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I really don't like this. Initially thought it was being run by a bunch of right wing lunatics, but it appears to be more mainstream than that.

Just checked out a few news message boards in the US - very anti Scottish and British (we're cancelling our holidays / business, etc.). One poor confused chap had even decided to put off his plans to holiday in Ireland.

"Unless the Scottish government rescinds this decision to release al-Megrahi, and if the British Parliament continues to avoid intervening in the matter, we urge all Americans to protest this action by boycotting the United Kingdom and Scotland in full. Don't travel to Scotland or do business there (or in the United Kingdom in general) and don't buy any British or Scottish products."

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I really don't like this. Thought it was being run by a bunch of right wing lunatics, but it appears to be more mainstream than that.

Just checked out a few news message boards in the US - very anti Scottish and British (we're cancelling our holidays / business, etc.). One poor confused chap had even decided to put off his plans to holiday in Ireland.

Meh. I live and work in Scotland and I don't give a toss about what yanks think.

Britain is going to become the fall guy for a lot of things in the near future.

Britain is going to become the black sheep of the western liberal democratic world too.

Get used to it.

End of empire.

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I agree with the yanks.

This was a cynical stitch-up by Mandleslime and his scottish cronies. These scum do not represent me and I what them hung out to dry.

I won't be touching whisky for a long time.

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I really don't like this. Thought it was being run by a bunch of right wing lunatics, but it appears to be more mainstream than that.

Just checked out a few news message boards in the US - very anti Scottish and British (we're cancelling our holidays / business, etc.). One poor confused chap had even decided to put off his plans to holiday in Ireland.

"Unless the Scottish government rescinds this decision to release al-Megrahi, and if the British Parliament continues to avoid intervening in the matter, we urge all Americans to protest this action by boycotting the United Kingdom and Scotland in full. Don't travel to Scotland or do business there (or in the United Kingdom in general) and don't buy any British or Scottish products."

I am pleased I am not a haggis maker.

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I wonder how many Americans realise the snot gobbling cyclops is Scottish.......

Hopefully TPTB in the US can boycott him and his crazy ideas....... :lol:

BF

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******** from a tiny group of tea-refusers.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12...sh-justice.html

As the political furore over the release of convicted Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset Al Megrahi engulfs three countries in bitter recriminations, The Mail on Sunday can now reveal the new and compelling evidence which he says would have proved his innocence.

In a submission to the Court of Appeal running to thousands of words, Megrahi’s lawyers list 20 grounds of appeal which include:

* Details of a catalogue of deliberately undisclosed evidence at the original trial.

* Allegations of ‘tampering’ with evidence.

* A summary of how American intelligence agencies were convinced that Iran, not Libya, was involved but that their reports were not open to the 2001 trial.

The closely guarded submission was obtained by Ian Ferguson, an investigative journalist and co-author of the book Cover-up of Convenience - The Hidden Scandal of Lockerbie.

But the evidence will never be tested in open court after the dying Libyan abandoned

it last week to spend his final days with his family.

Mr Ferguson, who has had 100 hours of unprecedented access to the 57-year-old former Libyan intelligence agent during his eight years in jail, claimed last night: ‘From the start there was a determination to try to prevent this appeal being heard.

It opened but never got off the ground, with stall after stall as each month Megrahi weakened with the cancer that was killing him.

‘There was rejoicing in the Crown Office in Edinburgh when he was released and the appeal abandoned.

'There may well be political manoeuvres behind his release but at the heart was a decision to save the face of the Scottish judiciary - in particular the Crown Prosecution, who would have been shown to have been involved in an abuse of process by non-disclosure of witness statements.’

It took the use of the U.S. Freedom of Information Act to unlock the full intelligence documents which are now highlighted in the appeal submission.

They show memos from the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) which suggested the downing of Pan Am Flight 103, which killed 270 people in 1988, was in response to the shooting down of an Iranian Airbus by the American warship USS Vincennes five months earlier.

Personally they should have quashed the conviction if this was the case. However that wasn't going to happen as it would open up a huge can of worms, far better for him to agree to withdraw the appeal then no one has to potentially go looking for the real bombers and risk upsetting Colonel Gaddafi plus embarrassing all the agencies involved in collecting the evidence.

Clearly there has been no justice the Americans need to be careful as this might backfire on them.

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Is that a eumphemism Pat?

You made it to Callie yet? Pm me if you have, I'd like it to work out.

It might be ;)

Not in Callie yet but working on it

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I agree with the yanks.

This was a cynical stitch-up by Mandleslime and his scottish cronies. These scum do not represent me and I what them hung out to dry.

I won't be touching whisky for a long time.

'A spokesman for the Scotch Whisky Association said it was "monitoring" the situation, but hoped that initial anger would pass'

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I agree with the yanks.

This was a cynical stitch-up by Mandleslime and his scottish cronies. These scum do not represent me and I what them hung out to dry.

I won't be touching whisky for a long time.

I've just been out and bought a bottle.

And who gives a toss about the Amoanicans? Most of out trade, thankfully, is with Europe. :)

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This is the point where I regret the three bottles of various single malts in my kitchen.

