Feeeling Crushed By It All

[Milton]

Thought I would post a thread.

For many years been feeling crushed by it all.

Tough chappy though.

Not feeling particularly bad today.

Just used to feeling crushed and unable to get ahead all the time, for years really.

Screw that.

Sodding Labour are to blame here.

I went to look at a house in 1999

Nearly bought. Hesitated because of a relationship with girlfriend, combined with moving for job.

The houses I went to look at had been priced at 60- 70k for a few years. None of us knew then that they would BOOM.

Prioirities were different so i waited.

Went to look at the same house a few months later, it had increaded by 12k!!!!

At the time it seemed like a ridiculous increase so I pulled away.

Little did we know....

From there onwards, I looked into the initiatives every year, for 8 years, I talked to the housing associations, estate agents, house builders, Joseph Rowntree trust, other trusts, and Homebuy agents for all the government schemes.They were all completely useless.

The best scheme the government offered was the FTBI scheme.Whereupon, I would be required to purchase up to 50% of the property and pay rent on the remaining percentage retained by the government, or trust. Paying equity on a sliding scale after the first three years.

However, when you work out the repayments, with the interest, over the life of the mortage,and add the rent to this sum, it was nearly as expensive as purchasing the entire property!

The only government funded shared equity schemes, within 25 miles of me, fell into a number of different county councils territories.And according to all the local County Councils, who i contacted, time and time again, I had to have family, work, or some other form of ties to the area, to move there or live there!

The only accomodation available were the unsellable high rise flats in City Centres. Slums of the future. And they only made those available after they realised they could not sell them to the locals.

Gordon Brown stated in his 1997 budget speech that “I will not let house get out of controlâ€.

He lies about the rate of inflation, not taking into account stupidly high Gas and Electric and food bills and housing!.

[iT is not 2-3% as Brown lied in the past.]

I am so unbeliveably angry with Labour, its untrue. There are tens of thousands of us in this situation.

And it is the fault of the Labour government.

There are so many debates on here. Let us not lose sight of that fact.

They have destroyed the dreams and aspirations of generations

New Labour have created, a badly uneven society, with people in terraced houses, worth half a million pounds on paper!

And others, doing the same job, on the same wages, in identical houses with nothing at all.

All because they did not get onto the housing ladder around 1999.

We always thought it was insane and stupid to borrow more than 2.5/ 3x salary.

Yet Labour have rewarded stupidity, lies, duplicity, immorality, incompetence, and colabrative theft.

If that complete B@stard Brown had warned us that he was going to let house prices spiral out of control, in some cases trebling in value, we would have all bought then.

But instead Brown said,

I will not let house prices get out of control. [1997]

Are Labour going to bail me out? Give me back the tens of thousands of pounds I have wasted in rent?

The truth is there was NEVER any political will to let the average person, earning an average wage, afford an average house.

Why?

Well, my local LABOUR MP was flipping houses, buying and selling, and making hundreds of thousands of pounds in profits, in the process, from 2000-2007

They never thought that the Telegraph would request to see their expenses under the freedom of information act.

When you pull away from it, and look at it, it really is unbelievable, but is completely true.

Browns expenses system turned our MP's into nothing more than property speculators. And Labours [unwritten policy] really was that the average joe, earning average wage should be been unable to afford an avergae house

I have written Emails to to my MP who I mention through sites like: Theywork foryou, and I never recieved any response. After the DT published her expenses I understand why! [Ann Cryer Labour MP]

I know there are a number of Labour stooges who regularly post on this site.

To lie, decieve and frankly attack, as they have done for years. So I will be ignoring the minutae of attacks against my post.

Labour are completely disgusting. With the recession, [i am an engineer, my career is completely dead. You would not believe how bad my industry is]

Being voted out is not enough.

And they continue to lie.

Serious action is required against such enemies of the people of the Britain.

They have in large part, destroyed my chances of a decent life.

Champagne socialist B@stards.

I am so sick of it. I hope some Al Qaeda Chappy blows them up.

[Mikhail Liebenstein]

Thought I would post a thread.

For many years been feeling crushed by it all.

Tough chappy though.

Not feeling particularly bad today.

Just used to feeling crushed and unable to get ahead all the time, for years really.

Screw that.

Sodding Labour are to blame here.

I understand your frustration. Whilst I didn't miss the boat, in 1999/2000 and was lucky to sell to rent in 2007, it always seems as if the next rung up is further than you'd like to extend and you know full well all that what is being offered is overpriced.

Anyway, the bull trap seems to be ending now, and once again I am seeing the fear on the faces of the babyboomers trying to off load their overpriced houses.

Go and see a few properties and sense the fear in the vendors. The easiest to spot are the once proud who mysteriously seem to have a lot of possessions in boxes. They know interest rates will be heading up and this is their last chance to sell - by all means laugh at their misfortune and stupidity and know inside that you'll be getting their house half price with just a little patience.

