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http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-ne...61634-24495836/

Tyneside’s dependency on the public sector for well paid jobs will mean it is among the worst hit when Government cuts take effect, it is argued.

Experts at the Centre for Cities think tank are warning that Newcastle has to stop depending on taxpayer-funded posts. They have called for more to be done to support local businesses rather than using funds to create more council jobs.

A damning report calls on Newcastle city leaders to “prepare for the consequences of significant cutbacks in the size of their public sector workforceâ€.

Up to 10% of Newcastle’s core public sector workers could lose their jobs.

With a third of Tyneside working for councils, schools, hospitals or at Government offices such as Inland Revenue in Longbenton, the knock-on effect of any Government-ordered job losses could be severe.

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We are going back to pre New labour times and Cameron will take over where Thatcher left off.

Cameron will go for the public sector workers the same way Thatcher went after the miners.

He will have no choice.

Nor would Stalin if he were in the same position, or Engels, or Arthur Scargill. It won't stop you calling him Tory scum.

Oh well.

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We are going back to pre New labour times and Cameron will take over where Thatcher left off.

Cameron will go for the public sector workers the same way Thatcher went after the miners.

I do hope so as the whole public service system is impossibly bloated and we simply cannot afford it..... all those who lose their jobs should in all honesty not had public sector jobs in the first place.. labour created a huge number of positions we could quite frankly do without, adding for instance 35,000 civil service admin posts in 2007 alone.

Obviously it'll be tough for those who lose their jobs but hopefully the next govt will have the guts to cut out the wastage and fat created by this wastefull and ruinous labour govt.

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I do hope so as the whole public service system is impossibly bloated and we simply cannot afford it..... all those who lose their jobs should in all honesty not had public sector jobs in the first place.. labour created a huge number of positions we could quite frankly do without, adding for instance 35,000 civil service admin posts in 2007 alone.

Obviously it'll be tough for those who lose their jobs but hopefully the next govt will have the guts to cut out the wastage and fat created by this wastefull and ruinous labour govt.

I think those that have worked in the public sector all their lives are going to have a shock if they get made redundant and then work for a private company. I did some work for HMRC way back and their staff would ALWAYS leave at 4pm, no matter what state the work was in. Also, they had so many "sick" days it was unbelievable. They were also pretty thick too, and couldn't really comprehend anything abstract or that didn't fit into how they imagined things worked.

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Ah the daily public sector bashing thread. It just wouldn't be HPC without it. :rolleyes:

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The North East is minor next to Call Me Dave's real problem:

WOMEN.

>70% of the public sector.

>60% of university applicants.

Biggest "client group" in government programmes, excluding the prison service.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

General strike 2011. Sex strike 2012 onwards.

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We are going back to pre New labour times and Cameron will take over where Thatcher left off.

Cameron will go for the public sector workers the same way Thatcher went after the miners.

Fudgepacker my old mucca, the bit you never seem to get is this is a RESULT of labour policies not Tory policies. It doesn't matter who wins the next general election significant cutbacks in public spending will have to be done.

I hope the Tories lose the next election leaving Brown with his own mess to clear up.

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We are going back to pre New labour times and Cameron will take over where Thatcher left off.

Cameron will go for the public sector workers the same way Thatcher went after the miners.

As yourself this simple question.

You ordered sky but you never watch it. You phone up to cancel but they refuse and get angry, infact they remove you service but expect payment too.

How would you feel?

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The North East is minor next to Call Me Dave's real problem:

WOMEN.

>70% of the public sector.

>60% of university applicants.

Biggest "client group" in government programmes, excluding the prison service.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

General strike 2011. Sex strike 2012 onwards.

Not that I'm doubting those figures, but can you linky linky?

What would be cheaper in the long run? Keeping the public sector workers on or scrapping 80% of them, taking the country back wards by half a century?!? And don't think that this time the suffering will be confined to the north.

The massive public sector culling would only work if it went hand in hand with massive welfare abandonment. This would cause state failure on a massive scale and simply not an option.

Apart from some minor token state trimming, we're stuck with them.

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Fudgepacker my old mucca, the bit you never seem to get is this is a RESULT of labour policies not Tory policies. It doesn't matter who wins the next general election significant cutbacks in public spending will have to be done.

I hope the Tories lose the next election leaving Brown with his own mess to clear up.

Exactly, which is why whatever monkey in a suit Labour put up in my area they will get my vote.

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Fudgepacker my old mucca, the bit you never seem to get is this is a RESULT of labour policies not Tory policies. It doesn't matter who wins the next general election significant cutbacks in public spending will have to be done.

I hope the Tories lose the next election leaving Brown with his own mess to clear up.

Seems to be a bit of a recurring pattern: the Labour party get a run in office and manage to make an almightly f***ing mess of everything; then the Conservatives get in and have to sort it out again and everyone hates them for it.

So who's fault is it really; the Tories for sorting it out or the socialists for f***ing it up in the first place?

