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They can't even spin convincingly

About 15% of High Street shops will be empty by the end of 2009, the British Retail Consortium (BRC) has predicted. This would be more than double the 7% of stores which were vacant at the start of the year

If the first story is true then the other 3 can't be? Or am I missing the point here?

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the BBC are an expensive national embarassment these days

Agreed. If they reduced the licence fee they could be a bargain-basement national embarassment.

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If the first story is true then the other 3 can't be? Or am I missing the point here?

Print enough money to keep house prices up, while the productive economy is starved of investment. Where's the problem? :huh::unsure:

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They can't even spin convincingly

About 15% of High Street shops will be empty by the end of 2009, the British Retail Consortium (BRC) has predicted. This would be more than double the 7% of stores which were vacant at the start of the year

If the first story is true then the other 3 can't be? Or am I missing the point here?

I'm confused. In what way does the first story contradict the other three?

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They can't even spin convincingly

About 15% of High Street shops will be empty by the end of 2009, the British Retail Consortium (BRC) has predicted. This would be more than double the 7% of stores which were vacant at the start of the year

If the first story is true then the other 3 can't be? Or am I missing the point here?

I see nothing contradictory. The first story reports a source stating there has been increased activity (not prices note!). It also emphasises the level is still well down on previous levels and seasonal factors are a significant part of the increase. Perfectly honest reporting.

No reason why low but increasing levels of activity cannot happen when govt debt is increasing, while the economy is predicted to shrink and a high proportion of the high street is vacant. And a good thing too - when the market is less stagnant it is able to move in the direction we think it will.

Certainly nothing to justify the accusation of spin, you owe the BBC an apology ;)

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increasing levels of activity

There's 'increasing levels of activity' in an ant's nest near my shed

Not because of a coming prosperity, but...

Because I'm heading their way with a kettle of boiling water....

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Why have they sent to presenters on the Trans Siberian Railway? For what effin' purpose (BBC News this morning)

Perhaps they will leave them over there?

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anyway thought people at the beeb finished at three o'clock. ;)

do you curse Johnathon Ross and the desire for increased transparency he caused?

:lol: You seem to imagine I work for the BBC.

Not so, I work for a wonderfully capitalist US company that hires and fires on merit. I just take exception to the anti-BBC comment that can sometimes occur on HPC. Its often dishonest and lowers the credibility of the good things said here. I don't expect this point of view to be a popular one, but I've never run with the pack.

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:lol: You seem to imagine I work for the BBC.

Not so, I work for a wonderfully capitalist US company that hires and fires on merit. I just take exception to the anti-BBC comment that can sometimes occur on HPC. Its often dishonest and lowers the credibility of the good things said here. I don't expect this point of view to be a popular one, but I've never run with the pack.

I'd agree with the sentiment but question the use of the qualifier 'sometimes'. There is a relentless and unjustified criticism of the BBC on this site - anyone who doesn't interpret economic and political events through a particular prism (BBC included) is attacked.

The irony is that those who make these ad hominem attacks accuse others of Stalinism. (cf Aunty Pravda, Brown Broadcasting Co etc. etc. ad nauseum).

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I'd agree with the sentiment but question the use of the qualifier 'sometimes'. There is a relentless and unjustified criticism of the BBC on this site - anyone who doesn't interpret economic and political events through a particular prism (BBC included) is attacked.

The irony is that those who make these ad hominem attacks accuse others of Stalinism. (cf Aunty Pravda, Brown Broadcasting Co etc. etc. ad nauseum).

Yeah, and it's like that with house prices, BTLers and estate agents. Where's the balance eh?

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I'd agree with the sentiment but question the use of the qualifier 'sometimes'. There is a relentless and unjustified criticism of the BBC on this site - anyone who doesn't interpret economic and political events through a particular prism (BBC included) is attacked.

The irony is that those who make these ad hominem attacks accuse others of Stalinism. (cf Aunty Pravda, Brown Broadcasting Co etc. etc. ad nauseum).

Maybe. But the underlying message you get is that rising house prices are a good thing, that constitutes a 'recovery', back to normal etc. That's a very political view for an organisation that's supposed to be neutral.

