

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I can confirm this practice carried on with me as late as 2002 under Blair. To be honest id be happy for all schools to be portakabins if it meant lower taxes. You just dont take your coat off in winter. Imagine the heat savings and carbon savings. Our public servants seem to think spunking billions on massive facilities is something to be proud of. I see it as something to be ashamed of, portakabins do the job for a fraction of the cost.

I'd sooner see the Houses of Parliament sold off for conversion into a Mosque complex, Buckingham Palace sold to the Walt Disney Corporation and Whitehall sold to the Wilsons for conversion into executive rental properties than suffer children being expected to learn in that sort of environment.

Seriously, schools should be ******ing Cathedrals.

So I guess we'll have to disagree there.

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I'm not a New labour supporter and things under Gordon Brown are a mess, but surely the Blair / Brown government must have done something good, something successful.

What would you nominate as a New Labour success story?

My nomination is the introduction of Right to Roam, althought it is fairly limited in scope and it was hardly a top priority issue. But it benefitted many people and it was in line with genuine social-democratic principles.

Not sure I agree. I've never been that convinced that people should be allowed just to wander over private land whenever they feel like it, especially as they aren't required to contribute anything towards its upkeep and management. You are right that it's not top priority - in fact it's positively trivial in the great scheme of things.

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Repealed Section 28

Banned fox hunting.

Definatelty don't agree. Even if you agree with the animal welfare reasons for doing it (which I don't), it's plain that this was not the reason why it was done. It was done as a pathetic "class war" exercise in an attempt to persecute an discriminate against the types people who labour thought (wrongly) were the types who participated in it. Additionally, it has proved a terrible piece of legislation from a technical point of view as it is very, very difficult to raise a successful prosecution under it and, in reality, it doesn't really ban what the greeny types thought it would ban.

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I hestitate to say anything good about the clowns, but...

Three things:

- TDS (It's not perfect but it's better than before)

- HMO legislation (I like the idea of having been less likely to burn to death in the shared houses I've stayed in)

- Civil partnerships (I was against it before, but they persauded me and I think they hit exactly the right note by making something entirely the same as marriage but called something different. However I think it should also have been available to all in the interests of equality.)

Of course, there isn't enough room on the internet to type all the things the beggurs have screwed up, and things that matter quite a bit like the economy. The score is about 3 good things v approximately 456789475348975318975615378945348976 bad things.

I'd add the NMW to the list, but I think they worsened the problem by setting it too low and not having a higher rate for London.

Banning fox hunting is on my list of bad things they did; done out of pure spite to appease the lefties because they hadn't done any of the stuff they should have done like renationalise the railways.

Wasting money on education is also on my list of bad things they've done. I'm not sure quite how they've managed it; but somehow they have managed to spend more money on education yet churn out a great number of people completely unfit for work. Something of a strange mixture of people who have degrees but can't type a letter, that can't count, that can't work outside becuase they've been getting boiled alive in overheated classrooms since 5, but who know about recycling and global warming.

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I've never been that convinced that people should be allowed just to wander over private land whenever they feel like it, especially as they aren't required to contribute anything towards its upkeep and management.

But we are required to contribute towards its upkeep and management...

DEFRA, UK -- CAP Payments Search:

http://cap-payments.defra.gov.uk/

Welcome to UK CAP Payments. On this website you will find details of amounts received by UK beneficiaries under the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP). This information is provided in accordance with Commission Regulation (EC) No 259/2008, which requires the UK to publish details of recipients of CAP subsidy payments on a single website.

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Building programme in schools (sneer as much as you like, the Thatcher/Major governments saw me educated in a portakabin with textbooks, one between three, that claimed there was somewhere called Rhodesia).

I would agree, but those schools will have to be paid for a hundredfold because of the PFI sell-out. Theres also not much point in having schools that dont educate the children. 97% A-level pass rate anyone? what. a. joke.

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