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I feel like shooting anyone who utters the words 'Green Shoots'

There'll be some shooting alright as this ubermess pans out.

The bankers, the media and the lying, venal scum that the brainless morons elect to rule us are trying desperately to 'big up' an 'upturn' out of their artificailly created 'downturn' (God how I hate that word! Who are they kidding eh?), all caused by the biggest credit bubble in human history. Either they are absolutely terrified or the collpase is being engineered for alterior motives. Global government and a global financial system will require a more level playing field to be functional.......so the bankers and the political elite are asset stripping the developed nations, particularly those that might have been more likely to defend our ancient liberties and freedoms (Yeah, like the UK and the USA for example).

So today it seems we are already living in The Matrix, a weird dystopian world of lying politicians, corrupt greedy SOaB bankers and a media system that delivers nothing but fairy tales. The BBC seems more like Pravda than a news channel. Question Time has become some kind of black satire on the vacuuousness of our elected representatives. All humour on TV is loaded with socialism. Nobody debates real issues. Everything in life seems like a giant lie. Politicians and the media entreat the economic slaves to go go further into debt or as George Carlin put it, 'Go to the mall with a wallet full of plastic and buy shit you don't need with money you don't have.' The world has descended into utter decadance, a collective insanity.

And most incredible of all, these sociopaths, these utter scabs on the face of humanity have contrived an economy where vitrtually our entire monetary system is interest bearing debt. THERE IS NO MONEY. (apart from the miniscule amount of cash in circulation) And there is not much in the way of genuine wealth creation either. It's all been offshored by these maniacs and millions exist thanks to the grace and favour of the state (courtesy of a dwindling number of people who still crawl out of their pit every morning and do something productive). Not much THINKING going on is there? Maybe just a little. What are Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears and Amy Winehouse doing to make complate assholes of themselves?

Hmmm IMPORTANT STUFF!

Meanwhile, the bovine masses.....shop. (if they still have a credit rating) and entertain themselves with the latest celebrity tittle tattle, Murdoch media and any other kind of mind numbing trash they can fill their empty brains with, blissfully unaware that our society is poised on the threshold of utter collpase.

What a time to live in.

I suppose we deserve our fate in a way. I look at what has happened to society and the once great nation I grew up in and think it might just be a good thing in the longer run that we learn TO THINK AGAIN. Now, wouldn't that be something to celebrate!

(Psychotic rant over - I'm off to bed)

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Excellent rant. Mirrors the utter contempt I feel towards the manufactured "news" with its laughable stories of recovereh and green shoots.

The answer apparently, is to solve the problem by creating ever more debt whilst conveniently ignoring manufacturing output, unemployment and export of services.

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Our country is fubar

Media is corrupt, politicians corrupt, lies and spin hit citizens from every angle.

I can't remember the last time I heard a pure, uncoloured fact from the mainstream media that I felt I could trust.

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Cry more, moron,

The bankers would love the world to stay ******ed for longer, because the more the world is fubared the more bid-offer we can charge.

Therefore your whole premise collapses.

Have fun trying on the tin-foil hats for the whole family though.

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Our country is fubar

Media is corrupt, politicians corrupt, lies and spin hit citizens from every angle.

I can't remember the last time I heard a pure, uncoloured fact from the mainstream media that I felt I could trust.

How it feels

Wish it was better quality........but you get the drift...........

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Cry more, moron,

The bankers would love the world to stay ******ed for longer, because the more the world is fubared the more bid-offer we can charge.

Therefore your whole premise collapses.

Have fun trying on the tin-foil hats for the whole family though.

Die horribly

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Cry more, moron,

The bankers would love the world to stay ******ed for longer, because the more the world is fubared the more bid-offer we can charge.

Therefore your whole premise collapses.

Have fun trying on the tin-foil hats for the whole family though.

First one to cry moron

On an internet forum

Is a ... ?

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Ignore the banker.

Just look at the growing revolt in the US at the town hall meetings and the recent public survey on Goldman Sachs. The people are turning against the elected officials and the bankers like never before. This looks like the "green shoots" of social unrest IMO.

It could get very nasty before this is all over and I would not like to be a banker if things progress.

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Cry more, moron,

The bankers would love the world to stay ******ed for longer, because the more the world is fubared the more bid-offer we can charge.

Therefore your whole premise collapses.

Have fun trying on the tin-foil hats for the whole family though.

Sh1tHouse, here's a tin foil hat I found just for you. Masks and chair kindly also provided:

deathrowmarv.jpg

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It could get very nasty before this is all over and I would not like to be a banker as things progress.

Hmmmm. Seems like you guys are reading the wrong news.

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( :unsure: )

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Hmmmm. Seems like you guys are reading the wrong news.

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( :unsure: )

It's a fekkn fantasy. It wont last because it isn't real. They'll try everytrick in the book to deceive and string things out.

At some point......some time in the future....the penny will drop.

It always does....eventually

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Cry more, moron,

The bankers would love the world to stay ******ed for longer, because the more the world is fubared the more bid-offer we can charge.

Therefore your whole premise collapses.

Have fun trying on the tin-foil hats for the whole family though.

