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Yes, they do.

Some of the contracts there are VERY well paid indeed - 500, 600 per day. Some of the SAP people are on more. The permi salaries are very good there... well above Swansea average... and probably only rivalled by GPs and Surgeons.

They tried repeatedly to get me to go permie there but, like all consultancies, it would mean 4 nights away from base... which, in English, means working away from home 5 days a week as the 5th day is spent with you on the motorway late on a Friday night driving back from, well, anywhere just in time to get a few hours kip before a very early start on Monday morning. It is NO life IMPO.

Not so bad if you work for an IT Consultancy and you are based/live somewhere in the South East or Midlands but being in S'sea effectively means you are a good 100 miles away, at least, from most IT contracts so it is nothing but stress, stress, stress IMPO.

I offered to go permie there if they could guarantee that I would only work in S'sea - but they could not - and anyhow my heart was never in working at the DVLA and the DVLA 'mentality' nor was I ever convinced about the 'permanace' of being a permie for any company.

I told some boys at Fujitsu that there was no such thing as a permie job anymore and they, IMPO being corporate drones, took it personally... especially when I pointed out to them that when Fujitsu no longer wanted or needed them they would soon be out of the door... I wonder if they are recalling my words, and their IMPO arrogant reaction, this afternoon.

If jobs do go at Fujitsu in S'sea then I suspect it will have a knock-on on some of the higher end house prices in S'sea. Bottom line for an IT worker, such as myself, is that you can earn 100K working for a big IT consultancy if you manage to secure one of those rare roles in Wales but, failing that, most Public Sector organisations in Wales actually have complex IT jobs on the same pay-scale as a junior nurse or a admin assistant. Nuts!

What I mean is, if you lose your 100K IT contract/permie 'Big 5' consultancy role in Wales then it is nigh on impossible to replace it with an IT job in the local Council, the Welsh NHS, etc, for even 20% of your previous salary.

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What does SAP mean?

Didn't EDS used to have the contract? Did a lot of the EDS staff keep their jobs and move over to Fujitsu?

What sort of pay would a, say Java programmer, earn working for Fujitsu somewhere like the DVLA?

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I have seen contracts for Java boys at the DVLA for 600 notes per day. I have seen contracts for 300 notes - they couldn't get people to come down from England to Swansea at one point.

I guess there have been a few people there for, what, 3 or 4 years now on 600 per day.

Yes, EDS used to have the contract but they lost it to IBM who then handed it over to Fujitsu when IBM and Fujitsu did some deals amongst each other a few years back. Not sure whether EDS staff kept their jobs or not.

Personally, despite the potentially fabulous wages, I personally would not wish to work in the DVLA. From everything I have heard the mentality is stifling. Life is too short.

Systems, Applications and Products in data processing is SAP. German company, incredibly high earnings at one point in the City if you knew SAP.

I have heard of people earning a couple of K per day at one point. SAP is a German company and you used to find very polite but very dull Germans doing SAP all over the place. If the Germans ever try for a Fourth Reich then I fear that it will be a rejection of SAP that begins it :blink:

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Systems, Applications and Products in data processing is SAP. German company, incredibly high earnings at one point in the City if you knew SAP.

Very good, I thought it was Slow And Painful which has been my experience with it.

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Very good, I thought it was Slow And Painful which has been my experience with it.

Ditto - and very expensive costing companies huge amounts to put in, often because they do not understand it, before costing them even more a few years later to get rid of it.

Anyhow, those Fujitsu jobs must be some of the best earners in S'sea so it will be interesting to see how many go there in S'sea.

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