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Fudgepacker my old mucca, the bit you never seem to get is this is a RESULT of labour policies not Tory policies. It doesn't matter who wins the next general election significant cutbacks in public spending will have to be done.

I hope the Tories lose the next election leaving Brown with his own mess to clear up.

To be more accurate it is the fault of the Labour party adopting Tory policies.

Under an old Labour government the rich would have been taxed till the pips squeaked to pay for uneconomical northern miners and engineers.

At least we would have had an industry with a chance when we devalued.

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I hope the Tories lose the next election leaving Brown with his own mess to clear up.

Agreed, except we'd be begging from the IMF within 6 months and the Conservatives would be left an even bigger mess.

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Fudgepacker my old mucca, the bit you never seem to get is this is a RESULT of labour policies not Tory policies. It doesn't matter who wins the next general election significant cutbacks in public spending will have to be done.

I hope the Tories lose the next election leaving Brown with his own mess to clear up.

I was thinking it'd be good if they had to stick around and sort the mess out, but I think they could make it

even worse. They'll tax high end and companies too much and they'll all leave.

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Politics is a popularity contest, yet what this country needs is a party-pooper.

Someone to tell everyone, "Thats enough, time to stop!"

No solution to the countrys problems will be popular. Its gone way beyond that.

My guess is that the vast majority of the populace are too ignorant to grasp this point.

Edited by waynezilla

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we are assuming that any government has any real control here.

when the money runs out, its call in the receivers..whomever you are...and that means the spending stops.

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Agreed, except we'd be begging from the IMF within 6 months and the Conservatives would be left an even bigger mess.

It really scares me that the Tories are going to be left with a mess

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It really scares me that the Tories are going to be left with a mess

I wonder if they'll be playing the same blame game Labour have partaken in for the last 12 years!?

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Remind me again what caused this unholy mess in the first place? The banks, yes? Which are in the private sector.

With the connivance of the Labour Party, of course.

So the Conservatives would have kept the banks in check if they'd been in power, would they?

And then there's the gazillions of public money that has been pumped into the financial sector, a good deal of which is being creamed off by the higher echelons because, presumably, they believe they're worth it.

Keep the rich rich and grind the little people down. Same old same old.

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Not that I'm doubting those figures, but can you linky linky?

What would be cheaper in the long run? Keeping the public sector workers on or scrapping 80% of them, taking the country back wards by half a century?!? And don't think that this time the suffering will be confined to the north.

The massive public sector culling would only work if it went hand in hand with massive welfare abandonment. This would cause state failure on a massive scale and simply not an option.

Apart from some minor token state trimming, we're stuck with them.

Both a few years old, I have seen better confirmation of what I'm saying but I can't find it off hand; the trends identified there have persisted up to the levels I described.

http://www.esrc.ac.uk/ESRCInfoCentre/Image..._tcm6-27931.jpg

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/jan/27/h...cation.students

As to use of government programmes; its a mortal lock given maternity + single motherdom + more at university + living longer.

In general women favour "the state" and public spending although that is obviously a big generalisation.

[Edit to remove prattle; read Lakoff's "Moral Politics" for more on this theme].

Edited by Cogs

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New Labour have been following Thatcherite neo liberal polices they are a kind of Tory Lite.

The beginnigs of the problems we have now can be traced back to Thatcher and the City Big Bang

deregulation. In fact I think it is a distraction to blame individual personalities whether it be Thatcher, Scargill, Blair,

Brown or Cameron. They are just people. Its the ideologies and beliefs that are important.

Neo liberalism, Socialism, Monetorism etc

Also looking back by employing all those people in the public sector it disguised the fact that 100,000's of jobs

were being offshored. Just as debt and MEW disguised the fact that while productivity was rising, wages were stagnating.

Hiding the true consequences of globalisation.

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New Labour have been following Thatcherite neo liberal polices they are a kind of Tory Lite.

The beginnigs of the problems we have now can be traced back to Thatcher and the City Big Bang

deregulation. In fact I think it is a distraction to blame individual personalities whether it be Thatcher, Scargill, Blair,

Brown or Cameron. They are just people. Its the ideologies and beliefs that are important.

Neo liberalism, Socialism, Monetorism etc

More to the point Zanu Lab have given the impression of following "Tory Lite" policies whilst in reality following their trades union paymasters socialist agenda.

I've said it before but the Labour party's true purpose nowadays is to improve the pay and conditions of public sector workers (at the expense of the private sector). Thjis is why you have huge rises in the numbers of public sector employees and the amounts they are paid; this is why they have spent 12 years refusing to address the unaffordable public sector pensions bill.

The problems we have today do not date back to Thatcher; they date back to Gormless Brown putting in place a failed regulatory system and then sitting back and congratulating himself as the country went through the largest and most obvious asset price boom we’ve ever seen, at the same time as destroying the public finances in a way that can normally only be achieved by a world war!

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