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Equality Commision Lying To Claim Gender Pay Gap

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8173445.stm

Every few months the equality quangos claim the pay gap is not falling and always back it up with fraudulent data.

yet no-one ever criticises them for it.

Its very easy to see through it: they usually take a cohort of people and just compare average female pay with average male pay. You can see how poorly this is done when they compare male and female doctors pay. I've seen how strictly this is regulated with levels of years of service contributing to paygrade. There can be no 'gender pay gap'.

yet the equalities commision would claim there is in the NHS because they deliberately ( and fraudently) avoid the facts and do not compare like with like. So as there are more male senior doctors and more females work part time that will skew averages. But any simpleton can see when comparing like for like there is no gap.

Now consider they fail to use simple logic in every report they produce how are they still being taken seriously?

We've seen in the banking world its going to the right schools that make the difference - male or female. If you're from a working class background or from an ethnic minority I suspect you don't get invited to join the quango/board of companies merrry go round.

We need to recognise going to the right public school still is more important then anything and the 'gender' issues are exclusively played out for public school girls in city jobs so they can get massive payouts when they want out.

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The Equality and Human Rights Commission is a mess. Trvor Phillips should go, but the awful gob Chakrabati will probably get the job if he does.

The Commission has been hi-jacked by factions who fight amongst themselves.

As your OP says, there are plenty of equality issues which are unaddressed. Right now, many disabled people are having their benefits cut. Not always without reason of course. But the underpinning for the policy was that all the measures are in place to ensure that they can work if they want to. If it was not so tragic, you might laugh.

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If you exist on the premise that we are all equal then everyting that follows has to be a lie to make it fit the false premise.

It seems inevitable they would end up disappearing up their own ar5eholes eventually.

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They should address the issue of why such a large proportion of street robbers in prison are Afro-carribean. Clearly it points to a racist judical system.

Or the large number of Afro-caribbeans diagnosed with schizophrenia or chronic renal failure, again clearly indicating racism in the NHS.

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If you exist on the premise that we are all equal then everyting that follows has to be a lie to make it fit the false premise.

It seems inevitable they would end up disappearing up their own ar5eholes eventually.

I agree. Equality should not be the so much the objective as the eradication of discrimination, which is different. But the belief that making complaints under the legislation is easy and effective is totally wrong.

The Phillips and Chakrabatis use the EHRC as a platform for their vanity, I believe. As such, they are betraying people with real problems.

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I agree. Equality should not be the so much the objective as the eradication of discrimination, which is different. But the belief that making complaints under the legislation is easy and effective is totally wrong.

The Phillips and Chakrabatis use the EHRC as a platform for their vanity, I believe. As such, they are betraying people with real problems.

I don't mind Chakrabati personally. She seems to be a lone voice for human rights while Nulabour seem hell bent on destroying them with the complicity of the MSM.

The whole champagne socialist principle of destroying elitism in education and health care while having access to the best (often at taxpayer expense eg The Blairs and Harmans at the London Oratory) for themselves and their children makes me want to vomit.

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I don't mind Chakrabati personally. She seems to be a lone voice for human rights while Nulabour seem hell bent on destroying them with the complicity of the MSM.

The whole champagne socialist principle of destroying elitism in education and health care while having access to the best (often at taxpayer expense eg The Blairs and Harmans at the London Oratory) for themselves and their children makes me want to vomit.

You do realise she used to work as a lawyer for the government right? Faux opposition, something we can do without.

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I agree. Equality should not be the so much the objective as the eradication of discrimination, which is different. But the belief that making complaints under the legislation is easy and effective is totally wrong.

Exactly. Equality of oppurtunity is desirable. Equality is not. Unfortunately the leftists in control for the past 50 years cannot and will not accept some people are stupid, some are clever. Some are lazy, some are motivated, and this is why they actually enforce non-meritocratic discrimination.

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I saw something related to this theme on the news yesterday. The bin men were up in arm about a pay cut. They had compared male and female workers of equivalent grade and decided they must equalise them. The fact that a bin man is heavy and dirty work out in the rain counts for nothing. But then the decision makers sit in offices, they decide that since they are the same 'grade', they should be paid the same. As seems to be the case with the authoritarian labour government, they see only master/slave relationships and a master must always be paid more than a slave, regardless of how hard or unpleasant the slaves job is. By the same reasoning a consultant heart surgeon should be paid less than a hospital administrator, even though one is much more skilled, and rarer, than the other.

Whatever happened to the market determining pay. I frequently got paid more than my manager. Managers are ten a penny, I had skills which could only be obtained by paying large sums of cash and the manager could not do my job. Thus the free market determined who gets what.

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Statistically older women earn less than men of the same age in the same job.

This is because they have taken 3 or 4 years out to have a family.

The idea that someone can take a career break but have their wages continue to rise as if they had still been working is ridiculus. Women's attitude to it is part of the problem as well.

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I saw something related to this theme on the news yesterday. The bin men were up in arm about a pay cut. They had compared male and female workers of equivalent grade and decided they must equalise them. The fact that a bin man is heavy and dirty work out in the rain counts for nothing. But then the decision makers sit in offices, they decide that since they are the same 'grade', they should be paid the same. As seems to be the case with the authoritarian labour government, they see only master/slave relationships and a master must always be paid more than a slave, regardless of how hard or unpleasant the slaves job is. By the same reasoning a consultant heart surgeon should be paid less than a hospital administrator, even though one is much more skilled, and rarer, than the other.

Whatever happened to the market determining pay. I frequently got paid more than my manager. Managers are ten a penny, I had skills which could only be obtained by paying large sums of cash and the manager could not do my job. Thus the free market determined who gets what.

Its exactly this sort of ideologically driven rubbish which is making us umcompetitive. I actually believe in fair pay...but not some sort of protected ground for public school types or dogma leading to job losses

The economic crisis means we're going to get poorer and those who do the work should get paid, those who don't just shouldn't. The only exception should be those who are genuinely ill or disabled. It means getting rid of paternity, maternity and the other none productive pay situations

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