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Friend of ours is a consultant psychiatrist, he told us yesterday that their hospitals budget has been cut by 6% and that he actually fears for his job. So far, so mundane.

Then he came out with something that made me want to bang my head on the floor, weep, hug him and punch him in the face all at the same time he said (and I quote):

'This means I'll definitely be voting labour at the next election, the tories will cut even deeper' :blink:

I was left to reflect on the irony of a quite clearly insane consultant psychiatrist.

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'This means I'll definitely be voting labour at the next election, the tories will cut even deeper' :blink:

I was left to reflect on the irony of a quite clearly insane consultant psychiatrist.

Maybe he should start spending more time with sane people?

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Same with Dental Contracts.. Dentists currently fear falling wages/unemployment.... poor things

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Does he have a daughter by any chance? Perhaps he should give her a credit card that comes out of his bank account, then explain to her that she must increase spending by 200% a year for the next 100 years. After they drag him off to debtors prison he might start to grasp the problem with spending what you don't have.

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'This means I'll definitely be voting labour at the next election, the tories will cut even deeper' :blink:

I was left to reflect on the irony of a quite clearly insane consultant psychiatrist.

Purely from a self-preservation standpoint, that's entirely sensible: he stands a better chance of keeping his job for longer under Labour, or of avoiding a pay cut. Dominic Grieve has already said that cutting doctors' salaries is on his agenda, and we've been training up more doctors than there is a need for over the last decade or so (something like three new medical schools have opened).

For the last year or so, the university department in which I work has been appointing a lecturer 'A' (starting salary £26k) every time a senior lecturer (£46k) or prof (£58k) leaves or retires. I've been informally advised to delay putting in my application for promotion to SL until 'it's absolutely bulletproof' (my boss's words), because the assessment panels have been instructed by the senior university management to nit-pick like mad and throw out any applications they can. Cutting back on senior staff and replacing them with more junior ones is a well-established way for the public sector to make savings without actually reducing the workforce, and so if your friend is a hospital consultant (i.e. the most expensive type of employee in the place barring senior management), I can understand him feeling vulnerable.

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Friend of ours is a consultant psychiatrist, he told us yesterday that their hospitals budget has been cut by 6% and that he actually fears for his job. So far, so mundane.

Then he came out with something that made me want to bang my head on the floor, weep, hug him and punch him in the face all at the same time he said (and I quote):

'This means I'll definitely be voting labour at the next election, the tories will cut even deeper' :blink:

I was left to reflect on the irony of a quite clearly insane consultant psychiatrist.

Please let him know that Cognitive Behavioural Therapy is a pile of crud! :lol:

Anyway, he shouldn`t be too worried - I daresay there`ll be a flood of cases coming his way once the recession enters its second phase :(<_<

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Then he came out with something that made me want to bang my head on the floor, weep, hug him and punch him in the face all at the same time he said (and I quote):

'This means I'll definitely be voting labour at the next election, the tories will cut even deeper' :blink:

I was left to reflect on the irony of a quite clearly insane consultant psychiatrist.

This is very much the attitude where I work.

'Things may be bad but just imagine how much worse they would be if the Tories got in' is a common type of statement. along with 'just think how high IR's would be if the Tories were in power? they were 15% the last time they were in, Labour are great as I am now saving £x a month on my mortgage'

This stuff is ingrained and the brainwashing certainly works. People just cannot see what is going on for themselves so believe everything that fat odious PM we have says. The fact he has caused much of this mess with his prudence is wasted on them. I cannot argue my point with them as they know I am a right leaning borderline Tory supporter anyway so apparently my opinion does not count.

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Purely from a self-preservation standpoint, that's entirely sensible: he stands a better chance of keeping his job for longer under Labour, or of avoiding a pay cut. Dominic Grieve has already said that cutting doctors' salaries is on his agenda, and we've been training up more doctors than there is a need for over the last decade or so (something like three new medical schools have opened).

