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Hmmm

I work for Network Rail and had an interview on Monday for a track maintenance engineer role with the maintenance function. The interview lasted 90 minutes, 30 of which pertained to technical knowledge, the other 60 was spent discussing initiatives for cost cutting and how I would deal with section managers who had worked one way for 25 years and refused to change.

Think I'll steer clear now. :lol:

I read this post on the Network rail thread, and felt this is worth a thread on it's own.

The first people who are unable to adapt in an organisation will be forced out or sacked first. I've seen this on the ground - these people have racked up warnings, disciplinaries or have had to resign because of the heat that's been turned up. There are some older people coming up to retirement who have an exemplary record for years, and have been reduced to tears by younger managers that have come in, in the last 12 months.

This is a great period of change in the work place - there are hundreds of younger, hungrier obedient workers behind you!

Adapt or you will be replaced.

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I read this post on the Network rail thread, and felt this is worth a thread on it's own.

The first people who are unable to adapt in an organisation will be forced out or sacked first. I've seen this on the ground - these people have racked up warnings, disciplinaries or have had to resign because of the heat that's been turned up. There are some older people coming up to retirement who have an exemplary record for years, and have been reduced to tears by younger managers that have come in, in the last 12 months.

This is a great period of change in the work place - there are hundreds of younger, hungrier obedient workers behind you!

Adapt or you will be replaced.

No, change shouldn't be allowed and jobs should be done in the way they always have been. We'll dispense with progress and all go back to daubing pictographs on cave walls.

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Just another example that the worst thing you can be in any job is loyal and concienscious.

The basic rule in any job is:

1.) Find out as much specialist knowledge and refuse to share it, therefore making it difficult for them to sack you during compulsory redundancy exercises.

2.) Be as unco-operative and unproductive as possible prior to voluntary redundancy exercises with good compensation packages.

Basically be just as cunning and calculating at the sh1ts at the top.

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I read this post on the Network rail thread, and felt this is worth a thread on it's own.

The first people who are unable to adapt in an organisation will be forced out or sacked first. I've seen this on the ground - these people have racked up warnings, disciplinaries or have had to resign because of the heat that's been turned up. There are some older people coming up to retirement who have an exemplary record for years, and have been reduced to tears by younger managers that have come in, in the last 12 months.

This is a great period of change in the work place - there are hundreds of younger, hungrier obedient workers behind you!

Adapt or you will be replaced.

Survive or Die.

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I'm just saying, change sharpens everyone, and one should embrace and adapt or move on. - the workplace is far more competitive than it was 12 months ago. Some people don't realise that, until it's too late. I've seen a senior Rail Manager go, 2 months ago, still not found work. He's coming up to retirement - redundancy came completely out of the blue.

Please tell your friends, family etc - they better buck up their ideas, or their heads will be on the block.

The workplace, people could just turn up and blag their way through, during the fat easy credit years. That time is over.

I know a cleaners who turn up to work, get paid for three hours, but do all the work in only two, and go home early. Now the contract has been taken over by another company, they have to stay for the full three hours. They scractch their head and wonder why LOL. You're paid for three hours, the business owns you for three hours, I explain. LOL.

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I know a cleaners who turn up to work, get paid for three hours, but do all the work in only two, and go home early. Now the contract has been taken over by another company, they have to stay for the full three hours. They scractch their head and wonder why LOL. You're paid for three hours, the business owns you for three hours, I explain. LOL.

Sounds like they are outperforming their boss's expectations in cleaning and outperforming you slightly in mental agility

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I'm just saying, change sharpens everyone, and one should embrace and adapt or move on. - the workplace is far more competitive than it was 12 months ago. Some people don't realise that, until it's too late. I've seen a senior Rail Manager go, 2 months ago, still not found work. He's coming up to retirement - redundancy came completely out of the blue.

Please tell your friends, family etc - they better buck up their ideas, or their heads will be on the block.

