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Looks Like Somebody Bought A Dud ... Now Up For Auction

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Can you imagine living next door!!!!

Next door bloke :- "Hey Doreen, this house on rightmove looks like next door!"

Doreen :- "Ooh! I wonder how much our house is worth. Let's have a look"

Next door bloke :- "Pah! only £175,000 I wouldn't fart for less than £250,000"

Doreen :- "Why is that then, what's wrong with it??"

Next door bloke :- "Well it looks like they have pulled down all the load bearing walls and it's about to collapse."

Doreen :- "Oh I feel faint!"

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From the agent's website:

"being sold as it stands as an ongoing project for the creation of a larger 4/5 bedroom dwelling or for reversion to the original 2 bedroom bungalow"

"The works to date have been carried out without the benefit of planning permission or building regulation approval and it will therefore be necessary to retrospectively assess the works undertaken and apply for any planning permission or building regulations that may be required. Accordingly, the property may have limited mortgageability until it is completed in accordance with building regulations."

Proper b4lls up!

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My thoughts were HOW MUCH!!!!

Theyre having a laugh selling a death trap for that. View at own risk was hilarious.

I too wondered what the neighbours think. They are about to go from semi detatched bungalow to detached, should add another £75K to their value eh?

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Yes, what a complete joke. Clearly this is the work of a total idiot of an amateur developer. I reckon he bought it for £200K in the boom, has spent £30k making it structurally unsound, and without planning permission/building regs. It'll cost £50k to put it right and then it might be worth £150k.

Probably worth about £70k in its current condition.

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I wonder how many more cases of this type of gerry-building there would be but for the current regulations.

A classic example of someone undertaking work without fully realising the engineering nous needed to do a task.

This work seems to include a basement and knock-through in the living room which has caused structural movement. A look at the photo of the living room shows the supporting beam to be resting on 2-3 bricks jutting-out from the wall instead of the usual pier - even to my completely untrained eye I cant imagine the full weight of the roof to be properly supported.

Added to this there's a loft conversion which hasn't been properly supported i.e. floor not strenghtened, and almost certainly they've cut-out the purlins to create the space. No doubt there's no calculation on the load-bearing capacity of the walls/footing to support this additional weight.

Added to all this the property has a concrete-tiled roof - as these tiles get wet they get heavier - hence the need for support.

It's always best to get someone who knows what they're doing to work on such a project - if they screw-up you can sue them!

I'm betting that their neighbours are furious. Almost certainly the neighbours insurance company have had a hand in the sale - there may even have been an injunction to stop further "work".

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I wonder how many more cases of this type of gerry-building there would be but for the current regulations.

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I'm betting that their neighbours are furious. Almost certainly the neighbours insurance company have had a hand in the sale - there may even have been an injunction to stop further "work".

From mousePrice this looks like their next door neighbour bought a 'developed' twin three years ago.

TR7 1QW

147, Mount Wise

Semi-D - Freehold - Not new

£230,000 21/11/06

TR7 1QW

149, Mount Wise

Semi-D - Freehold - Not new

£97,000 02/03/01

Wonder if they used the same builder?

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What a mess!

The EA's website includes a link to the postcode and putting that into houseprices.co.uk brought up just two neighbouring properties:

Sale Date Price Type Tenure New Build Address

1 21/11/2006 £230,000 Semi F No 147, Mount Wise, Newquay, Cornwall, TR7 1QW

2 02/03/2001 £97,000 Semi F No 149, Mount Wise, Newquay, Cornwall, TR7 1QW

I think it's safe to assume that 147 is our demolition project and 149 is the soon-to-be-detached property.

Edit: damn, ROC we had the same idea but reached opposite conclusions!

Edited by up2late

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What a mess!

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damn, ROC we had the same idea but reached opposite conclusions!

No I think you are right.

No 149 is end of Mount Wise.

So 147 is the doomed property

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From the agent's website:

"being sold as it stands as an ongoing project for the creation of a larger 4/5 bedroom dwelling or for reversion to the original 2 bedroom bungalow"

So someone has taken a probably very pleasent 2 bedroom place and was trying to jam an extra 2/3 bedrooms into it, these property porn shows have alot to answer for at the very least they should be stressing the importance of getting planning permission and respectable tradesmen to do the important work.

Moron, they deserve to have the place repossed/condemmed

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What a mess!

The EA's website includes a link to the postcode and putting that into houseprices.co.uk brought up just two neighbouring properties:

Sale Date Price Type Tenure New Build Address

1 21/11/2006 £230,000 Semi F No 147, Mount Wise, Newquay, Cornwall, TR7 1QW

2 02/03/2001 £97,000 Semi F No 149, Mount Wise, Newquay, Cornwall, TR7 1QW

I think it's safe to assume that 147 is our demolition project and 149 is the soon-to-be-detached property.

Edit: damn, ROC we had the same idea but reached opposite conclusions!

This also show how stupid the prices we have now is, if the £97,000 house had increased by ~5% a year it would have been worth about £150,000 today which is far more sensible than the £230,000 that was paid three years ago. Just who the hell can afford any of these places?!

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This also show how stupid the prices we have now is, if the £97,000 house had increased by ~5% a year it would have been worth about £150,000 today which is far more sensible than the £230,000 that was paid three years ago. Just who the hell can afford any of these places?!

You think a £400k lifetime debt obligation is too large for your average earner?

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So someone has taken a probably very pleasent 2 bedroom place and was trying to jam an extra 2/3 bedrooms into it, these property porn shows have alot to answer for at the very least they should be stressing the importance of getting planning permission and respectable tradesmen to do the important work.

Moron, they deserve to have the place repossed/condemmed

Over-development seems to be the norm for bungalows nowadays. When I move last time I looked at several properties with loft-conversion work. The results were not encouraging.

Most had one of several faults. But in general:

1. The number of bedrooms rarely increased as one bedroom downstairs was invariably sacrificed to make a stairwell - usually this room ended-up as an 'office-space'.

2. If a bedroom wasn't sacrificed the other solution was to put the staircase in the living room - this invariably meant that the living room was difficult to heat as most of the heat rises and ends-up at the top of the stairs.

3. Many of the loft conversions were poor - the headroom in most post-war houses is too low - you really need something of a 60degree pitch to get satisfactory space.

4. Most dormer-windows are poorly maintained and several I viewed were simply rotting away - the whole dormer would have to go - water ingress in a couple of these had caused other problems to the roof trusses.

5. Heat - unless properly done some loft-conversions are baking-hot in summer and freezing in winter. As noted on this advert there's also the problem of condensation.

6. The structural problems associated with such jobs are enough to put me off!

Generally, this conversion work also reduces the number of smaller/retirement properties available to overall housing stock, it is likely to increase population-density as well with the associated impact on services such as schools, doctors etc.

Lastly, I'd hate to be the other side of such a semi - loss of privacy - you can see directly into the neighbour's back-garden, and associated noise from poorly completed loft work would be enough for most normal people to want to move.

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