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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/au...ummer-fightback

Labour's hopes of a summer fightback powered by economic recovery and the NHS row are dashed by a new Guardian/ICM poll showing that the Conservatives have gained ground on key policy areas and are now the overwhelming public choice to form the next government.

Despite a month of policy attacks from Gordon Brown's summer stand-ins at No 10, and controversy over the Conservative commitment to a state-funded NHS, the opposition has extended its lead to 16 points.

Labour has lost the August battle on health, with more voters thinking the Conservatives would improve the NHS than think the party would make it worse. While 48% think healthcare would be better under a Tory government, only 41% agree with Labour warnings that it would be worse. Even 24% of current Labour voters think the Tories would improve the NHS.

The Tory lead on other policies, including education, is bigger.

In an immediate general election, 25% say they would vote Labour – the joint lowest score in Guardian/ICM polling history and the worst for Labour in the series since June last year. The figure has only been lower once, in an ICM poll carried out for another paper during Labour's spring leadership crisis.

Labour support has dropped two points since the July Guardian poll and one point since a more recent ICM survey.

The Conservatives are on 41%, unchanged since the July Guardian poll, although down two on the more recent survey.

So even if you leave a country bankrupt people will still vote for you.

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So even if you leave a country bankrupt people will still vote for you.

25% of workers work in the public sector - not really a suprise that statistic when you consider that the public sector would rather bankrupt the county than reduce their numbers/wages/pensions. See MikeDundee and AbsoluteZero for proof.

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The Electorate is unhappy, but the lemming leap to vote for the Tories is not attractive. Camermoron is a member of the Bullingdon Club along with his claque of monied toffs. That is even less appealing than being an ugly Scot. Despite his boyish looks and affable manner, the public have sussed him, as Obama did, to be a shallow opportunist.

The Tory Party has got used to being out of office and many of their MPs rather like it. It is easy work in Opposition and if your expenses have been cut, making an effort is unrewarding. In their Constituencies, the Tories have lost impetus and their natural support. Without new members they are dying out, bored with their tired rhetoric.

Who have they found to revitalise them? Philip Blond, 'Red Tory'! His world view will go down well with the rank and file - not.

Bring on the motley, they are the only challenge to Labour.

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The worst thing that could happen is a Tory government.

A small Labour majority is probably the best. Sensible policies but the more radical of them can easily be tempered by the Lib Dems and Tories in opposition.

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Do you you think prisoners vote Tory? Come to think of it, the prison population must be about 25% :lol:
ICM interviewed a random sample of 1,004 adults aged 18+ by telephone between 21 and 23 August 2008

Do they now have phones in their cells?

what about only people on the dole will be in on Friday,Saturday and Sunday?

Friday = Work

Sat = Work

Sun = Shopping, as you work all week. <_<

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25% of workers work in the public sector - not really a suprise that statistic when you consider that the public sector would rather bankrupt the county than reduce their numbers/wages/pensions. See MikeDundee and AbsoluteZero for proof.

I'm public sector and I'll never vote labour.

If I get sacked as a result of cut backs, I'll be grateful quite frankly.

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Do you you think prisoners vote Tory? Come to think of it, the prison population must be about 25% :lol:

I don't think inmates are allowed to vote, are they?

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The worst thing that could happen is a Tory government.

A small Labour majority is probably the best. Sensible policies but the more radical of them can easily be tempered by the Lib Dems and Tories in opposition.

For who? Not you per chance?

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The worst thing that could happen is a Tory government.

A small Labour majority is probably the best. Sensible policies but the more radical of them can easily be tempered by the Lib Dems and Tories in opposition.

<faints>

I think we have one of our 25% here then ...

:o

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<faints>

I think we have one of our 25% here then ...

:o

If I was a Labour supporter I would want a huge majority....

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I too am public sector and will never vote Labour, ever. Labour have damaged this country far too much for my £15K PA job to make up for it.

I work doing ICT, the private sector pays a lot more than the public sector in this field. (I stay public for my 42 week contract :lol: )

I know a few (two) people who will vote Labour. They spend all day bitching about Government policy, but they vote Labour anyway. When I ask them why, they say "because my dad's always voted Labour", or my favourite "I'm voting Labour because the Tories are going to scrap the NHS" :lol:

The real reason they vote Labour is because they want a cushy Local Council job, of course.