For the last year or so, the university department in which I work has been appointing a lecturer 'A' (starting salary £26k) every time a senior lecturer (£46k) or prof (£58k) leaves or retires. I've been informally advised to delay putting in my application for promotion to SL until 'it's absolutely bulletproof' (my boss's words), because the assessment panels have been instructed by the senior university management to nit-pick like mad and throw out any applications they can. Cutting back on senior staff and replacing them with more junior ones is a well-established way for the public sector to make savings without actually reducing the workforce, and so if your friend is a hospital consultant (i.e. the most expensive type of employee in the place barring senior management), I can understand him feeling vulnerable.

So, you get a graduate who's been put into £40k of debt and then tell them they aren't going to earn what their father, who got a free education, did.

And you *think* there are plenty of medical graduates to cover the retirees posts?

It's going to be an interesting intergenerational civil war

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So, you get a graduate who's been put into £40k of debt and then tell them they aren't going to earn what their father, who got a free education, did.

And you *think* there are plenty of medical graduates to cover the retirees posts?

It's going to be an interesting intergenerational civil war

We've been in it for some time. Have a look at the final salary pensions thread and you'll see what I mean.

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Friend of ours is a consultant psychiatrist, he told us yesterday that their hospitals budget has been cut by 6% and that he actually fears for his job. So far, so mundane.

Then he came out with something that made me want to bang my head on the floor, weep, hug him and punch him in the face all at the same time he said (and I quote):

'This means I'll definitely be voting labour at the next election, the tories will cut even deeper' :blink:

I was left to reflect on the irony of a quite clearly insane consultant psychiatrist.

funnily enough, just talking about those tw4ts last night:

my take on psychiatrist's

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Has anyone ever actually 'cut' the NHS budget? Even in the Thatcher years the health budget grew throughout at record pace. It seems an unsaid fact that all parties will increase it until it reaches 100% of GDP. And then increase it more.

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'This means I'll definitely be voting labour at the next election, the tories will cut even deeper' :blink:

what a selfish coont

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So, you get a graduate who's been put into £40k of debt and then tell them they aren't going to earn what their father, who got a free education, did.

And you *think* there are plenty of medical graduates to cover the retirees posts?

It's going to be an interesting intergenerational civil war

I cant claim to have knowledge of lots of different medical disciplines but I know lots of GP's in the South East who cant find full time employment.

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And you *think* there are plenty of medical graduates to cover the retirees posts?

According to a piece on The World Tonight a few weeks ago, some 500 of last year's medical school graduates have either had to look for another line of work or emigrate.

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Friend of ours is a consultant psychiatrist, he told us yesterday that their hospitals budget has been cut by 6% and that he actually fears for his job. So far, so mundane.

Then he came out with something that made me want to bang my head on the floor, weep, hug him and punch him in the face all at the same time he said (and I quote):

'This means I'll definitely be voting labour at the next election, the tories will cut even deeper' :blink:

I was left to reflect on the irony of a quite clearly insane consultant psychiatrist.

I don't see how voting Labour will help him, if they just as the Tories would run the Health service on a business model. I think if you are wanting a reasonable health service then pay for the bugger. We can't have a private health servive so why not have a decent public one.

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I don't see how voting Labour will help him, if they just as the Tories would run the Health service on a business model. I think if you are wanting a reasonable health service then pay for the bugger. We can't have a private health servive so why not have a decent public one.

Always the same with Socialism, its very good if your part of the Inner Party, and shite on the masses.

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& fwiw, there is no such thing as ADHD, its proper name is 'sh1t parenting'

Is it possible to suffer from ADHD later in life? A kind of delayed disorder - DADHD. I think I've had it all my life. What benefits am I entitled to and can they be back dated?

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Same old tedious threads, this site is rapidly becoming a caricature of itself. So many wise people, who seem to be knowledgable on so many subjects. FWIW I don't think we would be in any better shape than if the tories were in power now or if they get in power in the spring. Carry on with your black and white thinking if you must, labour/socialism bad and tories/free market good. Maybe, just maybe the situation is slightly more nuanced, more grey than you describe it. I wonder if you people will ever wake up to the fact that the game is rigged, whoever is in power ? Or perhaps you will go to your graves still railing at whatever straw man/windmill is held up in front of you.

Some of us realize that it is the system that is at fault and not the pantomime villians that draw the tedious boos of the dullards and the imbeciles.

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