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Well, I'm listening to Woodie Guthrie at the moment so I must contextualise things.

Anyway I expect a long decay, mainly a slow grind down, with a few sudden drops over the next 10 years.

I am hoping to keep my job for as long as possible and then get ready to become a hobo if necessary.

Am I being too pessimistic?

What do other people think?

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Well, I'm listening to Woodie Guthrie at the moment so I must contextualise things.

Anyway I expect a long decay, mainly a slow grind down, with a few sudden drops over the next 10 years.

I am hoping to keep my job for as long as possible and then get ready to become a hobo if necessary.

Am I being too pessimistic?

What do other people think?

Just as long as I'm not the littlest hobo.

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Well, I'm listening to Woodie Guthrie at the moment so I must contextualise things.

Anyway I expect a long decay, mainly a slow grind down, with a few sudden drops over the next 10 years.

I am hoping to keep my job for as long as possible and then get ready to become a hobo if necessary.

Am I being too pessimistic?

What do other people think?

Just get into practise running for the trains...

Why Hobo...no roof over your head ? (genuinely interested..)

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Just get into practise running for the trains...

Why Hobo...no roof over your head ? (genuinely interested..)

Well I was just thinking of planning for the worst.

Keep my job as long as possible, keep saving then if I lose my job and jobs are impossible to come by I will have to go from house to house offering to chop wood for a meal.

If that happens I will also move somewhere that is warm enough year round so I don't freeze to death. Or maybe move to the forest and grow my own food.

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Well, I'm listening to Woodie Guthrie at the moment so I must contextualise things.

Anyway I expect a long decay, mainly a slow grind down, with a few sudden drops over the next 10 years.

I am hoping to keep my job for as long as possible and then get ready to become a hobo if necessary.

Am I being too pessimistic?

What do other people think?

I think you're being too pessimistic, by a long shot.

We'd be a stagnant socialist state before it got to that.

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I think you're being too pessimistic, by a long shot.

We'd be a stagnant socialist state before it got to that.

Agreed and id prefer living in a tent eating road kill to much more socialism.

I think most people could survive quite well on much lower incomes if the state would get out of the way.

The state takes most ordinary workers income anyway.

There is a tiny chance we might come out of this well,if we consign socialism to the dustbin forever.Mostly the British enjoy trading and making money.If we could decimate government and all its tax and regulations we might end up the richest nation on the planet.

Its the growing state we should be most worried about,because the bigger the state,the bigger the loss of freedom and threat of violence.

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Just get into practise running for the trains...

Why Hobo...no roof over your head ? (genuinely interested..)

I take it you've seen the film "Emperor of The North" with Lee Marvin. If not i recommend it to the thread.

Synopsis: It is during the great depression in the US, and the land is full of people who are now homeless. Those people, commonly called "hobos", are truly hated by Shack (Borgnine), a sadistical railway conductor who swore that no hobo will ride his train for free. Well, no-one but "A" Number One (Lee Marvin), who is ready to put his life at stake to become a local legend - as the first person who survived the trip on Shack's notorious train.

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Well, I'm listening to Woodie Guthrie at the moment ...

I just named our son Arlo!

At the end of the day our current standard of living is so ridiculously high I think there is an awful long way down before (I at least) start to panic. When the unemployable refuse to wear non-brand name trainers, drive cars and have mobile phones you realise that maybe the economy can take a pretty big hit.

Hell, if GDP halved all it'd mean is people would have to get things fixed or take them back to the shop when they break after a week.

Bit like the way I was brought up in the 80s!

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Well, I'm listening to Woodie Guthrie at the moment so I must contextualise things.

Anyway I expect a long decay, mainly a slow grind down, with a few sudden drops over the next 10 years.

I am hoping to keep my job for as long as possible and then get ready to become a hobo if necessary.

Am I being too pessimistic?

What do other people think?

If you are a hobo then by definition that must mean that there are not hoboes. In that case it is better to not be a hobo and the best way to achieve that is by lying, cheating and stealing at every opportunity.

I reckon `Riviera` Ray Woolley had a good idea (except for the ridiculous expenditures on Bentleys and not running to Brazil to escape the long tentacle of the law!) :rolleyes:

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I take it you've seen the film "Emperor of The North" with Lee Marvin. If not i recommend it to the thread.

Synopsis: It is during the great depression in the US, and the land is full of people who are now homeless. Those people, commonly called "hobos", are truly hated by Shack (Borgnine), a sadistical railway conductor who swore that no hobo will ride his train for free. Well, no-one but "A" Number One (Lee Marvin), who is ready to put his life at stake to become a local legend - as the first person who survived the trip on Shack's notorious train.

