richcrashman Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Last weeks property snakes and ladders made an error adding up the total on the Oast house in kent and there was the question of the £1500 a week or month on the Bristol property. I mailed C4 to tell them about it and got a reply !!!!! reply, Dear Mr ........., Thank you for contacting us regarding PROPERTY SNAKES AND LADDERS and forletting us know about the errors that were in last week's programme. As you pointed out there were 2 unfortunate errors - the first was amathematical error where the purchase price and the cost of the works were£75,000 less in the graphic and the voice over at the end of the show. Thiswas a human error and has been rectified for future repeats of theprogramme. The profit of £81,000 was a correct figure as the 3 independentestate agents valued the property at an average of just over £531,000 whichis £81,000 above the £450,000 total investment. The additional £75,000 costsinclude finance and other fees. The other error was the fact we say per week when it in fact per month.Again this was human error and has been rectified for the future repeats. It is unfortunate that this programme contained 2 mistakes, and despiterigorous viewings and re viewings, they can occasionally slip though.PROPERTY SNAKES AND LADDERS (and it's previous incarnation as PROPERTYLADDER) has a history of being factually sound, and we are sorry that onthis occasion our robust fact checking procedures failed to spot the errors.Rest assured that the production company have been told that this isunacceptable and have assured us that they are looking at introducingmeasures to minimise the risk of this happening again. Thanks again for spotting the errors and for letting us know, and we hopethis they didn't spoil your enjoyment of the programme too much. Regards, .................. Channel 4 Viewer Enquiries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
righttoleech Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Pleasant surprise that they took the trouble to reply and polite to boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie-eater Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Last weeks property snakes and ladders made an error adding up the total on the Oast house in kent and there was the question of the £1500 a week or month on the Bristol property. I mailed C4 to tell them about it and got a reply !!!!!reply, Dear Mr ........., Thank you for contacting us regarding PROPERTY SNAKES AND LADDERS and forletting us know about the errors that were in last week's programme. As you pointed out there were 2 unfortunate errors - the first was amathematical error where the purchase price and the cost of the works were£75,000 less in the graphic and the voice over at the end of the show. Thiswas a human error and has been rectified for future repeats of theprogramme. The profit of £81,000 was a correct figure as the 3 independentestate agents valued the property at an average of just over £531,000 whichis £81,000 above the £450,000 total investment. The additional £75,000 costsinclude finance and other fees. The other error was the fact we say per week when it in fact per month.Again this was human error and has been rectified for the future repeats. It is unfortunate that this programme contained 2 mistakes, and despiterigorous viewings and re viewings, they can occasionally slip though.PROPERTY SNAKES AND LADDERS (and it's previous incarnation as PROPERTYLADDER) has a history of being factually sound, and we are sorry that onthis occasion our robust fact checking procedures failed to spot the errors.Rest assured that the production company have been told that this isunacceptable and have assured us that they are looking at introducingmeasures to minimise the risk of this happening again. Thanks again for spotting the errors and for letting us know, and we hopethis they didn't spoil your enjoyment of the programme too much. Regards, .................. Channel 4 Viewer Enquiries C4 can't add up or write correct English, it would seem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Last weeks property snakes and ladders made an error adding up the total on the Oast house in kent and there was the question of the £1500 a week or month on the Bristol property. I mailed C4 to tell them about it and got a reply !!!!! Well done, richcrashman, for undertaking to follow this up. Lots of people spotted it, but you did something about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNACR Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Yes, well done for banging the HPC drum. Although, don't be surprised if at sometime in the future you get an email from a Channel 4 production team asking if you'd like to participate in a documentary they're doing on pedants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richcrashman Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 We should all do something about it if we something wrong. If we can't bothered to even write an email or letter then there is no point hanging around on here just complaining about it. I have to admit i was pleasantly suprised to get a reply like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie-eater Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 We should all do something about it if we something wrong. If we can't bothered to even write an email or letter then there is no point hanging around on here just complaining about it.I have to admit i was pleasantly suprised to get a reply like that. Apathy, innit. Shame they didn't agree to issue a 5 second voice over at the end of the next episode. If there is another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Spider Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 The profit of £81,000 was a correct figure as the 3 independentestate agents valued the property at an average of just over £531,000 whichis £81,000 above the £450,000 total investment. The additional £75,000 costsinclude finance and other fees. I don't watch the prog (no tv) but was that actually a "profit" or an "imagination figment" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 C4 can't add up or write correct English, it would seem. Amazing how few people can communicate the English language these days ... Apart from that though a decent response from C4, & I don't think the OP was being pedantic at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I don't watch the prog (no tv) but was that actually a "profit" or an "imagination figment" . I would like to know this as well. Sounds very much like the profit is all in the mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richcrashman Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 I'd love to look over the honest figures for some of these projects, i guess the show only goes on what it's told. Its still up for sale at £525k asking. So there have certainly been more monthly mortgage payments etc to come out of that now £75k so called profit. I cant remember the date they back to value the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairies Wear Boots Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'd love to look over the honest figures for some of these projects, i guess the show only goes on what it's told.Its still up for sale at £525k asking. So there have certainly been more monthly mortgage payments etc to come out of that now £75k so called profit. I cant remember the date they back to value the place. If all your friends, neighbours, workmates etc are going to be watching, you would fudge the figures slightly to look a little less like a numpty, wouldn't you? I did wonder if they would be able to sell even at the lowest agents figure, because of the crash. I found the property on findaproperty and had a look at it's competition. You can get a shed load of house for 525K around Faversham, with lots of garden. Your going to really want a 'high end spec' alot to pay that sort of money to get 3 beds and a very averaged sized garden. Why not have five beds and 3 acres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcellar Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I don't watch the prog (no tv) but was that actually a "profit" or an "imagination figment" . It's not a profit until the cash is in the bank. Until then it's pure speculation and not worth the paper it's written on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Bruno Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 It's not a profit until the cash is in the bank. Until then it's pure speculation and not worth the paper it's written on.+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearbullfence Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Amazing how few people can communicate the English language these days ...Apart from that though a decent response from C4, & I don't think the OP was being pedantic at all. You included, it would seem. People do not communicate the English language. People communicate via the English language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadoube Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'd love to look over the honest figures for some of these projects, i guess the show only goes on what it's told.Its still up for sale at £525k asking. So there have certainly been more monthly mortgage payments etc to come out of that now £75k so called profit. I cant remember the date they back to value the place. That shows a mature understanding of how tv programmes are made and is a refreshing change from the automatic assumption of wild conspiracy that so often occurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saberu Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 You included, it would seem.People do not communicate the English language. People communicate via the English language. Haha well spotted, and that he is a pedant replying to another pedant's post on an even more pedantic point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Well done for actually getting off your **** and doing something about the mistakes, it was more than any of the rest of us did. Is your post a copy and paste of the original email as it arrived? If so, it's a shame they didn't take the time to proof read it before sending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AteMoose Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 wow, expensive mistake, I wonder if they re-shot the scenes or did a voice over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'm sure somebody on here said they asked Beeny via Twitter and she'd confirmed the £1500 a week figure to be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Let me get this straight, the use Estate Agent valuations, without any adjustments,to calculate profits? That is delusional nah, grany bovey is on the production team and assured them that the profits are there, just yet to materialise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richcrashman Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 The letter is a copy & paste as it arrived just with names blanked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The letter is a copy & paste as it arrived just with names blanked out. No surprise that they didn't bother to check the program content before transmission then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deflation Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 If I remember correctly, it was Beeny herself that did the voice-over saying it was 'up' for £1500 a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaxas Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 If I remember correctly, it was Beeny herself that did the voice-over saying it was 'up' for £1500 a week. So, a 500k house for 6k a month? If you say it like that, people will just laugh at you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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