[yourfriendlyestateagent]

http://www.samaritans.org/

[Guest Skinty]

I could have bought if I had left university after my first degree and not tried to contribute something that would outlast me.

Don't look back, look forward and think about the best way to get ahead on the path that you are on now. Just as many new options are opened as ones that are closed off.

But as for Labour, I'd be very happy to see the politicians swinging from lamposts.

[Milton]

http://www.samaritans.org/

If there is any anger that youve sensed. I would prefer to take it out on you, looking at your username than myself.

But thankyou ever so kindly for the post.

And, can i also add, my good friend, [!] that there will always be a job for people, whom possess the same qualifications as your average estate agent, stacking shelves in your local supermarket.

Evryone FTB I know feels the same way............[ you little d1pshit. ;0) ]

[Guest Skinty]

Anyway, the bull trap seems to be ending now, and once again I am seeing the fear on the faces of the babyboomers trying to off load their overpriced houses.

Good advice. It's not just about knowing when to get on the ride, it's also about knowing when to get off. The majority don't know this.

So now we just have to remind ourselves that we as renters aren't laden by the same burden as those that fuelled the boom. We have freedom, we have cheaper living costs and have less to lose. And sometime in the future when the baby boomers absolutely have to offload to fund their now early retirements (compared to what faces us) then prices will stay low. Not too many years now before we will have extra low prices.

[Frank Hovis]

The damage done by Blair & Brown to a generation just will not be admitted by these self-serving bastards.

Dan has a problem because he didn't buy in 99.

Others have problems because they bought from 2003.

Sympathy for all. People need stability from government so that they can get on with their lives. Instead they get a roller coaster ride to hell.

What we really needed from 1997 was what we were promised - No more boom and bust - an empty mocking lie from Brown. I agree that he should be dangling from a lamp post for the misery and suffering he has inflicted.

[rolf]

Dan, same boat here.You're not alone.

I would love to beat the sh1t out of ~Gordo Brown

[Milton]

The Labour Party are pure SCUM

[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

It's really the banksters who enabled the lending splurge which led to the house price increases. And - through donations, lobbying and sheer 'power,' they control things - just look at Goldman Sachs in the US. We need to challenge the status quo and challenge it hard!

[Milton]

Lets mention the banks.

Lloyds, now owner of the largest percentages of mortgages in the UK market, [circa 30% of the market] because of their acquisition of HBOS,government funded.

[Why was this Gov funded?]

Because of Labours utter and complete incompetence, and utter failure

[is there evidence that the present gov admire the Soviet system of gov? Yes. Of course.]

The LABOUR governmnent are thieves. Stealing this money from taxpayer.

Why?

Banks like NR, Lloyds, HBOS, B&B had to be bailed out was because they had lent too much to anyone who could sign their own name.

We all know that is true

This was always enforced by our Labour governmnet. And Encouraged by LABOUR. {SCUM}

Banks would have gone under because of this huge debt. [And Labour actively encourages this practice of lending on a much as 10x salary. Why not 20, 50, or 20000 times salary?

When would they have stoppped?

Or was it a runaway train?

OF COURSE.

The truth is guys, they were just normal people, who DID NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT WAS HAPPENING, and

LIE for a living.

Its difficult for us normal people, in everyday jobs to realise that LABOUR areally were that incompetent]

Created by the housing market. Toxic Mortgage Debt.

Most banks have lost 80%+ in value because of this huge toxic mortgage debt.

The banks should have been allowed to fail.

It is the price of houses that should have been allowed to fall by large percentages. To help us continue to be an even society. {The Brits}

Instead the LABOUR government wants everyone in their twenties, thirties. Every student. Anyone not on the housing ladder. To become [indentured] slaves, and pay £186k for a house that was worth £80k in 1999.

LABOUR AND BROWN Are EVIL.

Evil Evil Bastards.

Not to mention the fact that The average taxpayer is paying 51% more in tax than they did in 1997. etc etc etc.......

THE LABOUR PARTY. LET US RULE SLAVES

[Milton]

I would genuinely go so far, [for those of you are watchers of this board] to say that it is an arguable defence [just as much as entering certain wars,] that a government who, are this despotical, [and what does it mean to be despotical, [?] if not, an entity that is constantly barring any life progress of their citizens?] need to be forcibly removed.

Its gone that far [watchers] guys.

That why there are so many certain websites with [purportedly] dissident [!] behaviour.

We, Normal people have no choice. As in the Soviet system.

[Labour would say [lie] we are a democracy, because we can say we are!!....... ]

Have a look at Isiah Berlins neg and pos liberty philosophy........[New Labours blue prints for the

UK!!!]

LABOUR ARE THE ENEMY; [iN VERY MUCH THE SAME VEIN WHY WE WERE IN THE COLD WAR]