That is an awesome film.

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Stock up on caffeine tablets as you'll need to make your blood pressure reading way too high for them to conscript you.

I once was in the postion of getting no wages and no dole because I was 'on strike'. I hadn't even started work at the place lol.

I was living rough and started travelling with an old tramp. Although he was using my money to make his life a bit easier, what I had was going much further thanks to his street skills than I would have managed alone.

After about a week he says to me 'This is a grand life you know son' and was trying to sell me on it. tbh, I could see his point a little, there is something about being free as air.

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I was living rough and started travelling with an old tramp.

After about a week he says to me 'This is a grand life you know son'

And it was just after this it started snowing...

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Well, I'm listening to Woodie Guthrie at the moment so I must contextualise things.

Anyway I expect a long decay, mainly a slow grind down, with a few sudden drops over the next 10 years.

I am hoping to keep my job for as long as possible and then get ready to become a hobo if necessary.

Am I being too pessimistic?

What do other people think?

I think that this land is my land and it's time to fight against hobophobia.

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I believe it will get very bad indeed in the US: tent cities, mad max in city centres.

In the UK, I'm expecting a quarter of the middle class to be beggared (when one loses their job, they both lose the house), 1 in 3 government employees to be sacked, maybe fighting on the streets if the Tories get uppity. Socially, it's pretty cohesive, so it should remain peaceful as long as everyone gets fed. If they don't, it won't be.

That's just my view.

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I just named our son Arlo!

At the end of the day our current standard of living is so ridiculously high I think there is an awful long way down before (I at least) start to panic. When the unemployable refuse to wear non-brand name trainers, drive cars and have mobile phones you realise that maybe the economy can take a pretty big hit.

Hell, if GDP halved all it'd mean is people would have to get things fixed or take them back to the shop when they break after a week.

Bit like the way I was brought up in the 80s!

Didn't Arlo write an uplifting little song about not having the change necessary to inform a friend that one was about to commit suicide?

p-o-p

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I believe it will get very bad indeed in the US: tent cities, mad max in city centres.

In the UK, I'm expecting a quarter of the middle class to be beggared (when one loses their job, they both lose the house), 1 in 3 government employees to be sacked, maybe fighting on the streets if the Tories get uppity. Socially, it's pretty cohesive, so it should remain peaceful as long as everyone gets fed. If they don't, it won't be.

That's just my view.

I think your very correct about the US regarding tent cities and we will see shopping malls empty and go bust. They changed the rules on claiming unemployment a good few years ago, you can only claim for 5 years max in your life time! The US is a very hard country to live in with no funds.

A lot depends on who is in government with riots, if the Tories are in then we will see them for sure, I don't think people will riot if Labour are in power. I think the die is set for any recovery, I don't think it matters who is in power. I think we will get a slow downward slide from here now, probably lasting 6 to 10 years or more. It's certainly going to put a stop to showing off any wealth anyone has. A lot of wealth has been and will be lost, the banks will not be lending for many a year, they understand only too well the state of the economy. They will ramp up what suits them but not be giving out life belts. I think public jobs will be cut by 20% - 25% and property prices fall by 40% - 50% from peak depending on the area.

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Socially, it's pretty cohesive, so it should remain peaceful as long as everyone gets fed. If they don't, it won't be.

That's just my view.

To quote myself

To go all Richard Dawkins for a minute, genetically all we need to do is survive and reproduce. Historically only when the food runs out do the riots kick off.

So I agree with you.

And what's more i don't think it will run out. Our standards of living are ridiculously high when compared to history and the rest of the world. They have to come down a bit, but not that far.

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I take it you've seen the film "Emperor of The North" with Lee Marvin. If not i recommend it to the thread.

Synopsis: It is during the great depression in the US, and the land is full of people who are now homeless. Those people, commonly called "hobos", are truly hated by Shack (Borgnine), a sadistical railway conductor who swore that no hobo will ride his train for free. Well, no-one but "A" Number One (Lee Marvin), who is ready to put his life at stake to become a local legend - as the first person who survived the trip on Shack's notorious train.

+1

trailer

:lol:

I've mentioned it before, but this

in Nyc tunnels seems increasingly likely and warmer / cooler.

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Well I was just thinking of planning for the worst.

Keep my job as long as possible, keep saving then if I lose my job and jobs are impossible to come by I will have to go from house to house offering to chop wood for a meal.

If that happens I will also move somewhere that is warm enough year round so I don't freeze to death. Or maybe move to the forest and grow my own food.

You might be better off going house to house offering wood in exchange for a meal and a bed for the night.

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