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Just saw the first 15 seconds of today's HUTH.

The production team have obviously been told to balance things up a bit:

Female Presenter: "Property prices can obviously go up and down......"

Male Presenter: "......but over the years property has ALWAYS proven to be a great investment!".

I cannot emphasis the "always proven" intonation he gave.

Disgraceful, and unrepentant :angry: :angry:

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You know, you can actually complain to OFCOM about the dodgy investment advice given out here. If several of us did it they woul d have to launch an investigation.

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You know, you can actually complain to OFCOM about the dodgy investment advice given out here. If several of us did it they woul d have to launch an investigation.

I'm game.

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I'm game.

So am I

I think this should appear on the bbc iplayer later.

What we is specific examples of why property hasn't always been a good investment and the exact timing of the alleged VI ramping/diodgy investment advice

Then we can put in a complaint

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/complain/progs/spe.../?itemid=285269

In fact I wonder whether it's worth extending this to some of the beeb articles that are clearly ramping because I'm sick of my license fee being spent like this,

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I'm game. Anybody know how many people we need to force an investigation.

What about Property snakes and ladders not being able to add up the own figures??

According to this, we only need 8

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/a...ay-remarks.html

I think we should come up with an email highlighting why property isn't always a good investment then it will be easy for a few of us to fire it off

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I've got the day off work :-)

This programme is quite galling. That woman is right now trying to persuade some 10 yr old kid to get into pwopertee. Sick bastards, did they not watch Freefall? If it's on iPlayer, it's about 38 minutes in I guess.

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Just saw the first 15 seconds of today's HUTH.

The production team have obviously been told to balance things up a bit:

Female Presenter: "Property prices can obviously go up and down......"

Male Presenter: "......but over the years property has ALWAYS proven to be a great investment!".

Ignoring that this is entirely dependent on banks making enough loans available at a high LTV and multiples, rather than any sound fundamentals.

In reality houses get old and need constant maintenance and repairs, and are in no way considered a productive asset unless its a commercial property.

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Complain all you want: the TV presenter's opinion is just that: his opinion.

No-one has to take him seriously.

One person's opinion about whether or not it is a good time to buy property is not "investment advice", it is just one person's opinion.

You may disagree with him, that is your right.

But he is not under an obligation to be right, any more than you, me or anyone else. If you watch the horse-racing coverage on telly and they give their tip, and it doesn't win, you cannot seek recompense.

The BBC will point out that there have been plenty of show on telly recently about the property price crash, the recession, how debt is affecting people etc etc.

You cannot complain on the grounds that "I think that the opinion of this person on telly is totally wrong, so therefore they shouldn't be allowed to say it".

It will not succeed.

In fact, I think I recall someone actually doing just this a few months or even a year ago and getting nowhere.

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Complain all you want: the TV presenter's opinion is just that: his opinion.

No-one has to take him seriously.

One person's opinion about whether or not it is a good time to buy property is not "investment advice", it is just one person's opinion.

You may disagree with him, that is your right.

But he is not under an obligation to be right, any more than you, me or anyone else. If you watch the horse-racing coverage on telly and they give their tip, and it doesn't win, you cannot seek recompense.

The BBC will point out that there have been plenty of show on telly recently about the property price crash, the recession, how debt is affecting people etc etc.

You cannot complain on the grounds that "I think that the opinion of this person on telly is totally wrong, so therefore they shouldn't be allowed to say it".

It will not succeed.

In fact, I think I recall someone actually doing just this a few months or even a year ago and getting nowhere.

Well I think it's better to see what OFCOM say, after all it's a 5 minute effort

But your post is helpful, because now instead of just highlighting the fact that it's dodgy investment advice, I'm going to say that I'm OFFENDED because so many people are getting repossessed at the moment and these comments can be construed as offensive to the thousands of people that have just lost their homes :D

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I'm up for lodging a complaint!

Cool, I'll work out details of the timing of the comment and post up details and a draft complaint email.

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I'm up for lodging a complaint!

just switch it off!

No audience will mean the programme gets pulled in no time.

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I have noticed that all the auctions seem to be taking place between April and September 2007.

The presenters are not so vile as yer average property porn scum, so I don't get so wound up by this programme as say the Filth and Krusty show. However it is blatant hard core ramping whereby the VIs are happy to make a percent or two, and sheeple destroyed in the process are simply collateral damage.

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Complain all you want: the TV presenter's opinion is just that: his opinion.

No-one has to take him seriously.

One person's opinion about whether or not it is a good time to buy property is not "investment advice", it is just one person's opinion.

You may disagree with him, that is your right.

But he is not under an obligation to be right, any more than you, me or anyone else. If you watch the horse-racing coverage on telly and they give their tip, and it doesn't win, you cannot seek recompense.

The BBC will point out that there have been plenty of show on telly recently about the property price crash, the recession, how debt is affecting people etc etc.

You cannot complain on the grounds that "I think that the opinion of this person on telly is totally wrong, so therefore they shouldn't be allowed to say it".

It will not succeed.

In fact, I think I recall someone actually doing just this a few months or even a year ago and getting nowhere.

Outstandingly incorrect, for example:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/1...e-charles-moore

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Libelling (or slandering, in the case of the spoken word) a person is a different matter. In the case you refer to, the leader of this muslim organisation claimed that a panellist libelled him by saying that he supported the killing of British troops, when he hadn't.

Here, no-one has been libelled.

Someone has stated an opinion on the likely future direction of house prices. Who can sue, and on what grounds?

The case you refer to above has no bearing at all on the subject of this thread, does it?

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How about the fact that they mislead by not mentioning costs & taxes etc that eat into the profits.

Also how they gloss over the fact that some guy has spent 3 months tarting a place up & putting in paper thin walls to maximise his rental yield for less than minimum wage when they work it all out.

I have to say I find HUTH strangely watchable if I happen to be at home when its on which I cant say about most property porn.

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