It means I really can't justify buying any more in the near future :( Just have to start taking a snifter when inna pub.

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'A spokesman for the Scotch Whisky Association said it was "monitoring" the situation, but hoped that initial anger would pass'

That's the spirit

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I reckon we may see rather more of this sort of thing, eventually it will be portrayed as " Smart Brits stitch up the septics." in the tabloids.

If the US's influence is in decline, I can quite believe our leaders will start looking to other power bases. We seem to be doing a fair bit with India and China and actually UK/Russian relations are not as bad as sometime reported - a lot of it is just posturing for internal consumption.

At the end of the day the UK's National Interest is the UK's National Interest and not the US's National Interest. Whilst they are mostly aligned, it would be foolish to assume this will always be the case or that it will be the same on every issue.

There are suggestions the Libyan situation is all down to gas supplies.

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http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/3...rand.5578581.jp

I was alerted to this whole issue by a rather posh English hotel I work for, which has just received some rather abusive e-mails from the US. This is definitely an issue for the whole of the UK - I guess where it all goes from here depends on the ability of US media people to keep their listeners / readers / viewers angry at Britain.

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I reckon we may see rather more of this sort of thing, eventually it will be portrayed as " Smart Brits stitch up the septics." in the tabloids.

If the US's influence is in decline, I can quite believe our leaders will start looking to other power bases. We seem to be doing a fair bit with India and China and actually UK/Russian relations are not as bad as sometime reported - a lot of it is just posturing for internal consumption.

At the end of the day the UK's National Interest is the UK's National Interest and not the US's National Interest. Whilst they are mostly aligned, it would be foolish to assume this will always be the case or that it will be the same on every issue.

There are suggestions the Libyan situation is all down to gas supplies.

I think - especially with the situation in the global economy - we may see the `special relationship` turn sour. Question is, who`s going to fire the next media salvo? Given that US commanders have criticised British troops in Afghanistan we may well see these kinds of sentiments as indicative of a gradual drift from the USA Given that the USA is looking kinda fu<ked up at the moment, how much longer are we and the US going to be `best buddies`? As countries like Russia supply our fuel and China our goods, how relevant are the close ties that bond the UK to the USA?

Either way this whole `fuel for freedom` business is looking murkier and murkier. <_<

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There's going to be a lot more of this kind of impotent rage and posturing from the Americans, as they find that greater and greater swathes of the globe refuse to bend to their imprecations.

It's going to be an increasingly pathetic and comical sight.

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I love this comment from an angry Scottish writer on Yahoo Buzz. Sums it all up for me really.

'I can't belive that not one of the jingoistic stereotypes that have posted in here can remember two years back when George Dubbya and Tony Blair were ready to Spring Megrahi for a deal only for the Scottish Gov to block it.

FFS People we are only talking 24mths ago...surely you can remember that far back. Or was that news not released to you by your masters?

Ah, what the hell. Why not just Nuke us! '

If the yanks want to let their rage out on Britain, let them. It's time for the UK to realign itself.

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I don't think too much will come of this unless it's proved deals were made.

The exception is the whiskey industry. They love the scotch in the US, but have

plenty of their own options. If these get a look in over the next month or so, it

could stick and a large market is lost.

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I really don't like this. Initially thought it was being run by a bunch of right wing lunatics, but it appears to be more mainstream than that.

Just checked out a few news message boards in the US - very anti Scottish and British (we're cancelling our holidays / business, etc.). One poor confused chap had even decided to put off his plans to holiday in Ireland.

"Unless the Scottish government rescinds this decision to release al-Megrahi, and if the British Parliament continues to avoid intervening in the matter, we urge all Americans to protest this action by boycotting the United Kingdom and Scotland in full. Don't travel to Scotland or do business there (or in the United Kingdom in general) and don't buy any British or Scottish products."

****** Em,

Pieces of shit the lot of em.

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Ive got devout republican friends in America and when i asked them, they had never even heard of 'freedom fries' or the boycott french stuff during Iraq. TBH its usually blown out of any proportion by some BBC hack scraping the barrel for news.

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And there was me thinking that part of democracy was a nation's right to self-determination and other independent states supporting that right. There's always been an anti-British current in American politics - it often reared its head in a somewhat confused support for the IRA, in recent weeks this vitriol has expressed itself in terms of an anti-NHS campaign (which went far beyond the rationale of support for private medicine and had its poster-boy in the turncoat Daniel Hannan), and is now finding expression in a hatred of the Scottish parliament for releasing Al Megrahi.

In truth this latest anti-British sentiment will act as a convenient smokescreen for those who did not want the background to al Megrahi's conviction to come out. There are many who have good reason to believe he had nothing to do with the explosion and it would internationally embarassing for things to come under the spotlight.

As others have commented whilst it's useful to maintain good relations with Washington, America's interests and ours are not identical and it's important to recognise this. A special relationship with America is self-delusion and whether Reagan and Thatcher or Blair and Bush Jr. where politicians have commingled our interests it rarely seems to have worked to Britain's best advantage.

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