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Thamesmead: The Fraud Capital Of Britain.

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Radio Times:

'Built in the 1960's as a vibrant community in South East London, Thamesmead has become known a hub of fraud, dubbed 'Little Lagos' because of its association with West African gangs. Phil Kemp investigates how this reputation was made.'

Repeated next Sunday at 5pm

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"And here we have a group of young men, relaxing after a hard day of ebay scams, singing a noisy little ditty whose chief subject appears to be ladies, shiny things and territory."

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Thamesmead basically epitomises NuLabour's Britain, it's all their failures made concrete, how a country rots when a bunch of soulless socialists and greedy corporate interests take over. Thamesmead has it all, the modern day version of a socially engineered high density sink estate laced with ponzi inspired greed, speculation, reckless lending, BTL chancers, wholesale fraud from top to bottom by a parasitic elite and underclass, then a touch of spice with uncontrolled immigration bringing the wrong kind of 'enrichment' and 'innovation' to the area, along with the requisite vampire coterie of police, CCTV, social workers, outreach officers and community initiatives who make a job for themselves trying to put right the mess the state created for itself, the area's Hilton hotel in the form of HMP Belmarsh is also conveniently close, then finally the bill for this sh1t storm is then landed with the tax payer in the form of a huge national debt landed on the next generation.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/1235fb4e-8f5f-11...,print=yes.html

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...t&p=1404491

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...howtopic=107308

Most of this endemic fraud and losses now sit on B&B's mortgage book, along with the rest of the state owned banks and the Asset Protection Scheme, so you're now paying for this cruel joke. I just feel sorry for the people who live there, maybe our social engineers and the rest of the cabal of utopian dreamers should be forced to live there :-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/207...rom-safety.html

Maybe one day the MoD will take pity on the place and turn it back into an artillery range. It's only a matter of time before the whole of the UK is one giant Thamesmead.

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Thamesmead basically epitomises NuLabour's Britain, it's all their failures made concrete, how a country rots when a bunch of soulless socialists and greedy corporate interests take over. Thamesmead has it all, the modern day version of a socially engineered high density sink estate laced with ponzi inspired greed, speculation, reckless lending, BTL chancers, wholesale fraud from top to bottom by a parasitic elite and underclass, then a touch of spice with uncontrolled immigration bringing the wrong kind of 'enrichment' and 'innovation' to the area, along with the requisite vampire coterie of police, CCTV, social workers, outreach officers and community initiatives who make a job for themselves trying to put right the mess the state created for itself, the area's Hilton hotel in the form of HMP Belmarsh is also conveniently close, then finally the bill for this sh1t storm is then landed with the tax payer in the form of a huge national debt landed on the next generation.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/1235fb4e-8f5f-11...,print=yes.html

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...t&p=1404491

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...howtopic=107308

Most of this endemic fraud and losses now sit on B&B's mortgage book, along with the rest of the state owned banks and the Asset Protection Scheme, so you're now paying for this cruel joke. I just feel sorry for the people who live there, maybe our social engineers and the rest of the cabal of utopian dreamers should be forced to live there :-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/207...rom-safety.html

Maybe one day the MoD will take pity on the place and turn it back into an artillery range. It's only a matter of time before the whole of the UK is one giant Thamesmead.

I hereby award this post the 2009 HPC longest sentence without a full stop prize.

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I hereby award this post the 2009 HPC longest sentence without a full stop prize.

It's a paragraph that Barratts conveniently left out of their sales brochure, you know the one's with the pictures of young couples smiling adoringly with (empty) wine glasses, with the red glow of their burning car in the distance and the thumping sound of the local pirate hipperty hop station echoing through their paper thin walls, along with the highly visible police incident board in the car park below that somebody forgot to photoshop out. The back page usually features a young women laughing whilst listening to her iPod, trying to block out the day they agreed to their 25 year bondage, not to mention the police sirens... the endless police sirens that only subside at night time when the law is too scared to patrol the area.

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I hereby award this post the 2009 HPC longest sentence without a full stop prize.

The Punctuation Police are back!

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Thamesmead has it all, the modern day version of a socially engineered high density sink estate laced with ponzi inspired greed, speculation, reckless lending, BTL chancers, wholesale fraud from top to bottom by a parasitic elite and underclass, then a touch of spice with uncontrolled immigration bringing the wrong kind of 'enrichment' and 'innovation' to the area, along with the requisite vampire coterie of police, CCTV, social workers, outreach officers and community initiatives who make a job for themselves trying to put right the mess the state created for itself, the area's Hilton hotel in the form of HMP Belmarsh is also conveniently close, then finally the bill for this sh1t storm is then landed with the tax payer in the form of a huge national debt landed on the next generation.

I hereby award this post the 2009 HPC longest sentence without a full stop prize.

Never mind the length, feel the quality.*

* This is not one of my chat-up lines, I hasten to add.

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It ends with :-

"I don't see why you shouldn't be positive about Thamesmead."

How predictable, like Thamesmead itself, some things never change, it seems the Beeb will always be full of socialist dreamers that cannot see the unbearable reality before their eyes.

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It's a paragraph that Barratts conveniently left out of their sales brochure, you know the one's with the pictures of young couples smiling adoringly with (empty) wine glasses, with the red glow of their burning car in the distance and the thumping sound of the local pirate hipperty hop station echoing through their paper thin walls, along with the highly visible police incident board in the car park below that somebody forgot to photoshop out. The back page usually features a young women laughing whilst listening to her iPod, trying to block out the day they agreed to their 25 year bondage, not to mention the police sirens... the endless police sirens that only subside at night time when the law is too scared to patrol the area.