The bankers' days are numbered. I will save my tinfoil so I can wrap it around your fat piggy belly to prevent over-cooking when you roast in hell. Barbecued pork will be popular come judgement day.

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Cry more, moron,

The bankers would love the world to stay ******ed for longer, because the more the world is fubared the more bid-offer we can charge.

Therefore your whole premise collapses.

Have fun trying on the tin-foil hats for the whole family though.

Sad, pissed and trolling........

Lonely night huh?

How many threads are you planning to make yourself look like a complete twit on tonight???

My advice... drink a pint of water, go to bed and go buy a house tomorrow.

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Well it could be a bad case of confirmation bias on my part - but what I see is:

Bank of England by extending QE saying it hasn't worked yet, lets pump more in (why the feck did the markets think that was a good thing?) and they're still really really worried

RICS sounding a note of caution (and in effect saying beware of the bull trap) as house prices will not recover for at least 18 months

Hester at RBS sounding another huge note of caution and that 2011 is the earliest date for things picking up

Reading between the lines - it's not hard to see that even the VI's are hedging - and saying that it's not over yet, not by a long way and it's going to get worse before it gets better.

The Big Crash is still on and they know it - mid September is my bet. It feels like something is in the air...it just feels like it - too many people sounding notes of caution and sounding wary ...and the autumn is when it is most likely to happen.

Bet ya.

Ellie

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Well it could be a bad case of confirmation bias on my part - but what I see is:

Bank of England by extending QE saying it hasn't worked yet, lets pump more in (why the feck did the markets think that was a good thing?) and they're still really really worried

RICS sounding a note of caution (and in effect saying beware of the bull trap) as house prices will not recover for at least 18 months

Hester at RBS sounding another huge note of caution and that 2011 is the earliest date for things picking up

Reading between the lines - it's not hard to see that even the VI's are hedging - and saying that it's not over yet, not by a long way and it's going to get worse before it gets better.

The Big Crash is still on and they know it - mid September is my bet. It feels like something is in the air...it just feels like it - too many people sounding notes of caution and sounding wary ...and the autumn is when it is most likely to happen.

Bet ya.

Ellie

That sounds about right.

I'm getting that sinking feeling in regards to Sept/Oct.

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No need to read the thread... With you all the way MOP!

In the words of Bush "This suckers going DOWN".

Buy GOLD/SILVER or you are flucked!

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The Big Crash is still on and they know it - mid September is my bet. It feels like something is in the air...it just feels like it - too many people sounding notes of caution and sounding wary ...and the autumn is when it is most likely to happen.

Bet ya.

Ellie

I'm clearly more optimistic: Early November.

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The other day some bull on here said in reference to QE and bail-outs something like "In this game, the government has changed the rules and moved the goalposts".

What should have happened to our economy just hasn't. I have a horrible sinking feeling that Zanu L will do absolutely anything it takes to maintain this 'falsely created economy'. They have weighed up the outcomes of intervention v's non intervention and figured that it is our future-selves and family that should suffer and pay, not our present-selves. The ones that got us into this mess in the first place.

UKdebtslave - Your rant echos true for me also. Thank goodness for HPC. A small haven of sanity.....well most of the time.

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Great rant! I feel and hear every word. The system is vile and we need to change it.

For those ranting about QE, I will repeat what I have said before again. Roll out the QE and tighten up the private bank reserve ratios proportionately until every penny of this vile, interest bearing, debt money is extinguished.

The inflation was created when the gilts were sold. The deflation only happens when they are repaid. Do you think the government debt will ever be repaid? Do you understand why there has been inflation? Replace the credit with money, but restrict the banks ability to multiply it up and we can again have debt free money, which we can control.

Know your enemy - it is the private banks, not QE.

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What should have happened to our economy just hasn't. I have a horrible sinking feeling that Zanu L will do absolutely anything it takes to maintain this 'falsely created economy'. They have weighed up the outcomes of intervention v's non intervention and figured that it is our future-selves and family that should suffer and pay, not our present-selves. The ones that got us into this mess in the first place.

I'm tending more to agree with this kind of scenario. I think QE will become a semi-permanent arrangement to soften (and lengthen) the deflation period - just as happened in Japan.

It's the old frog-boiling analogy writ large - we'll be impoverished slowly and one-by-one to minimise the social disruption.

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Know your enemy - it is the private banks, not QE.

you mean zombie banks in hock with the taxpayer - get rid of these and we free the economy...

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I'm tending more to agree with this kind of scenario. I think QE will become a semi-permanent arrangement to soften (and lengthen) the deflation period - just as happened in Japan.

It's the old frog-boiling analogy writ large - we'll be impoverished slowly and one-by-one to minimise the social disruption.

In which gold and silver are your answer. They'll will act as a store of value as your currency is slowly devalued.

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you mean zombie banks in hock with the taxpayer - get rid of these and we free the economy...

Yup, let the zombie banks die and make the ones which remain move towards full reserve banking.

The only way you can do this is by replacing the credit with money (via QE) or we end up with suffocating deflation.

P.S. This doesn't mean writing off debt - just ultimately moving the debt liability to the government, who can provide the loans at a much lower rate (essentially, interest free).

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