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A Lesson In How The Celeb Lifestyle Can Lead To A Horrific End

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Clearly some valuable lessons can be learned from this story - perhaps a cautionary note for another self proclaimed financial genius and his interior designer (come TV presenter wife) who a regularly discussed on HPC in their very own dedicated spread.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12...olen-yacht.html

Edited by mikelivingstone

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'Her idea of a good time involved being on a boat with champagne and canapes...'

At least she got one out of three.

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"finanical consultant" & interior designer starve

Lovely.

They are trying to copy the sort of excess that feeds them.

Maybe they will find a better way to live

I doubt it Doc.... they're dead. :rolleyes:

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What does it tell us about the dreams that our western culture feeds?

Not as much as it tells us about adequate seafaring preparation.

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Not as much as it tells us about adequate seafaring preparation.

Yes, although I put the story up as a horrific moral lesson, this point is actually a very good one. I know quite a few hobby skippers and the number of horror stories they can tell me about unprepared seafarers is astonishing. The RNLI and Coast Guard certainly are good value for money in terms of saving people from their own recklessness - unlike the Bank of England.

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"He had served two jail terms for fraud and 'globetrotted' before settling in Cornwall, where he ran a financial consultancy"

I may be being naive, but isn't there some sort of regulatory body that is supposed to ensure that convicted fraudsters can't be FAs?

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Yes, very interesting, but the Mail didn't tell us how much the boat is worth.

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"He had served two jail terms for fraud and 'globetrotted' before settling in Cornwall, where he ran a financial consultancy"

I may be being naive, but isn't there some sort of regulatory body that is supposed to ensure that convicted fraudsters can't be FAs?

Are you suggesting there is a distinction between the two roles? Oh sorry you said "convicted" fraudsters.

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Yes, although I put the story up as a horrific moral lesson, this point is actually a very good one. I know quite a few hobby skippers and the number of horror stories they can tell me about unprepared seafarers is astonishing. The RNLI and Coast Guard certainly are good value for money in terms of saving people from their own recklessness - unlike the Bank of England.

I'm a qualified skipper and I think the moral of this story is don't nick a boat if you don't know how to sail.

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Yes, very interesting, but the Mail didn't tell us how much the boat is worth.

Im suprised the mail didn't tell us how much their hosue was worth ;)

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I'm a qualified skipper and I think the moral of this story is don't nick a boat if you don't know how to sail.

Too true. After reading this I can't but help think that anyone with an ounce of sailing knowledge would have been able to get out of that situation pretty easily. Perhaps they were too drugged up, who knows.

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There was a time in British history when we had the skills to make sailing profitable. Have we really not got the bottle to engage in even a bit of small scale piracy?

Edited by Uriah Heap

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Not as much as it tells us about adequate seafaring preparation.

:lol::lol::lol:

I know I shouldn't laugh, but that was so well caught (you deserve to win the ashes on that one!)

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Too true. After reading this I can't but help think that anyone with an ounce of sailing knowledge would have been able to get out of that situation pretty easily. Perhaps they were too drugged up, who knows.

I never leave the house without a sextant, bucket of pitch, maritime maps, Kendal mint cake, several flares and something by Jilly Cooper.

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I never leave the house without a sextant, bucket of pitch, maritime maps, Kendal mint cake, several flares and something by Jilly Cooper.

You could look strange in your back garden with that lot...

Edited by juvenal

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A couple of thieving drug-dealers come to a grisly end and MacGuffin cares...not one jot!

Cheap, unsuccessful crooks who caused misery to a string of victims. I think Crime Watch or similar featured these two a few years back.

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And have been since 2006 :huh:

Why do they publish it now? Nothing else to put on that page?

Thats what I was thinking ! did they just find this story washed up on a beach somewhere..?

Amost three years ago now,that this happened.

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Thats what I was thinking ! did they just find this story washed up on a beach somewhere..?

Amost three years ago now,that this happened.

Is it that the Inquest only finalised in Cornwall this week?

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I never leave the house without a sextant, bucket of pitch, maritime maps, Kendal mint cake, several flares and something by Jilly Cooper.

So its BYO in Soho these days?

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I'm a qualified skipper and I think the moral of this story is don't nick a boat if you don't know how to sail.

Quite - Sounds like Karma to me.

When I owned a small yacht some fecker nicked my tender :angry:

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Yes, very interesting, but the Mail didn't tell us how much the boat is worth.

Without this sort of subtle socio-economic class indicator written into the article I'm completely unable to assess whether I'm supposed to be happy or sorry about this.

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