The workplace, people could just turn up and blag their way through, during the fat easy credit years. That time is over.

I know a cleaners who turn up to work, get paid for three hours, but do all the work in only two, and go home early. Now the contract has been taken over by another company, they have to stay for the full three hours. They scractch their head and wonder why LOL. You're paid for three hours, the business owns you for three hours, I explain. LOL.

No. The mistake the rail manager made was to not learn a specific technical part of the job and keep the knowledge to himself.

My experience in the engineering profession would indicate that if he had done, he would be re-hired a few months later on a high-paying contract.

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Sounds like they are outperforming their boss's expectations in cleaning and outperforming you slightly in mental agility

Haha.

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Stars don't you follow?

E.g. A group of cleaners for example are paid for three hours to clean a doctors surgery. They do all the areas in 2 hours, Supervisor checks the work, and says ok you can go home early. This of course may not happen everyday.

New company takes over the contract and employs the same workers - even if all the work is done, they must find other chores to do until the 3 hours is over.

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Stars don't you follow?

E.g. A group of cleaners for example are paid for three hours to clean a doctors surgery. They do all the areas in 2 hours, Supervisor checks the work, and says ok you can go home early. This of course may not happen everyday.

New company takes over the contract and employs the same workers - even if all the work is done, they must find other chores to do until the 3 hours is over.

Sounds like the sort of thing the NHS would do.

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Just another example that the worst thing you can be in any job is loyal and concienscious.

The basic rule in any job is:

1.) Find out as much specialist knowledge and refuse to share it, therefore making it difficult for them to sack you during compulsory redundancy exercises.

2.) Be as unco-operative and unproductive as possible prior to voluntary redundancy exercises with good compensation packages.

Basically be just as cunning and calculating at the sh1ts at the top.

That is sadly good advice - Look after Number 1.

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Although they probably wouldn't sack all their surgeons because a young manager who has only been their 12 months wants them to "change their ways".

I'd never piss off anyone who might end up wielding a knife in one of my body cavities.

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I read this post on the Network rail thread, and felt this is worth a thread on it's own.

The first people who are unable to adapt in an organisation will be forced out or sacked first. I've seen this on the ground - these people have racked up warnings, disciplinaries or have had to resign because of the heat that's been turned up. There are some older people coming up to retirement who have an exemplary record for years, and have been reduced to tears by younger managers that have come in, in the last 12 months.

This is a great period of change in the work place - there are hundreds of younger, hungrier obedient workers behind you!

Adapt or you will be replaced.

Yeah yeah yeah

blah blah blah

Heard it all before.

This sh*t is always used against older workers. Other sh*t is used against younger workers.

Same sh*t...same reasons

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I'm just saying what I have seen on the ground.

Employee for the same firm for 10 years, first written warning over a minor matter.

Another has received two verbal warnings, a professional of long standing service for refusing to work public holidays

Edited to protect myself!

Edited by Pseudo Lord Sandwich

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Stars don't you follow?

E.g. A group of cleaners for example are paid for three hours to clean a doctors surgery. They do all the areas in 2 hours, Supervisor checks the work, and says ok you can go home early. This of course may not happen everyday.

New company takes over the contract and employs the same workers - even if all the work is done, they must find other chores to do until the 3 hours is over.

ahh - other work

It sounded like you were describing them being made to sit still for two hours, or write out lines.

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I'm just saying what I have seen on the ground.

Employee for the same firm for 10 years, first written warning over a minor matter.

Another has recieved two verbal warnings, a professional of long standing service for refusing to work public holidays

Edited, for anonyminity reasons.

If you wanna learn how to be scared of your shadow then go ahead.

The rest of us will just get on with dealing with the same old bull sh*t if that's alright....

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I'm just saying what I have seen on the ground.

Employee for the same firm for 10 years, first written warning over a minor matter.

