@contradevian Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 And if you wanted to maintain a 70's standard of living, l think you could do so and still have a substantial amount of leisure time. We were not exactly living in caves in the 70's. Same as now, only less gadgets and no internet, and you waited months to get a phone from the Post Office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamborn Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 The working pensioners will have to support the young who can't find work, because the pensioners have all the jobs. Great idea. Actually, the young will probably just leave to places like Australia and Canada where they have a chance of a decent life. This country will just stink of piss, like one big care home of people living in houses that they won't sell for less than they are "worth". Indeed.What this really means is this.We have 5 million+ people of working age who refuse to work and live on benefits.The people who do work to pay for this must be kept working as long as possible. Anyone working MUST make provision for themselves to escape this madness.I dont know anyone who wouldnt retire tomorrow if they could afford it.Not one.Havent the government figured out that if you didnt pay out to 5 million working age people,the pension issue isnt an issue.The problem is,no government has the guts to do it. Its nothing more than getting in place a position where they can move state pension age higher and higher.3 kids at 20?.There you go £300 a week and "retired".Work 40+ years,sorry you need to wait longer for your £97 a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormymonday_2011 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Indeed.What this really means is this.We have 5 million+ people of working age who refuse to work and live on benefits.The people who do work to pay for this must be kept working as long as possible.Anyone working MUST make provision for themselves to escape this madness.I dont know anyone who wouldnt retire tomorrow if they could afford it.Not one.Havent the government figured out that if you didnt pay out to 5 million working age people,the pension issue isnt an issue.The problem is,no government has the guts to do it. Its nothing more than getting in place a position where they can move state pension age higher and higher.3 kids at 20?.There you go £300 a week and "retired".Work 40+ years,sorry you need to wait longer for your £97 a week. Ooh you can't mention this fact. It does not compute with the generational conflict that the state and the media are so keen to peddle and so many idiots on this site are so keen to lap up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa3 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Epic fail.. more old people working is just going to mean even more horrific unemployment for the young. Its not like there is a bunch of industries out there trying to expand but unable to because they can't find enough workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cells Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Do you work in law? Is he a judge? no and no this was R&D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinzano Bianco Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 This problem can be solved by tackling the other end of the labour market, with no minimum age of employment. Small children sent down the mines wont live past 30, and just think of all the extra coal those little hands could harvest.If life is going to be about working until you die you might as well get it over quick. I enjoyed this post. Humour of the highest quality Lord. That said, it is almost 01:00 and I am still f'ing working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopGun Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) Indeed.What this really means is this.We have 5 million+ people of working age who refuse to work and live on benefits.The people who do work to pay for this must be kept working as long as possible.Anyone working MUST make provision for themselves to escape this madness.I dont know anyone who wouldnt retire tomorrow if they could afford it.Not one.Havent the government figured out that if you didnt pay out to 5 million working age people,the pension issue isnt an issue.The problem is,no government has the guts to do it. Its nothing more than getting in place a position where they can move state pension age higher and higher.3 kids at 20?.There you go £300 a week and "retired".Work 40+ years,sorry you need to wait longer for your £97 a week. The solution is simple.....once you reach say 50-55 develop a 'disability'! No seriously if your mortgage is paid off, you'd never have to work again!! That or make sure you die of Obesity/Swine Flu/SARS/Serosis/AIDS/Cancer/Hypothermia/CJD/MRSA (etc etc) before you reach 60!! If the media can't scare you about staying alive, they'll scare you about how you'll die instead! Edited July 14, 2009 by PopGun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve99 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) I think someone should have to work until a majority of their colleagues agree that they stink of piss. Thats around 40 years old these days. The working pensioners will have to support the young who can't find work, because the pensioners have all the jobs. Great idea. Actually, the young will probably just leave to places like Australia and Canada where they have a chance of a decent life. This country will just stink of piss, like one big care home of people living in houses that they won't sell for less than they are "worth". No difference, Aus has higher proportional house prices now, No jobs vacancies to speak off, increasing unemployment, heaps of hidden unemployment and stronger anti ageist laws than UK where they have never been tested in many situations (all they have to do in the UK is keep the odd old c**t (over 40 that is) on the books and they look sweet in the eye of the law) Oh and due to the increasing unemployment in Aus/NZ they definitly dont want filthy poms coming over to steal there jobs, which is something they will without any hessitation let you know and in stronger language than that if you are a tradesman applying for a job on a building site for eg. Edited July 14, 2009 by steve99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babesagainstmachines Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Indeed.What this really means is this.We have 5 million+ people of working age who refuse to work and live on benefits.The people who do work to pay for this must be kept working as long as possible. I am pretty sure there isn't anything like 5 million job vacancies. Maybe a million tops, and mostly crap jobs. Wether they refuse to work or can't work is largely irrelevant because there isn't enough work needs doing. Making people work longer will just increase youth unemployment, or require even more people waste 3 years building up a pile of debt at polyversity. Then they'll need to work until there 70 to pay off their debts, buy a house and save some money to retire... going round in circles... They should lower the retirement age 55 then there would be plenty of jobs for the young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 This is good. At the moment, come 65 your employer can tell you to b*gger off with no come back and if you still need to work for a living it's sweeping the floor at B&Q for you. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopGun Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 They should lower the retirement age 55 then there would be plenty of jobs for the young That would actually be a good idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) so the old have to continue working to support themselves and not drain the system. The more older people remain in employement then the less jobs there are available for the younger generation. vicious cycle starts here. Compounded by an ageing population. Or will the pig flu solve some issues Edited July 14, 2009 by richyc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I wonder how many will continue to work because they can't afford the one off payment at retirement for future care should it come in? Feck this country, invest in your children because no one else is going to be there for you when you get old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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