I'd say half of those who vote Labour have a VI in keeping Labour in power - Labour policies benefit them in some way (backhand Government contracts, cushy mid-higher management jobs, etc)

The other half are those people who don't read the news, know nothing about politics, and still believe that Labour are the party of the Working Class. ( :lol: )

As far as I'm concerned, the lesser the share of votes Labour get, the better. 0% being optimal.

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The worst thing that could happen is a Tory government.

A small Labour majority is probably the best. Sensible policies but the more radical of them can easily be tempered by the Lib Dems and Tories in opposition.

The worst thing that could happen is a Tory or a Labour or a LibDem government

Cos they are all the fekkn same.

$hit sandwich with mayo?

$hit sandwich with ketchup?

$hit sandwich with jam?

Still tastes like $hit to me ;)

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Exactly, stop voting for the bar-stewards, and start organising yourselves, you don't need them. Honestly, once you let go of the delusion that government is good and start running your own life you will quickly realise how "bonkers" you were for even turning up on polling day. Democracy means "self rule", not a ratified dictatorship.

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I think the polls might be overstating the Labour vote this time. Part of their methodology is to assume that a proportion of those who answer 'dont know' will vote for whoever they voted for in the last election and they weight their results accordingly. If the now ex Labour voters I know are a fair sample this wont happen in the next election. No government in my memory, and I can remember some stinkers, has done as much to alienate its traditional supporters as New Labour. This is further evidenced by the collapse in their membership from over 400,000 in 1997 to under 170,000 now. Thats the hard core, the people who help pay the bills and do the local campaigning, walking away. The ex Labour dont knows will be voting anything from BNP to Respect to Socialist Labour or more likely none of the above.

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Cameroon betrayed his unfitness to govern when he came up with his 'do nothing' masterplan on how to deal with the credit crunch.

Whatever you or I might think of David Cameron he is still going to win. Best start to acknowledge reality and think accordingly.

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It's naive to think that no one will vote Labour. It's also naive to dismiss Labour voters as VIs. Frankly, nearly everyone -- and Tories in particular -- vote from self-interest.

I voted Labour in 97 because I was so heartily sick of the Conservative era. I suspect that many of the people voting Tory in 2010 won't be old enough to remember 1979-97, just as the new generation of Labour voters were accused of not remembering the winter of discontent in 1978.

Last time around I voted LibDem as a protest against Iraq, and no idea what I'll do next time. Cameron is political candyfloss, but now that our household income has crept up to well above the national average, I'm wondering if my family will be better off under the Tories. Ultimately, I'm ashamed to say, that's probably what will determine my vote.

I don't share the contempt of many about Labour. It was Thatcher who kicked off the era of greed and debt with the Big Bang, and Labour, to their shame, found it easier to ride the wave than try capping the City's gluttony, which eventually spread throughout much of the population.

Something that I have never seen mentioned as a major factor in modern politics is the Internet. The web has had a major impact on how consumerism and personal attitudes to wealth have changed in the past 12 years. So many major stories of the past decade have been products of the digital age that simply wouldn't have been possible under the previous administration. One out of a thousand examples of this is the constnat loss of government data on CD and flash drives. Naturally senior politicians are accused of gross carelessness, when we all know that such disastrous data ****-ups were physically impossible during the 80s and early 90s. They will continue under the Tories, believe me. Nothing to do with their competence, just a reflection of changing technology.

If the Tories get in next time -- and it's likely they will -- they will find the landscape hugely different from their previous experience in government.

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Whatever you or I might think of David Cameron he is still going to win. Best start to acknowledge reality and think accordingly.

I'm not a Tory supporter, but I think you're right there about them wiining the next elections.

I just hope they don't bring back hunting with dogs and of course I hope they stop tinkering with house prices and let this bloody crash happen at last...

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The worst thing that could happen is a Tory government.

A small Labour majority is probably the best. Sensible policies but the more radical of them can easily be tempered by the Lib Dems and Tories in opposition.

A small Labour majority, however, small will see me packing my bags, dumping sterling and leaving the country for good.

What sensible policies? Greater spin, lack of social mobility, shafting the poor with an uber benefits culture, a farcical education system, the doubling of NI resulting in the creation of less jobs, the removal of our civil liberties one by one, a rasping on the door of communism... The only thing that's saved a sliver of democracy in this country is the internet.

Welcome to Labour's Britain. Absolutezero, have you been asleep?

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