Another has received two verbal warnings, a professional of long standing service for refusing to work public holidays

Edited to protect myself!

Since the govt sort of outmoded bank holidays with holiday allowance I'd thought it was only possible not to work a bank holiday if it was taken as part of agreed holiday allowance. For us, on bank holidays if the store was trading, staff would be expected to be there unless it had been booked as part of holiday allowance. Unless there's something in the contract maybe.

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If you wanna learn how to be scared of your shadow then go ahead.

The rest of us will just get on with dealing with the same old bull sh*t if that's alright....

I've been around long enough to know how to play the slippery bullsh1t promotion ladder. It's all a game, but the intensity has just been ramped up a couple of notches.

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Deleted to defuse controversy. Please see Steve Cook post for details :rolleyes:

Edited by Pond321

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Hmmm,

In the last 5 days I got promoted. My basic just went up from £62.5K to £66K. I got $37K in stock options on top of my £10K 'behavioral' bonus. I also netted about £27K in sales bonus.

And I do not work in banking.

Maybe the moaners just have a bad attitude and hence should be sacked?

(puts on tin helmet :rolleyes: )

Why did you feel the need to tell everyone exactly what you were earning? Particularly in the context of you calling as moaners those who have concerns for their jobs.

Either you are indeed earning this in which case you are a bit of a sad-bugger for needing to boast.

Or, you are not earning this amount and are just making it up for our consumption, in which case you are such a monumentally sad-bugger I wouldn't even know where to start.....

Edited by Steve Cook

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I read this post on the Network rail thread, and felt this is worth a thread on it's own.

The first people who are unable to adapt in an organisation will be forced out or sacked first. I've seen this on the ground - these people have racked up warnings, disciplinaries or have had to resign because of the heat that's been turned up. There are some older people coming up to retirement who have an exemplary record for years, and have been reduced to tears by younger managers that have come in, in the last 12 months.

This is a great period of change in the work place - there are hundreds of younger, hungrier obedient workers behind you!

Adapt or you will be replaced.

Yawn....

My last job, and it will be my last job, was working for a large multinational. During my seven years of hell I saw it all. Toward the end I got so disillusioned that I started taking the piss. An investigation proceeded and I recieved 120 pages of "evidence" recorded delivery (nothing criminal I hasten to add). I was delighted. It motivated me to hand my notice and spend my days doing something I actually enjoyed instead of being in the company of lunatics.

We live in a world where the majority of problems are actually symptoms of over production/consumption, and these maniacs what us to be more "efficient"?

They really are mad.

Yeah yeah yeah

blah blah blah

Heard it all before.

This sh*t is always used against older workers. Other sh*t is used against younger workers.

Same sh*t...same reasons

Working longer and harder for less money, that's all the tossers want.

Yes.

Edited by dom

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Why did you feel the need to tell everyone exactly what you were earning? Particularly in the context of you calling as moaners those who have concerns for their jobs.

Either you are indeed earning this in which case you are a bit of a sad-bugger for needing to boast.

Or, you are not earning this amount and are just making it up for our consumption, in which case you are such a monumentally sad-bugger I wouldn't even know where to start.....

My point is that some people who have a bad attitude deserved to be sacked. Other people, who are prepared to adapt and learn new skills, are thriving. This is not a boast, it is an example.

Discuss.

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I read this post on the Network rail thread, and felt this is worth a thread on it's own.

The first people who are unable to adapt in an organisation will be forced out or sacked first. I've seen this on the ground - these people have racked up warnings, disciplinaries or have had to resign because of the heat that's been turned up. There are some older people coming up to retirement who have an exemplary record for years, and have been reduced to tears by younger managers that have come in, in the last 12 months.

This is a great period of change in the work place - there are hundreds of younger, hungrier obedient workers behind you!

Adapt or you will be replaced.

Better to die than grovel to c*ck suckers and a*sehole like that.

Of course remember to take a few of the d*ck heads with you.

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