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Was watching ITV news at ten last night and after hearing the hype and drama about swine flu, I got to thinking that maybe by making a meal out of the dangers of dying tomorrow, NuLabour are hoping that people go back to their "live (spend) for today, as tomorrow you could die, where's the credit card" approach to life and start spending again.

Just a desparate last gasp attempt to save the economy, Gordon knows things are looking grim for him.

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Swine

Was watching ITV news at ten last night and after hearing the hype and drama about swine flu, I got to thinking that maybe by making a meal out of the dangers of dying tomorrow, NuLabour are hoping that people go back to their "live (spend) for today, as tomorrow you could die, where's the credit card" approach to life and start spending again.

Just a desparate last gasp attempt to save the economy, Gordon knows things are looking grim for him.

Was reading your post just now, and after seeing your ignorant and uninformed drivel, I got to thinking maybe you shouldn't post any more.

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I expect the reverse would be the case. If the tabloids scare people enough about getting swine flu, they'll stay in, not go shopping and maybe not go to work if anyone there is diagnosed with it. More economic woes. More work for couriers with all that i/net shopping maybe?

Anybody got data on how the flu epidemic of 1968 (Hog Kong flu) impacted the economy? We aren't talking 1918 effect, even if there were data. There will NOT a be million dead.

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I disagree, it's much simpler than that;

1. It's a panic story, which the media and government love nowadays.

2. It's good excuse/distraction for economic decline.

We're like panic junkies, can't wait for the next one.

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My heart sank when I read this post.

Its this type of codswallop that discredits the whole site and makes its members appear as a shower of foolish comspiracy theorists.

Shame on you.

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Was reading your post just now, and after seeing your ignorant and uninformed drivel, I got to thinking maybe you shouldn't post any more.

Pot kettle hue comparison methinks ;)

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I have to admit that I distrust this government so deeply that the swine flu stuff has consistently made me think "What's in it for them".

Maybe I've been listening to too much Alex Jones.

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My heart sank when I read this post.

Its this type of codswallop that discredits the whole site and makes its members appear as a shower of foolish comspiracy theorists.

Shame on you.

Should have put, all IMO.

I still think this is a valid point of view, whether ill informed or not, beacuse all I have to go on is what I watch on the news and read in the papers, as do most of the population.

I'm not a doctor or scientist, so am pretty ignorant about these issues. Will we see 60,000 or more dead?? Is this outbreak any worse than a normal winter outbreak??

What are the real facts about Swine Flu??

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My grandma has been told she has got swine flu. She was feeling ill and rang NHS direct. A nurse asked her to describe her symptoms, upon which she was told it was swine flu and the next day a course of tamiflu arrived through the post.

I am in Jordan at the moment, 33 cases of swine flu have been confirmed in the kingdom and the governmant has just spent 80 million jd (69mGBP) on Tamiflu!!

Donald Rumsfeld is a major shareholder in the company that makes Tamiflu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oseltamivir#U...and_oseltamivir

Make of that what you will.

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Should have put, all IMO.

I still think this is a valid point of view, whether ill informed or not, beacuse all I have to go on is what I watch on the news and read in the papers, as do most of the population.

I'm not a doctor or scientist, so am pretty ignorant about these issues. Will we see 60,000 or more dead?? Is this outbreak any worse than a normal winter outbreak??

What are the real fact about Swine Flu??

The media reports in a most unpredictable and unballanced manner. There may well be 60000 dead, there may not. The media puts it in a headline and weights it however they think it will have most headline impact.

Its a conspiracy to sell newspapers, not distract the population and get them spending or anything else.

Perhaps obama killed jackson to distract the public?

Its just depressing to read such utter drivel.

IMO.

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I have to admit that I distrust this government so deeply that the swine flu stuff has consistently made me think "What's in it for them".

nes.

Me too, it does make me wonder when I hear so much about the global depopulation agenda of the Illuminati.

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Its a conspiracy to sell newspapers, not distract the population and get them spending or anything else.

Its just depressing to read such utter drivel.

IMO.

I agree,

Stop posting such drivel, please.

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The media reports in a most unpredictable and unballanced manner. There may well be 60000 dead, there may not. The media puts it in a headline and weights it however they think it will have most headline impact.

Its a conspiracy to sell newspapers, not distract the population and get them spending or anything else.

