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http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/homepage/Tr...il/article.html

A trainspotter sparked a terrorist alert when he innocently stopped to take photos of some unusual engines.

Stephen White, of Yatton, snapped the pictures of the diesel shunters while on holiday in Wales with his sister Helen and her two children.

But unbeknown to the 43-year-old coach driver, he was caught on CCTV by cameras at a nearby oil refinery as he took the photographs.

Security camera operators noted the registration number of his sister's car and passed the details on to the police, who traced it to her home in Lincolnshire.

A neighbour gave officers her mobile phone number and they phoned her in the early hours, waking her daughter Jessica, 11, and six-year-old son Bryn, and demanded she take the photos to a police station despite her explaining what her brother had been doing.

Miss White, a 41-year-old civil servant, refused, saying she did not want to interrupt the family holiday.

Police then went to the campsite where the family were staying and again demanded the photos.

Mr White and his sister say they were so annoyed with the officers for not believing that they were not terrorists and for "harassing" them that they refused to hand over the snaps.

The next day, they say, their car was pulled over by a police officer with his blue lights flashing. Again, he demanded the camera and pictures, but the family stood their ground.

Police now say they are satisfied with Mr White's explanation but he says the events have ruined the family's holiday.

Mr White said: "We were treated and hunted as if we were terrorists and a threat to national security, which was ridiculous.

"This has totally ruined the holiday, just because I'm a bit of a train geek who took pictures of some engines.

"The police were totally over the top. They went to my sister's house in Lincolnshire several times and frightened my young niece and nephew.

"Jessica and Bryn were very scared and we had to pretend that it was just a game. They thought I was going to be carted off to prison as a terrorist threat."

The family were camping in Carew, Pembrokeshire, when they decided to visit Milford Haven last Monday. Mr White spotted the engines not realising they were connected with the Murco oil depot, of which he says there was no indication.

The next day a worried neighbour rang Miss White and said police had been to her home three times.

"The police tracked us down from the registration plate on Helen's car," said Mr White. "Their reaction is totally over the top.

"The police officers from Dyfed Powys who came to our campsite were very heavy handed and were threatening to send Special Branch round to see us and the house."

A spokesman for Dyfed Powys police said: "Officers sought an explanation from Mr White regarding his activities following a report of suspicious behaviour at an oil refinery site in west Wales. Following an explanation from him, no further action was taken."

This is another step by the NuLabour nazi state to criminalise ordinary people doing mundane things and to get them acclimatised to thugs in uniforms telling them what they can and cannot do. Britain is changing. Fast.

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I know it's difficult at the time, but if plod ever comes up to you when you're taking pictures in a public place, remind them that they need a court order to get you to show or delete the photos you've taken.

Don't forget to call their mum a slag as well.

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This is another step by the NuLabour nazi state to criminalise ordinary people doing mundane things and to get them acclimatised to thugs in uniforms telling them what they can and cannot do. Britain is changing. Fast.

And set to get much worse

Soon, the police will be able to issue on the spot fines for a multitude of non crimes

Your habeas corpus rights are gone basically. You are guilty by default and the legal system will make it expensive for ordinary people to mount a defense.

I'm awestruck by the apathy of the British people, centuries of civil liberties and laws designed to protect the innocent have been flushed down the toilet

It's another prescient reminder what a dreadful state the country is in that this can have happened without any resistance.

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this is no joke - clapham is one of their main recruiting grounds where the victoria express timetable is preached daily

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Broadly agreed with the sentiments here. But against which, this bloke wasn't standing on the end of a platform looking for teenagers to bugger, oops, sorry, engine numbers, but loitering outside a location that would certainly be a legitimate target for not only terrorists, but extremist protesters inclined to violence too - an oil refinery.

In this case, the bogies were legitimate in wanting to know what he was taking pics of and why, IMO.

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That is scary.

Where has common sense gone?

This is the most worrying aspect about the surveillance state and ID cards (database), in tandem with the 'guilty unless you can afford to prove yourself innocent' aspect of changes in the law, anyone with the wrong opinion or who doesn't fit in could could be targeted and life could get very uncomfortable.

It's not very British, is it?

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That is scary.

Where has common sense gone?

This is the most worrying aspect about the surveillance state and ID cards (database), in tandem with the 'guilty unless you can afford to prove yourself innocent' aspect of changes in the law, anyone with the wrong opinion or who doesn't fit in could could be targeted and life could get very uncomfortable.

It's not very British, is it?

It's Britain Jim, but not as we know it ......

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I know it's difficult at the time, but if plod ever comes up to you when you're taking pictures in a public place, remind them that they need a court order to get you to show or delete the photos you've taken.

Don't forget to call their mum a slag as well.

Dont think they have 'mums'

Pretty sure gordon rolls them off the same production line as the milliband brothers.

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This si the next level towards the end game. They are probing the public to see what shit they will put up with. If they put up with random harrassment, the next level will be initiated.

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I wonder if the law could be / has been / used against the photograhers who specialise in taking spy shots of secret car prototypes on test. Surely it could be classed as industrial espionage.

This si the next level towards the end game. They are probing the public to see what shit they will put up with. If they put up with random harrassment, the next level will be initiated.
Talk about conspiracty theory! We get these random acts of over zealousness, but that's very different from there being any sort of master plan behind them.

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Talk about conspiracty theory! We get these random acts of over zealousness, but that's very different from there being any sort of master plan behind them.

Right.

So we need ID cards to protect us against terrorists.

