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This is communism by the back door,and while I can't stand Cameron and won't vote for him,we need to see the back of this shower.

I will most certainly not be voting Conservative either, and the Lib Dems are just another strand of the Labour virus. Its going to be an interesting election.

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About time they started counting the employed and the not the unemployed.

I always wonder why they count the passengers on flights that are almost full, rather than count the empty seats and subtract this from the total number of seats.

They use hand held clickers, so the possibility of human error must be far greater using the conventional method.

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I always wonder why they count the passengers on flights that are almost full, rather than count the empty seats and subtract this from the total number of seats.

They use hand held clickers, so the possibility of human error must be far greater using the conventional method.

Counting the employed would certainly be quicker.

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New Fascist will point to the overall people in jobs figure being higher so they claim more jobs have been "created."

However these types of vacancies have largely been filled by immigration, as locals are discriminated against, or can't work for lower wages, or less secure employment due to fixed rent or mortgage committments. Neither does the number of people in employment take into account overall job quality.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12...ch-reveals.html

'Six million are out of work and claiming benefits, according to research which lays bare the true scale of joblessness under Labour.

About one in six of the 37-million-strong working age population is out of work, according to the Policy Exchange think-tank.

Ahem, The total number of employees in Great Britain in 1974 has increased from 22.3 million in 1974 to 26.4million in 2007/08 (and has fallen since - and many of these are part time). PS. These are government stats.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12...ch-reveals.html

'Six million are out of work and claiming benefits, according to research which lays bare the true scale of joblessness under Labour.

About one in six of the 37-million-strong working age population is out of work, according to the Policy Exchange think-tank.

Ahem, The total number of employees in Great Britain in 1974 has increased from 22.3 million in 1974 to 26.4million in 2007/08 (and has fallen since - and many of these are part time). PS. These are government stats.

Part-time workers now constitute around a third (31.9%) of the workforce, compared to a sixth in the mid-1970s; almost half of all employees (48.0%) are now women (compared to less than two-fifths).

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Ahem, The total number of employees in Great Britain in 1974 has increased from 22.3 million in 1974 to 26.4million in 2007/08 (and has fallen since - and many of these are part time). PS. These are government stats.

Part-time workers now constitute around a third (31.9%) of the workforce, compared to a sixth in the mid-1970s; almost half of all employees (48.0%) are now women (compared to less than two-fifths).

So that's around 17-18 million in full time work out of a working age population of 37 million. What a successful economy :lol::lol::lol:

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What, 3 dead people or 3 years?

bodies..

I was joking, but I assume there's a cut off point if your husbands drop dead frequently for the police too.

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'Six million are out of work and claiming benefits, according to research which lays bare the true scale of joblessness under Labour.

About one in six of the 37-million-strong working age population is out of work, according to the Policy Exchange think-tank.

This includes 1.6million on Jobseeker's Allowance and 2.6million on incapacity benefit and its replacement Employment and Support Allowance - more than a million of whom the Government believes are perfectly capable of working.

There are also 736,000 on lone parent payments, 400,000 carers, 363,000 on disabled benefit, 182,000 on other income-related benefits and 95,000 who live on bereavement benefits.

The figures contain no overlap because each claimant is categorised depending on which of their handouts is the largest.

Under Margaret Thatcher's government the jobless total never got above 4.9million, despite headline unemployment rates of more than three million. Critics accused Labour of concealing the true scale of unemployment by moving people on to other benefits.

In 1997, when Labour came to power, £93billion was spent on social security benefits, but by next year it will be £ 193billion, more than doubling in 13 years. '

What amazes me is that anyone can be surprised by this.The collusion to create delusion is a disgrace.When they total up-in an honest fashion-the amount of people on the govt payroll,will we get a realistic picture of the problems ahead of us.

This is communism by the back door,and while I can't stand Cameron and won't vote for him,we need to see the back of this shower.

Look at that welfare bill and tell me the price of a helicopter.

Spot on, spin and mis-information is the biggest evil of government.

But then has it been going for years anyway? Has media helped this or uncovered this more? Tricky.

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Part-time workers now constitute around a third (31.9%) of the workforce

Gruffydd, do you mean a third of the workforce i.e a third of 37million, or a third of the employed population? I assume it's the latter, if not we really are up s**t creek.

Going by what you say, there were less full-time posts in 2007/8 (17.98 million) than there were in 1974 (18.58 million). 2007/8 is depicted to be the peak of the economic miracle and 1974 is depicted to be when Britain was deep in cr*p economically.

I'm glad these figures are getting some publicity at last. Shame it couldn't have been done more under the "boom years" to expose the lies about the credit bubble. I guess there were too many vested interests to do that.

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Part-time workers now constitute around a third (31.9%) of the workforce

Gruffydd, do you mean a third of the workforce i.e a third of 37million, or a third of the employed population? I assume it's the latter, if not we really are up s**t creek.

Going by what you say, there were less full-time posts in 2007/8 (17.98 million) than there were in 1974 (18.58 million). 2007/8 is depicted to be the peak of the economic miracle and 1974 is depicted to be when Britain was deep in cr*p economically.

I'm glad these figures are getting some publicity at last. Shame it couldn't have been done more under the "boom years" to expose the lies about the credit bubble. I guess there were too many vested interests to do that.

Yes.

People are finally cottoning on to the fact that there's three times as many people, chasing half as many full time jobs. FTB bears will no longer have to worry about competing against the dreaded dual income mortgage holders.

We haven't touched on the main demographics of the unemployed either (the young and over 55s). It's all well and good being told to expect to wait until your 40s for your first mortgage, yet 10 years in, chances are you'll be on the scrap heap with the over 33%.

How did we let it get to this?!?!

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Are tax credits included in the 193bn?

No, they are accounted for under HM Revenue and Customs, not the DWP.

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