LOL - your posts offer accurate insights indeed - my wife's mum, sister, brother and their families all reside in Thamesmead and it is a godawful place full* of sad, surly, obese people of all races (except the minority of thin, sad, surly people who invariably have some sort of smoking/drinking related disease which keeps them thin, not good health).

*this post carries a Government Gross Generalisation Warning!

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It ends with :-

"I don't see why you shouldn't be positive about Thamesmead."

How predictable, like Thamesmead itself, some things never change, it seems the Beeb will always be full of socialist dreamers that cannot see the unbearable reality before their eyes.

I can't find an author's name on the BBC Newsweek magazine piece. At least one TV journalist bought in Thamesmead.

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I can't find an author's name on the BBC Newsweek piece. At least on TV journalist bought in Thamesmead.

That'll be Nana Akua, otherwise known as the Black Hyacinth Bucket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL97yAE7PQw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O42nqzUL13k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vh7CXw1hsM

Poor Nana paid £305k for a flat later valued at £200k, and that programme is from February 2008!

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According to that article it seems all of the problems in the area are that b@stard beardie movie making genius Stanley Kubrick's fault. How very very dare he.

"If you give something a bad name then it will live up to that name," he says. "So Thamesmead was known as a troublesome area particularly with gangs."

The concrete high-rises that surround the project were the setting for Stanley Kubrick's violent film, Clockwork Orange. Its bleak, futuristic depiction of violent youth has stained the town's reputation ever since

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... the endless police sirens that only subside at night time when the law is too scared to patrol the area.

Then the choppers start...

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People need to learn to appreciate the benefits of diversity.

Many different types of criminals from all over the world as your neighbours!

Although mainly from Nigeria.

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According to that article it seems all of the problems in the area are that b@stard beardie movie making genius Stanley Kubrick's fault. How very very dare he.

Yeah, they should have banned that film or something, then nobody would have heard about it or be interested in it. <_<

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Yeah, they should have banned that film or something, then nobody would have heard about it or be interested in it. <_<

Too right. Like everyone forgot Cornwall existed after they banned that Straw Dogs.

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'The Mead' is actually quite quiet, certainly the quietest bit of London I've lived in.

The local golf course used to make me laugh - you'd get the local scum smoking big joints of skunk on the driving range next to families and all sorts.

I had a McDonalds, a KFC, a Morrisons, a Chavgos, and a Wilkinson's there. What more could a northern man need?

TFH

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It's a paragraph that Barratts conveniently left out of their sales brochure, you know the one's with the pictures of young couples smiling adoringly with (empty) wine glasses, with the red glow of their burning car in the distance and the thumping sound of the local pirate hipperty hop station echoing through their paper thin walls, along with the highly visible police incident board in the car park below that somebody forgot to photoshop out. The back page usually features a young women laughing whilst listening to her iPod, trying to block out the day they agreed to their 25 year bondage, not to mention the police sirens... the endless police sirens that only subside at night time when the law is too scared to patrol the area.

yes, one way to tell how wonderfully culturally enriched an area has become is by the incident boards...

Brixton Shootings Boards

I read recently that the Met were quietly phasing them out because they create a negative impression of an area in the public mind :o

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If you live there then you must be a chav yourself. No normal person would.

Glad you posted, as I found your blog again!

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If you live there then you must be a chav yourself. No normal person would.

Hehe, no I don't. I lived there for a year when I moved out of a student house and refused to get a flat. It had to be a house of some description and the one-bedders of the Mead were the only option.

There's a lot of houses which have owners in them (or mortgagees) who aren't on the fiddle, but there's probably 5 scum or scammers to each of those.

Where's the poster who was the chief cheerleader for Thamesmead?

Come on, ramp it up now!

TFH

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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/1235fb4e-8f5f-11...,print=yes.html

Thanks for posting that link. A little old (Oct 2008) but very informative about the problems with the rush to build.

Heres a couple of excerpts :-

"Developers responded by churning out ever more almost identical two-bedroom boxes. The proportion of flats (mainly two-bedroom) soared from 23 per cent of all housing starts in 2000 to nearly 50 per cent in 2006, according to the National House-Building Council (NHBC), the housebuilders’ trade association."

"In 2006, London Development Research, a property research group, observed that in the London market for new-build flats, buy-to-letters accounted for 50 per cent of demand, and flippers accounted for another 17 per cent. This meant that more than two-thirds of the demand for new flats was coming from speculative buyers."

67% of new build flats were bought by speculators (I doubt professional landlords who knew what they were doing would of touched these places - certainly not in these areas)

"But housing associations are unlikely to take over many developments such as the Pinnacles in any significant way. Michael Cleaver, head of home ownership at Gallions, is cautious about buying large numbers of flats. He says the association has only bought defensively, to try to protect the value of its existing stake in the projects. Alastair Stewart is more damning about new-build developments in general. “Housing associations don’t actually want much of this stuff because it is substandard in terms of build-quality and size,†he says. “The flats are too small, they were badly thrown together and they are too far from proper transport hubs. These are, I am sorry to say, the ghettos of the future.â€"

Once again - thanks - an interesting read.

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yes, one way to tell how wonderfully culturally enriched an area has become is by the incident boards...

Brixton Shootings Boards

I read recently that the Met were quietly phasing them out because they create a negative impression of an area in the public mind :o

I suppose the fact the MET see's the need to padlock and chain these boards to lamp-posts is entirely lost on them.

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