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There's 'increasing levels of activity' in an ant's nest near my shed

Not because of a coming prosperity, but...

Because I'm heading their way with a kettle of boiling water....

If there are more transactions one month than in the previous one there has been increasing activity. I never understand why folk think this is inevitably a positive indicator for house prices. Activity merely means the number of transactions - the resulting price change can be either up or down. If you think the prices are moving down the higher the activity the better (faster/bigger) the HPC.

I prefer ant poweder to the kettle technique, but merely because my ants nest is in some plants I don't want to kill.

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I'd agree with the sentiment but question the use of the qualifier 'sometimes'. There is a relentless and unjustified criticism of the BBC on this site - anyone who doesn't interpret economic and political events through a particular prism (BBC included) is attacked.

The irony is that those who make these ad hominem attacks accuse others of Stalinism. (cf Aunty Pravda, Brown Broadcasting Co etc. etc. ad nauseum).

Well I have to admit I was soft-pedalling in the hope the more relentless critics might actually bother to read the words. You put it much more accurately.

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I'd agree with the sentiment but question the use of the qualifier 'sometimes'. There is a relentless and unjustified criticism of the BBC on this site - anyone who doesn't interpret economic and political events through a particular prism (BBC included) is attacked.

The irony is that those who make these ad hominem attacks accuse others of Stalinism. (cf Aunty Pravda, Brown Broadcasting Co etc. etc. ad nauseum).

+1

Bulls are banned for being idiots. Idiotic, bigoted and racist bears are allowed.

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Yeah, and it's like that with house prices, BTLers and estate agents. Where's the balance eh?

You can also add the 'balanced views' and 'direction' ;) given by those Transparent, Unaccountable personalities called "Trust_ees of the BBC"

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my problem with the BBC is that I'm forced to pay

That's really all you need to say.

In the 21st Century in Great Britain, it is illegal to use a device - whether self-built or purchased - for the reception and translation of radio waves without registration of the device and payment to the government of a fee. Failure to comply will result is substantial fines and potential inprisonment.

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I was speaking to someone who'd worked on TV and he said that BBC Productions are swimming in staff compared to equivalent commercial ones and completely inefficient. No idea if that's true - he just said.

I'm not against the idea of licence-fee TV but the current BBC is not what I want.

Why do they need to pay Jonathan Ross squillions of quid? Who cares if he's on BBC1, Channel 4 or ITV or Sky 3?

Why do we need BBC News when Channel 4 news is much better and even the satellite channels are no worse?

It'd have a radically scaled back BBC making high quality drama and natural history and bugger the ratings. The remainder of the budget I would distribute to small indie production companies via competitions. There's some freaking great no-budget shorts on Vimeo - think what REAL talent could do with £20k.

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I used to work for the BBC and everything I read on here re Auntie Pravda / Brown Broadcasting Corp etc is accurate. The people I worked for survived by arshen-licken as Bruno would say and sucking up to the Nu Labour agenda to the point where I felt like shouting "Is anyone awake here?". It was like an episode of Star Trek on a toga-love-planet.

Have you people forgotten the terrifying 'apology' by the BBC heads after the Hutton incident? "We apologise unreservedly..."etc. An awful moment for freedom.

The BBC are the voice of Nu-Labour and their agenda - get used to it / suck it up. Don't defend them - they are fakes, liars and very very poor journalists.

The favourite phrase of our 'news' editor? "Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story".

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Well that is one who apparently has worked for the BBC who agrees with all the Pravda chat.

Anyone else counter that ?

When it comes to property the BBC is a complete 100% VI. The reason behind it ? Not too sure. It could be down to the individuals concerned or a larger force. Either way there is no dount IMO.

Just watch the BBC property porn shows - and any property related story on BBC Scotland News. They should have been made instead by Estate Agents. Would have been a more balanced view in all honestly.

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Why have they sent to presenters on the Trans Siberian Railway? For what effin' purpose (BBC News this morning)

Perhaps they will leave them over there?

To see if they can get around the world in 80 days at our expense great news story im sure, do you know of anyone who would be remotely interested in this jaunt, why they didnt just join the 450 or so of the BBC staff at the golf open,:angry:

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