We need to give permission to every government department to spy on us at our expense to protect us from terrorists. (No terrorists have ever been caught this way btw)

We need CCTV everywhere to deter terrorists, (Did you know that the police switched OFF the cctv network on the G20 route)

We need to prevent members of the public photographing anything (especially the police) as it may be used in terrorism.

The whole point of passing 'loose' legislation like this is that some coppers will take it to extremes.

Then you can slap his wrist and everyone becomes a little bit more conditioned to not protesting, or taking photos etc etc While the politicians can blame 'bad apples' if anything goes wrong.

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There was a terrific outcry over the British aircraft spotters being imprisoned in Greece. So should we be so surprised at the police response in this case? At least he stayed out of a cell. The worrying thing is that the story has not been picked up by the Murdoch news management system. No scrutiny helps police excess.

It always amazes me that Merseyside, with the biggest concentration of petro-chemical facilities in Europe, has such little evident security.

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Broadly agreed with the sentiments here. But against which, this bloke wasn't standing on the end of a platform looking for teenagers to bugger, oops, sorry, engine numbers, but loitering outside a location that would certainly be a legitimate target for not only terrorists, but extremist protesters inclined to violence too - an oil refinery.

In this case, the bogies were legitimate in wanting to know what he was taking pics of and why, IMO.

Oh dear, they've got to you.

Stop believing everything you are told, there is no need for you to be scared of terrorists blowing up an oil refinery in Wales.

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If you don't mind the fuel shortages and price increases that would probably be caused by a major refinery being out of action for any significant time, then agreed, there's nothing to be worried about.

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This is another step by the NuLabour nazi state to criminalise ordinary people doing mundane things and to get them acclimatised to thugs in uniforms telling them what they can and cannot do. Britain is changing. Fast.

This is exactly what was likely happen from the start due to the over implementation of anti-"terrorist" legislation. Whenever you try to tell people that this stuff is leading us in the direction of a police state you get responses like, [i"]yeah, but....there aint no smoke without fire[/i]" and, "but they aren't going to go round hassling normal people - just Muslims/yardies/foreigners etc" or, my personal fave..."If you aint got anything to hide...etc, etc,etc.".

The problem is, of course, that before too long the legislation does get abused and is being used against people who genuinely have nothing to hide and who clearly aren't terrorists. At that point you realise you're f@cked.

You can't rationalise with people that sooner or later this legislation is going to be used against them.

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If you don't mind the fuel shortages and price increases that would probably be caused by a major refinery being out of action for any significant time, then agreed, there's nothing to be worried about.

Stop watching Sky News and reading the papers.

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If the guy had been someone such as is shown in the photo above, i.e. standing on the end of a platform and photographing premises open to the public, I'd agree with you. On this one occasion, however, I think it's important to note that an oil refinery is a high risk target for a wide range of wack jobs with an equally wide range of motivations, and that the consequences of a successful attack on one would at the very least be significant. Furthermore, the incident only escalated to Daily Wail status because he refused to co-operate with an initial and informal approach as to why he was taking the pics.

That having been said, I truly can't understand the train spotter mentality. I read a feature article about them in a Sunday paper once. Most are not the slightest bit interested in the history, technology or culture of rail transport - their only objective is to note the numbers of as many locomotives or carriages of a given model as they can, with the eventual aim of 'spotting' all of them. They remind me of fanatical vinyl LP collectors who don't like music very much, but just want to add pristine examples of a given series of catalogue numbers to their collection, most of which they'll never play. I once made the mistake of going to a collectors' fair and actually meeting some of these geeks. Me, I collect the things because (if they're properly looked after and played on decent equipment) they sound better than CDs and I like the music recorded on them. But these guys ... At one stall I looked enviously at a very rare early stereo record of Bruckner's 8th symphony, the owner of which was asking for £75. I commented that it must sound lovely, because the Berlin Philharmonic's brass section was world-renowned at the time and the only CD reissue since was made from a worn-out tape and sounds horrible. His reply was that he'd never listened to it and thought that classical music was for poofters (I can't remember the precise epithet he used, but that was the gist of it).

It must be a form of OCD in both cases, I guess.

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On this one occasion, however, I think it's important to note that an oil refinery is a high risk target for a wide range of wack jobs with an equally wide range of motivations, and that the consequences of a successful attack on one would at the very least be significant.

Bigging up the imagined plot just doesn't cut the mustard I'm afraid. He was on public land and took a photo of the view that was freely available to his eyes. I don't care what he's snapping, if he's on his own public property and sees something there before him, then if he wants to photograph it, paint it, or write a poem about it then good for him.

Everyone's so eager to exchange some perceived physical threat for a mortal danger to their humanity these days. It's pathetic.

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If the guy had been someone such as is shown in the photo above, i.e. standing on the end of a platform and photographing premises open to the public, I'd agree with you. On this one occasion, however, I think it's important to note that an oil refinery is a high risk target for a wide range of wack jobs with an equally wide range of motivations, and that the consequences of a successful attack on one would at the very least be significant.

Linky -

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&so...le&resnum=1

All the information you need, took me 5 seconds. Nazi state is here, combined with the small-minded, bullying jobsworth's that pass for police officers in this country. Scary!

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Linky -

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&so...le&resnum=1

All the information you need, took me 5 seconds. Nazi state is here, combined with the small-minded, bullying jobsworth's that pass for police officers in this country. Scary!

Ha ha, just caused me to do a bit of internet stalking over an old flame's house. Wow! I'm going to have to compose myself now. That was a trip down memory lane. :rolleyes:

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this is no joke - clapham is one of their main recruiting grounds where the victoria express timetable is preached daily

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They sure look like terrorists to me... the one in white might even be holding a camera in his hands.

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