Perhaps obama killed jackson to distract the public?

Its just depressing to read such utter drivel.

IMO.

Is it not true, that when people feel frightened about the future, they live more "in the moment" rather than planning ahead?

"Living in the moment" in 2009 means spending, IMO.

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I disagree, it's much simpler than that;

1. It's a panic story, which the media and government love nowadays.

2. It's good excuse/distraction for economic decline.

We're like panic junkies, can't wait for the next one.

Everything is a panic story in the press. You have to look through the hyperbole and yes, there is a story here. There is a new strain of flu the like of which hasn't done the rounds since 1918. Its not particularly lethal but it is very contagious and there is almost no immunity in the community - so a lot of people are going to get it. This means that if it is equally as lethal as 'normal' flu, there will still be many times the impact. Added to this is the fact that the mortality profile is very different to 'normal' flu, in that deaths are not concentrated in the old - most have been in the under 65's versus the very high majority in 'normal' flu cases being the opposite.

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I have to admit that I distrust this government so deeply that the swine flu stuff has consistently made me think "What's in it for them".

Maybe I've been listening to too much Alex Jones.

I have to agree. My distrust of this government is so deep that my immediate reaction to pretty much any news item is, as you say, "What's in it for them".

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I have to agree. My distrust of this government is so deep that my immediate reaction to pretty much any news item is, as you say, "What's in it for them".

Dont let the mistrust cloud your judgement though. Just stop watching the tv and dont read the papers. The papers are full of shit. The tv is a torrent of crap and the news is appauling. I ditched my tv years ago and when I see news programs now im amazed at how poor and sensationalist they are.

Dont worry about the government conspiracy, save your energy for improving your own situation and deal with the problems which actually exist!

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I disagree, it's much simpler than that;

1. It's a panic story, which the media and government love nowadays.

2. It's good excuse/distraction for economic decline.

We're like panic junkies, can't wait for the next one.

In fact, from what I can gather, the government is slowly going into panic mode over this because it thinks it could become a repeat of the 1918 flu; mild at first, then deadly.

Since it's such a mild flu at present, and the government reaction is so strong, I simply took the trouble to find out, rather than merely consulting my own wallet for all my opinions.

The government might turn out to be wrong, but be in no doubt that the fear is real.

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Is it not true, that when people feel frightened about the future, they live more "in the moment" rather than planning ahead?

"Living in the moment" in 2009 means spending, IMO.

When they are actually dying yes. But humans also are pretty interested in self preservation when there is a scare. So the best thing they could do is stay at home in quarantine, not go shopping or go to work or socialise.

If it is a conspiracy to boost GDP is it a really, really stupid one.

I'm with the poster above. Its a conspiracy for the media to sell papers and advertising space on airtime.

Having just finished badscience, I'm not sure I can trust a media scare ever again.

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Dont let the mistrust cloud your judgement though. Just stop watching the tv and dont read the papers. The papers are full of shit. The tv is a torrent of crap and the news is appauling. I ditched my tv years ago and when I see news programs now im amazed at how poor and sensationalist they are.

Dont worry about the government conspiracy, save your energy for improving your own situation and deal with the problems which actually exist!

Actually, for the last couple of years, I've tended to watch the news carefully to ascertain what Gordon Brown wants me to do, I then do the opposite and more often than not it turns out to be a good course of action.

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I dunno. I wasn't convinced swine flu was real the other day whilst I was at work (invented by the government to scare etc... typical tin-foil hat type theory)

I seem to be coming down with something, but it is being painfully slow... :ph34r:

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I'm with the poster above. Its a conspiracy for the media to sell papers and advertising space on airtime.

Yes that's right,

Wall street big wigs incubated a virus and went to Mexico to infect a few people, hoping it would spread around the world, eventually getting to the uk so that they could sell a few extra editions.

Makes perfect sense.

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Everything is a panic story in the press. You have to look through the hyperbole and yes, there is a story here.

So why don't they announce normal winter flu deaths?

Same story - and ok if you're old you might be at risk - but in terms of deaths if it's going to be the same doesn't it just show how little we care about elderly deaths? [Although showing deaths might increase flu jab takeup]

It's like disasters abroad - if there's not a british person amonsgt the dead, we don't see it for more than a few seconds on the bbc.

Each Media decides what we see, so you have to decide what media to watch.

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